Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
You like Holland or Hubberd better?
Holland.
But Ogbonnia Okoronkwo is bae right now.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 26, 2018 at 5:10 PM ]
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Jeff Holland, EDGE, Auburn
Jan 26, 2018 at 5:08 PM
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Holland.
But Ogbonnia Okoronkwo is bae right now.
Jan 26, 2018 at 6:16 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:You like Holland or Hubberd better?
Holland.
But Ogbonnia Okoronkwo is bae right now.
Is he considered a first round lock?
Jan 26, 2018 at 8:16 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Is he considered a first round lock?
No. I still say 3rd round....maybe later 2nd
Jan 27, 2018 at 8:59 AM
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I like this kid. Real solid 2nd, early 3rd rd prospect/target
Feb 12, 2018 at 8:39 PM
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I wonder if Holland is one of those "tough guys" that doesn't put much time in the weight room. I remember playing with dudes like that in JC that didn't believe in the weight room.
It's a little disconcerting. Dude barely looks like an athlete on his social media. I think the combine could kill his stock. He might bench 225 five times lol.
It's a little disconcerting. Dude barely looks like an athlete on his social media. I think the combine could kill his stock. He might bench 225 five times lol.
Feb 12, 2018 at 8:50 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:I wonder if Holland is one of those "tough guys" that doesn't put much time in the weight room. I remember playing with dudes like that in JC that didn't believe in the weight room.
It's a little disconcerting. Dude barely looks like an athlete on his social media. I think the combine could kill his stock. He might bench 225 five times lol.
If it drops him to the 4th, I'll take him and all 5 of his reps hahha. From what I've read of his character, though, he seems like a guy to put in the work to perfect his craft.
Feb 12, 2018 at 8:53 PM
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
If it drops him to the 4th, I'll take him and all 5 of his reps hahha. From what I've read of his character, though, he seems like a guy to put in the work to perfect his craft.
s**t, me too.
But I can't help but think how much more of a monster he would be if he was a tank like Lawson.
Holland has a ton of room for physical development.BTW, I'm not insinuating he's lazy. Some football players genuinely believe the weight room is a waste of time. What I know for certain from watching all his games is that Holland is a junkyard dog on the field.
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Feb 12, 2018 at 9:17 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:s**t, me too.
But I can't help but think how much more of a monster he would be if he was a tank like Lawson.
BTW, I'm not insinuating he's lazy. Some football players genuinely believe the weight room is a waste of time.
Was speaking more towards at the next level; if the coaches tell him he needs to get in the weight room, I'm sure he will, regardless of his training regimine in college.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Feb 12, 2018 at 9:17 PM ]
Feb 12, 2018 at 9:19 PM
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Was speaking more towards at the next level; if the coaches tell him he needs to get in the weight room, I'm sure he will, regardless of his training regimine in college.
Agreed, agreed.
Since it feels unlikely they grab an edge rusher in the first round, Holland would give them great value in the 3rd, possibly 4th. Come on, Lynch.
Feb 12, 2018 at 10:10 PM
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Speak of the devil 
Jeff Holland is going to be one of this draft's biggest steals in the Day 2-mid round range. pic.twitter.com/NjqHtgPSkJ
— Jonah Tuls (@JonahTulsNFL) February 13, 2018
Feb 17, 2018 at 8:49 AM
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The smart ones know.
Jeff Holland (left edge) is super intriguing. Not crazy bendy or explosive, but still good at capturing the edge. Twists his torso, varies his stride length, terrific stab/swipe move. One of my fave day 2 edges pic.twitter.com/elJUPXd4D6
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Feb 17, 2018 at 9:01 AM
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This edge class is pretty meh. Chubb and Landry are the top 2 atm for me. Then there is a huge drop off.
Feb 17, 2018 at 9:44 AM
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Originally posted by Dillesq:This edge class is pretty meh. Chubb and Landry are the top 2 atm for me. Then there is a huge drop off.
Quite a few flash good to elite traits, but I agree not many have put it all together yet
Feb 17, 2018 at 4:56 PM
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Jeff Holland's narrow stance is so strange. Puts his outside foot almost directly behind his inside foot. Consistently wobbling in his stance before the snap. Hurts his first step. pic.twitter.com/wGVqWtjefg
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Feb 18, 2018 at 9:14 AM
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Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
Jeff Holland's narrow stance is so strange. Puts his outside foot almost directly behind his inside foot. Consistently wobbling in his stance before the snap. Hurts his first step. pic.twitter.com/wGVqWtjefg
— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) February 17, 2018
That's funky but an easy fix for an NFL DL coach to get those feet shoulder-width apart.
Not only will that improve his get off, but it will unlock his hips and allow him to gain more ground with his steps.
[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 18, 2018 at 9:14 AM ]