Joshua Jackson CB/Iowa

Sounds like a smart, workaholic who is also super athletic and a former WR. Sounds like Sherman to me. Jackson is a tad bit shorter but I think he's the faster of the two.

Perfect scheme fit. Sign me up 😊 I'd love him or Nelson.

On a separate note. I don't get the excitement for Roquan over Nelson. If you're going for a "non-premier" position.. Nelson looks to be the obvious generational talent of the two.

Originally posted by Wewillwin:

Sounds like a smart, workaholic who is also super athletic and a former WR. Sounds like Sherman to me. Jackson is a tad bit shorter but I think he's the faster of the two.

Perfect scheme fit. Sign me up 😊 I'd love him or Nelson.

On a separate note. I don't get the excitement for Roquan over Nelson. If you're going for a "non-premier" position.. Nelson looks to be the obvious generational talent of the two.

Well with Leonard showing real talent and promise in the 2nd round at LB, I would be fine drafting Nelson if we can land Leonard with our next pick.

For me it's more about winning the SB next year and MLB is a more important non-premier position, not to mention Foster going Aldon and leaving us with nothing at LB. We fixed the 1st and 2nd down D last year with Foster and D line, and that suffers again this year unless we can replace Foster's talent. That is independent of our woefully poor 3rd down D which is fixed with another legit CB and pass rusher.

Jimmy made us a top 5 Offense even with the mediocre talent on O, so the D needs to be fixed ASAP for us to be real contenders, meaning a starting CB, two starting LBs, and a pass rusher. If we had those already we have a top 10 or even top 5 D, and would have the luxury of drafting Nelson so high.

Either way, if Nelson is by far BPA on Shanalynch's board and is there at 9/10, by all means draft him. I want a defensive player like Roquan/Jackson/Ward or a trade back into the 20s for Evans, but Nelson is a beast and I won't be mad if we draft him.

Also with the Shanahan comment about needing talent on D and less of it on O, well the 1st round of the draft is a great place to acquire that defensive talent.

Saw this tweet about Jackson.

Best off zone corner I've seen in recent years.. great at reading concepts and jumping routes from zone... but extremely raw in man.. off or press.. there are several press man corners I'd take over him.. even some that won't go until rounds 3-5

I still think his potential is worth the pick early but it does show the reason I'm higher on Ward at this point.

I'm assuming we sign at least one top corner in FA so that would at least on paper give us 3 starters with FA, Spoon and Williams at slot corner so taking Jackson and letting him develop wouldn't be a bad move but I think I'd rather go with Ward. Let him compete with Williams for slot duties and if he shows up big time can take the outside job in time.

Originally posted by genus49:
Man I wish Ward was a couple of inches taller...but then again he wouldn't be available if he was when we pick.

The more I watch him the more I like him over Jackson. Jackson is very talented too but IMO has more work to do as a cover guy. Bites on a lot which is typical with ballhawk players who take risks.

Gun to my head I'm taking Ward but would be happy with either.

I just wouldnt pass on Ward because of 2 inches if the team clearly likes his skills better. We have a tall rangy guy already so I dont think its critical that we draft another tall corner.

I think Nelson and Chubb will be gone so my hope is the Niners take one of the top 2 premier corners.

Barkley, Chubb, Nelson and 4 QBs likely gone in the top 10. Our pick will probably come down to Minkah, Jackson, Roquan, Ward.

I'd count Minkah as being gone next. That leaves Jackson, Roquan, Ward. Since the raiders are probably taking a CB or LB, we take what they don't if they win the toss. If they take a Roquan, we take Jackson or Ward. If they take Jackson or Ward, we take Roquan.

I'd prefer Jackson over Minkah. I hope someone drafts the latter before we pick. I just don't see Minkah as an elite outside CB, even though he is an excellent player in general.

If we get a legit CB in FA, it really opens the doors to trading back in the 1st. If no starting CB in FA it almost assures Jackson/Ward in the 1st. That seems to be the situation Shanalynch doesn't want to be in, so I'd expect a free agent CB. If we only get a guy like Vontae Davis in FA, it could signal they really like Jackson and Ward and are prepared to take one of them at 9/10. If we get a guy like Fuller/Melvin/Johnson, we may be looking to trade back if we can or draft Roquan or Nelson at 9/10.

