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Joshua Jackson CB/Iowa
Feb 26, 2018 at 11:46 PM
- mayo49
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I want this kid.
Feb 27, 2018 at 2:12 AM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NCommand:Coverage sacks b***hes.
Remember, last year we were one of the top defenses for creating pressures but because of our size, one of the slowest to get there.
Lock down coverage and that may turn out to be the best pass rusher after all.
Works both ways...
I still believe more in superior pass rush to setup and help the secondary, BUT sometimes if you have to compensate by having a stronger coverage group, then do what you gotta do
Originally posted by Furlow:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Originally posted by Heroism:Crabbs | CB Joshua Jackson's route recognition and anticipation
Iowa CB Joshua Jackson had one of the most productive seasons of any defensive back in the country. The 2018 early entry into the NFL Draft, Jackson tallied 8 interceptions and an additional 16 passes defensed throughout the 2017 college football season.
The first question I was asked in going through my film studies of Jackson over the weekend was "does it concern you that Jackson was only a one year starter?" No, it does not. Here is why:
– Jackson stepped onto the field and yielded top tier production
– Jackson's game illustrates blue chip qualities and traits desired to have success at the NFL level
– There have been plenty of examples (Mitch Trubisky, Marshon Lattimore in 2017 alone) of one year starters stepping into the NFL and having success. (There's a debate here to be had about Trubisky's success in 2017 but you won't have it with me, the man was throwing to hardly anyone for a vast majority of the year).
Below is a prime example of the kind of mental processing and route recognition skills that will make Jackson a valuable defender in the NFL.
Great football players have the flexibility to understand sometimes you have to break the rules. Jackson abandons deep third thanks to blue chip anticipation and understanding of game situation for an INT. (Sound on) pic.twitter.com/CJz7HWLMvl
— Kyle Crabbs (@NDTScouting) February 10, 2018
This is not the play you'll find from many one year starters. Jackson illustrates awesome situational awareness, route recognition skills, anticipation and trust in his Safety to jump down hard and take away this corner route vs. Ohio State.
How does this play come to life? Preparation, football intelligence and flexibility. Preparation and football intelligence are easy to see here, but where does flexibility come into play? Jackson buzzes out into space at the snap to get depth initially, but shows great mobility in his hips to keep his shoulders and eyes aligned into the backfield. When Jackson sees QB J.T. Barrett cock his arm to throw the ball, there's no wasted movement from Joshua Jackson to sit and attack the route working towards the boundary at the first down marker.
There's too much polish and technical refinement from Jackson as a Cover 3 defender to dismiss under the veil of a one year starter.
Jackson isn't a one size fits all prospect, but a team with rangy Safeties and a lot of Cover 3 zone coverage would be well rewarded for targeting Joshua Jackson in the 1st-round, regardless of how many game's he's started in his career.
Hey, that's us.
Haha yup. Let's trade down to 15-17 which is good for a top 50 2nd give or take Then we can get our CB, pass rusher and OL with our top 3 picks then we still have two 3rds for a RB and LB.
If we could do all of that and still land Jackson at 15-17. WOO.
It almost sounds perfect right? Good value across the board and perfectly attack needs based on strength of the draft
Feb 27, 2018 at 5:50 AM
- genus49
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I feel like watching Ward tape lately has sapped some of my earlier excitement about Jackson.
I'd still rather target Ward especially if we sign someone in FA. Let Ward and Williams compete for slot corner duty and get the best 3 out there. I feel like Ward could potentially do for us what Lattimore did for the Saints last year.
I feel like it's AJ Jenkins PTSD but hearing Kittle talk about how Jackson had to sit down and figure out what he wanted to turn his game to the next level scares me. I want guys who LOVE this game and bust their ass without having to sit down and figure chit out. I still think back to Jenkins and how his college coach pushed his ass and the light went on...but then oh so quickly fizzled in the NFL.
It could totally be nothing and maybe Jackson just grew up and he'll only get better and better but it's still a little concerning to me. I want us to kill this offseason so really hoping to avoid many misses and if they come...they shouldn't come on day 1/2 of the draft.
I'd still rather target Ward especially if we sign someone in FA. Let Ward and Williams compete for slot corner duty and get the best 3 out there. I feel like Ward could potentially do for us what Lattimore did for the Saints last year.
I feel like it's AJ Jenkins PTSD but hearing Kittle talk about how Jackson had to sit down and figure out what he wanted to turn his game to the next level scares me. I want guys who LOVE this game and bust their ass without having to sit down and figure chit out. I still think back to Jenkins and how his college coach pushed his ass and the light went on...but then oh so quickly fizzled in the NFL.
It could totally be nothing and maybe Jackson just grew up and he'll only get better and better but it's still a little concerning to me. I want us to kill this offseason so really hoping to avoid many misses and if they come...they shouldn't come on day 1/2 of the draft.
Feb 27, 2018 at 10:54 AM
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If we don't sign a top tier cornerback in FA and I fully expect and hope that we do sign one, than Joshua Jackson would be the guy I want at 9 or 10. Again though, I really expect us to upgrade at CB in FA.
Feb 27, 2018 at 11:05 AM
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Just hard to believe Stubby that we don't take a good CB in FA. I mean we had no Center so we re-signed Kilgore. Basically he is an insurance policy and you know we are going to get jimmy a better C than Kilgore. You know Lynch wants that CB in FA.
And we got $$$, we got KYle, we got Lynch, AND we got JIMMY. Lots of good reasons to come to a crummy old city like SF. There is that too.
And we got $$$, we got KYle, we got Lynch, AND we got JIMMY. Lots of good reasons to come to a crummy old city like SF. There is that too.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Feb 27, 2018 at 11:05 AM ]
Feb 27, 2018 at 3:43 PM
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Stubby , I'll add that i don't know if John and Kyle see anybody they really like in FA, then he' s in the running.
Feb 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Stubby , I'll add that i don't know if John and Kyle see anybody they really like in FA, then he' s in the running.
If we go into the draft without signing a starting caliber cornerback in FA then I'll eat my shoes.
Feb 27, 2018 at 3:53 PM
- gold49digger
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I like his size and his ball skils, but it doesn't seem like he plays with physicality. Correct me please if im wrong.
Feb 27, 2018 at 3:54 PM
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Originally posted by genus49:If we go into the draft without signing a starting caliber cornerback in FA then I'll eat my shoes.
Plz list the ones you consider starting caliber
Feb 27, 2018 at 4:07 PM
- genus49
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Originally posted by krizay:Plz list the ones you consider starting caliber
Fuller, Johnson, Colvin, Butler, Melvin or breeland.
Mar 2, 2018 at 11:18 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by krizay:Plz list the ones you consider starting caliber
Fuller, Johnson, Colvin, Butler, Melvin or breeland.
Spot on.
Mar 3, 2018 at 7:22 AM
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Originally posted by mayo49:I want this kid.
Oh yea. My top choice at 9 unless someone unexpected falls. Or we sign a starter in FA
Mar 3, 2018 at 8:41 AM
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Originally posted by Niners418:Oh yea. My top choice at 9 unless someone unexpected falls. Or we sign a starter in FA
He's not as big as I hoped he would be I'm very curious to see what he runs
Mar 4, 2018 at 8:09 PM
- mayo49
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Big day for Joshua tomorrow - a good forty time and he's a sure fire top 15 pick.
Mar 4, 2018 at 8:20 PM
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by Niners418:
Oh yea. My top choice at 9 unless someone unexpected falls. Or we sign a starter in FA
He's not as big as I hoped he would be I'm very curious to see what he runs
He's 6'1", do you mean his weight?