Just no Davenport or Edmunds at 9/10.

Originally posted by genus49:

Saw this tweet about Jackson.

Best off zone corner I've seen in recent years.. great at reading concepts and jumping routes from zone... but extremely raw in man.. off or press.. there are several press man corners I'd take over him.. even some that won't go until rounds 3-5

I still think his potential is worth the pick early but it does show the reason I'm higher on Ward at this point.

I'm assuming we sign at least one top corner in FA so that would at least on paper give us 3 starters with FA, Spoon and Williams at slot corner so taking Jackson and letting him develop wouldn't be a bad move but I think I'd rather go with Ward. Let him compete with Williams for slot duties and if he shows up big time can take the outside job in time.

Not sure who tweeted that, but that's why I'm apparently a LOT lower on Jackson than most here. I think a lot of people who haven't necessarily studied him have him hyped up because of the number of interceptions.

No one was really talking about him until his first multiple interception game. He definitely excells at what our DC PRIMARILY asks our corners to do, but I can't shake my feeling that a top ten pick and CB1 needs to at least have some ability in man coverage and be able to be left on an island at times.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Barkley, Chubb, Nelson and 4 QBs likely gone in the top 10. Our pick will probably come down to Minkah, Jackson, Roquan, Ward.

I'd count Minkah as being gone next. That leaves Jackson, Roquan, Ward. Since the raiders are probably taking a CB or LB, we take what they don't if they win the toss. If they take a Roquan, we take Jackson or Ward. If they take Jackson or Ward, we take Roquan.

This is EXACTLY how I see it going down.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by Wewillwin:

Sounds like a smart, workaholic who is also super athletic and a former WR. Sounds like Sherman to me. Jackson is a tad bit shorter but I think he's the faster of the two.

Perfect scheme fit. Sign me up 😊 I'd love him or Nelson.

On a separate note. I don't get the excitement for Roquan over Nelson. If you're going for a "non-premier" position.. Nelson looks to be the obvious generational talent of the two.

Well with Leonard showing real talent and promise in the 2nd round at LB, I would be fine drafting Nelson if we can land Leonard with our next pick.

For me it's more about winning the SB next year and MLB is a more important non-premier position, not to mention Foster going Aldon and leaving us with nothing at LB. We fixed the 1st and 2nd down D last year with Foster and D line, and that suffers again this year unless we can replace Foster's talent. That is independent of our woefully poor 3rd down D which is fixed with another legit CB and pass rusher.

Jimmy made us a top 5 Offense even with the mediocre talent on O, so the D needs to be fixed ASAP for us to be real contenders, meaning a starting CB, two starting LBs, and a pass rusher. If we had those already we have a top 10 or even top 5 D, and would have the luxury of drafting Nelson so high.

Either way, if Nelson is by far BPA on Shanalynch's board and is there at 9/10, by all means draft him. I want a defensive player like Roquan/Jackson/Ward or a trade back into the 20s for Evans, but Nelson is a beast and I won't be mad if we draft him.

Also with the Shanahan comment about needing talent on D and less of it on O, well the 1st round of the draft is a great place to acquire that defensive talent.

Hm. I understand what you're saying in regards to building our defense but we're not cutting Foster and a stop-gap ILB for 6-10 games isn't too hard to find. I'd also argue that solid guards are typically much more expensive in FA and quickly becoming the more "premier" of the two positions.

I'm curious - which Shanahan comment are you referring to?

I agree on going defense if it's BPA but our interior OL is also a HUGE need and a bigger one than ILB in my opinion. Jimmy took some serious shots last year and the run game suffered greatly due to our interior.

Drafting someone who looks like a sure-fire All-Pro there, by all accounts a generational talent, makes much more sense to me. Better player.. more premier position.. bigger need..

Crabbs | CB Joshua Jackson's route recognition and anticipation

Iowa CB Joshua Jackson had one of the most productive seasons of any defensive back in the country. The 2018 early entry into the NFL Draft, Jackson tallied 8 interceptions and an additional 16 passes defensed throughout the 2017 college football season.
The first question I was asked in going through my film studies of Jackson over the weekend was "does it concern you that Jackson was only a one year starter?" No, it does not. Here is why:

– Jackson stepped onto the field and yielded top tier production
– Jackson's game illustrates blue chip qualities and traits desired to have success at the NFL level
– There have been plenty of examples (Mitch Trubisky, Marshon Lattimore in 2017 alone) of one year starters stepping into the NFL and having success. (There's a debate here to be had about Trubisky's success in 2017 but you won't have it with me, the man was throwing to hardly anyone for a vast majority of the year).

Below is a prime example of the kind of mental processing and route recognition skills that will make Jackson a valuable defender in the NFL.

Great football players have the flexibility to understand sometimes you have to break the rules. Jackson abandons deep third thanks to blue chip anticipation and understanding of game situation for an INT. (Sound on) pic.twitter.com/CJz7HWLMvl

— Kyle Crabbs (@NDTScouting) February 10, 2018

This is not the play you'll find from many one year starters. Jackson illustrates awesome situational awareness, route recognition skills, anticipation and trust in his Safety to jump down hard and take away this corner route vs. Ohio State.

How does this play come to life? Preparation, football intelligence and flexibility. Preparation and football intelligence are easy to see here, but where does flexibility come into play? Jackson buzzes out into space at the snap to get depth initially, but shows great mobility in his hips to keep his shoulders and eyes aligned into the backfield. When Jackson sees QB J.T. Barrett cock his arm to throw the ball, there's no wasted movement from Joshua Jackson to sit and attack the route working towards the boundary at the first down marker.

There's too much polish and technical refinement from Jackson as a Cover 3 defender to dismiss under the veil of a one year starter.

Jackson isn't a one size fits all prospect, but a team with rangy Safeties and a lot of Cover 3 zone coverage would be well rewarded for targeting Joshua Jackson in the 1st-round, regardless of how many game's he's started in his career.

Hey, that's us.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Crabbs | CB Joshua Jackson's route recognition and anticipation

Iowa CB Joshua Jackson had one of the most productive seasons of any defensive back in the country. The 2018 early entry into the NFL Draft, Jackson tallied 8 interceptions and an additional 16 passes defensed throughout the 2017 college football season.
The first question I was asked in going through my film studies of Jackson over the weekend was "does it concern you that Jackson was only a one year starter?" No, it does not. Here is why:

– Jackson stepped onto the field and yielded top tier production
– Jackson's game illustrates blue chip qualities and traits desired to have success at the NFL level
– There have been plenty of examples (Mitch Trubisky, Marshon Lattimore in 2017 alone) of one year starters stepping into the NFL and having success. (There's a debate here to be had about Trubisky's success in 2017 but you won't have it with me, the man was throwing to hardly anyone for a vast majority of the year).

Below is a prime example of the kind of mental processing and route recognition skills that will make Jackson a valuable defender in the NFL.

Great football players have the flexibility to understand sometimes you have to break the rules. Jackson abandons deep third thanks to blue chip anticipation and understanding of game situation for an INT. (Sound on) pic.twitter.com/CJz7HWLMvl

— Kyle Crabbs (@NDTScouting) February 10, 2018

This is not the play you'll find from many one year starters. Jackson illustrates awesome situational awareness, route recognition skills, anticipation and trust in his Safety to jump down hard and take away this corner route vs. Ohio State.

How does this play come to life? Preparation, football intelligence and flexibility. Preparation and football intelligence are easy to see here, but where does flexibility come into play? Jackson buzzes out into space at the snap to get depth initially, but shows great mobility in his hips to keep his shoulders and eyes aligned into the backfield. When Jackson sees QB J.T. Barrett cock his arm to throw the ball, there's no wasted movement from Joshua Jackson to sit and attack the route working towards the boundary at the first down marker.

There's too much polish and technical refinement from Jackson as a Cover 3 defender to dismiss under the veil of a one year starter.

Jackson isn't a one size fits all prospect, but a team with rangy Safeties and a lot of Cover 3 zone coverage would be well rewarded for targeting Joshua Jackson in the 1st-round, regardless of how many game's he's started in his career.

Hey, that's us.

Haha yup. Let's trade down to 15-17 which is good for a top 50 2nd give or take Then we can get our CB, pass rusher and OL with our top 3 picks then we still have two 3rds for a RB and LB.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Crabbs | CB Joshua Jackson's route recognition and anticipation

Iowa CB Joshua Jackson had one of the most productive seasons of any defensive back in the country. The 2018 early entry into the NFL Draft, Jackson tallied 8 interceptions and an additional 16 passes defensed throughout the 2017 college football season.
The first question I was asked in going through my film studies of Jackson over the weekend was "does it concern you that Jackson was only a one year starter?" No, it does not. Here is why:

– Jackson stepped onto the field and yielded top tier production
– Jackson's game illustrates blue chip qualities and traits desired to have success at the NFL level
– There have been plenty of examples (Mitch Trubisky, Marshon Lattimore in 2017 alone) of one year starters stepping into the NFL and having success. (There's a debate here to be had about Trubisky's success in 2017 but you won't have it with me, the man was throwing to hardly anyone for a vast majority of the year).

Below is a prime example of the kind of mental processing and route recognition skills that will make Jackson a valuable defender in the NFL.

Great football players have the flexibility to understand sometimes you have to break the rules. Jackson abandons deep third thanks to blue chip anticipation and understanding of game situation for an INT. (Sound on) pic.twitter.com/CJz7HWLMvl

— Kyle Crabbs (@NDTScouting) February 10, 2018

This is not the play you'll find from many one year starters. Jackson illustrates awesome situational awareness, route recognition skills, anticipation and trust in his Safety to jump down hard and take away this corner route vs. Ohio State.

How does this play come to life? Preparation, football intelligence and flexibility. Preparation and football intelligence are easy to see here, but where does flexibility come into play? Jackson buzzes out into space at the snap to get depth initially, but shows great mobility in his hips to keep his shoulders and eyes aligned into the backfield. When Jackson sees QB J.T. Barrett cock his arm to throw the ball, there's no wasted movement from Joshua Jackson to sit and attack the route working towards the boundary at the first down marker.

There's too much polish and technical refinement from Jackson as a Cover 3 defender to dismiss under the veil of a one year starter.

Jackson isn't a one size fits all prospect, but a team with rangy Safeties and a lot of Cover 3 zone coverage would be well rewarded for targeting Joshua Jackson in the 1st-round, regardless of how many game's he's started in his career.

Hey, that's us.

Haha yup. Let's trade down to 15-17 which is good for a top 50 2nd give or take Then we can get our CB, pass rusher and OL with our top 3 picks then we still have two 3rds for a RB and LB.

Man, I'm about to cream my pants on that Jackson breakdown.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Crabbs | CB Joshua Jackson's route recognition and anticipation

Iowa CB Joshua Jackson had one of the most productive seasons of any defensive back in the country. The 2018 early entry into the NFL Draft, Jackson tallied 8 interceptions and an additional 16 passes defensed throughout the 2017 college football season.
The first question I was asked in going through my film studies of Jackson over the weekend was "does it concern you that Jackson was only a one year starter?" No, it does not. Here is why:

– Jackson stepped onto the field and yielded top tier production
– Jackson's game illustrates blue chip qualities and traits desired to have success at the NFL level
– There have been plenty of examples (Mitch Trubisky, Marshon Lattimore in 2017 alone) of one year starters stepping into the NFL and having success. (There's a debate here to be had about Trubisky's success in 2017 but you won't have it with me, the man was throwing to hardly anyone for a vast majority of the year).

Below is a prime example of the kind of mental processing and route recognition skills that will make Jackson a valuable defender in the NFL.

Great football players have the flexibility to understand sometimes you have to break the rules. Jackson abandons deep third thanks to blue chip anticipation and understanding of game situation for an INT. (Sound on) pic.twitter.com/CJz7HWLMvl

— Kyle Crabbs (@NDTScouting) February 10, 2018

This is not the play you'll find from many one year starters. Jackson illustrates awesome situational awareness, route recognition skills, anticipation and trust in his Safety to jump down hard and take away this corner route vs. Ohio State.

How does this play come to life? Preparation, football intelligence and flexibility. Preparation and football intelligence are easy to see here, but where does flexibility come into play? Jackson buzzes out into space at the snap to get depth initially, but shows great mobility in his hips to keep his shoulders and eyes aligned into the backfield. When Jackson sees QB J.T. Barrett cock his arm to throw the ball, there's no wasted movement from Joshua Jackson to sit and attack the route working towards the boundary at the first down marker.

There's too much polish and technical refinement from Jackson as a Cover 3 defender to dismiss under the veil of a one year starter.

Jackson isn't a one size fits all prospect, but a team with rangy Safeties and a lot of Cover 3 zone coverage would be well rewarded for targeting Joshua Jackson in the 1st-round, regardless of how many game's he's started in his career.

Hey, that's us.

Haha yup. Let's trade down to 15-17 which is good for a top 50 2nd give or take Then we can get our CB, pass rusher and OL with our top 3 picks then we still have two 3rds for a RB and LB.

Man, I'm about to cream my pants on that Jackson breakdown.

Saleh did after reading it

Coverage sacks b***hes.

Remember, last year we were one of the top defenses for creating pressures but because of our size, one of the slowest to get there.

Lock down coverage and that may turn out to be the best pass rusher after all.

Works both ways...

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Crabbs | CB Joshua Jackson's route recognition and anticipation

Iowa CB Joshua Jackson had one of the most productive seasons of any defensive back in the country. The 2018 early entry into the NFL Draft, Jackson tallied 8 interceptions and an additional 16 passes defensed throughout the 2017 college football season.
The first question I was asked in going through my film studies of Jackson over the weekend was "does it concern you that Jackson was only a one year starter?" No, it does not. Here is why:

– Jackson stepped onto the field and yielded top tier production
– Jackson's game illustrates blue chip qualities and traits desired to have success at the NFL level
– There have been plenty of examples (Mitch Trubisky, Marshon Lattimore in 2017 alone) of one year starters stepping into the NFL and having success. (There's a debate here to be had about Trubisky's success in 2017 but you won't have it with me, the man was throwing to hardly anyone for a vast majority of the year).

Below is a prime example of the kind of mental processing and route recognition skills that will make Jackson a valuable defender in the NFL.

Great football players have the flexibility to understand sometimes you have to break the rules. Jackson abandons deep third thanks to blue chip anticipation and understanding of game situation for an INT. (Sound on) pic.twitter.com/CJz7HWLMvl

— Kyle Crabbs (@NDTScouting) February 10, 2018

This is not the play you'll find from many one year starters. Jackson illustrates awesome situational awareness, route recognition skills, anticipation and trust in his Safety to jump down hard and take away this corner route vs. Ohio State.

How does this play come to life? Preparation, football intelligence and flexibility. Preparation and football intelligence are easy to see here, but where does flexibility come into play? Jackson buzzes out into space at the snap to get depth initially, but shows great mobility in his hips to keep his shoulders and eyes aligned into the backfield. When Jackson sees QB J.T. Barrett cock his arm to throw the ball, there's no wasted movement from Joshua Jackson to sit and attack the route working towards the boundary at the first down marker.

There's too much polish and technical refinement from Jackson as a Cover 3 defender to dismiss under the veil of a one year starter.

Jackson isn't a one size fits all prospect, but a team with rangy Safeties and a lot of Cover 3 zone coverage would be well rewarded for targeting Joshua Jackson in the 1st-round, regardless of how many game's he's started in his career.

Hey, that's us.

Haha yup. Let's trade down to 15-17 which is good for a top 50 2nd give or take Then we can get our CB, pass rusher and OL with our top 3 picks then we still have two 3rds for a RB and LB.

If we could do all of that and still land Jackson at 15-17. WOO.