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Originally posted by vermonator:
This is one of the strangest drafts I have ever seen. To me Edmunds seems like a project that needs some polishing and he's a top 10 pick? With the way things are being projected, there doesn't seem to be much of a drop-off between the 9th and 32nd pick.
ANSW: Thanks, Chris! I'm quite fond of you as well. First, I have doubts about a linebacker in the first round. The 49ers paid big money for Malcolm Smith (WILL), drafted Reuben Foster (MIKE) in the first round and don't put a huge premium on SAM. That said, Edwards would seem to be a better fit because he could line up at all three spots whereas Smith probably is a WILL only.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article197407779.html#storylink=cpy
Originally posted by okdkid:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000912165/article/lance-zierlein-mock-draft-10-darnold-barkley-bolster-browns
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb
Edmunds goes #9 and before Smith in each of these recent mocks updated today. Smith goes #27 in the Brooks mock today.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000912165/article/lance-zierlein-mock-draft-10-darnold-barkley-bolster-browns
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb
Edmunds goes #9 and before Smith in each of these recent mocks updated today. Smith goes #27 in the Brooks mock today.
From top 10 to #27 - that's a big drop. Like to hear his explanation.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000912165/article/lance-zierlein-mock-draft-10-darnold-barkley-bolster-browns
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb
Edmunds goes #9 and before Smith in each of these recent mocks updated today. Smith goes #27 in the Brooks mock today.
From top 10 to #27 - that's a big drop. Like to hear his explanation.
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000912165/article/lance-zierlein-mock-draft-10-darnold-barkley-bolster-browns
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb
Edmunds goes #9 and before Smith in each of these recent mocks updated today. Smith goes #27 in the Brooks mock today.
From top 10 to #27 - that's a big drop. Like to hear his explanation.
thats dumb. raider i think are locks to get eithe edmunds or smith. They need a lb badly even if they re-sign Bow.
Originally posted by okdkid:Originally posted by gold49digger:Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by okdkid:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000912165/article/lance-zierlein-mock-draft-10-darnold-barkley-bolster-browns
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb
Edmunds goes #9 and before Smith in each of these recent mocks updated today. Smith goes #27 in the Brooks mock today.
From top 10 to #27 - that's a big drop. Like to hear his explanation.
thats dumb. raider i think are locks to get eithe edmunds or smith. They need a lb badly even if they re-sign Bow.
Possibly. But the Raiders need a lot of things. Can easily see them making a move for Barkley if he drops. Or standing pat and taking Edmunds/Smith. Or taking a CB. Or a safety.
I don't know how anybody can look at the Raiders roster -- particularly the defense -- and assume that LB is somehow the position they'd bite the bullet for in the top 10.
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000912165/article/lance-zierlein-mock-draft-10-darnold-barkley-bolster-browns
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb
Edmunds goes #9 and before Smith in each of these recent mocks updated today. Smith goes #27 in the Brooks mock today.
From top 10 to #27 - that's a big drop. Like to hear his explanation.
thats dumb. raider i think are locks to get eithe edmunds or smith. They need a lb badly even if they re-sign Bow.
Possibly. But the Raiders need a lot of things. Can easily see them making a move for Barkley if he drops. Or standing pat and taking Edmunds/Smith. Or taking a CB. Or a safety.
I don't know how anybody can look at the Raiders roster -- particularly the defense -- and assume that LB is somehow the position they'd bite the bullet for in the top 10.
Is there a safety that warrants a top pick? Maybe Derwin James but they already have Joseph. I could see them going after Jackson or ward but I feel like lb is a huge need for them unless they address it in FA.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Bellaleo:I've noticed the same thing. To be fair though Edmunds seems like a hard player to do a comparison on. Can't remember an offball LB with those measurables. He's built more like a Leo but excels playing off the ball. And at 19 you would expect his football IQ to be lower than most. I'm definitely intrigued
Even with the age, its not like his peers are that much older. Roquan is 20 and has substantially better instincts and awareness, as does Rashaan Evans who is 21.
Edmunds isn't going to spontaneously develop high level football IQ in 1 to 2 years.
I just get wary when people talk up a guy's height/weight/speed more than anything else. That is usually how busts happen.
Bigger/faster/stronger plays bigtime in college, in the NFL where most players are great athletes, the guys that thrive do so largely because of what they have between the ears.
Edmunds is really growing on me. He's unlike most linebacker prospects we've seen mostly because there aren't many that are 6-foot-5 that move like he does.
I like the possibility of his addition to the defense because of his versatility. He could play off the ball next to Reuben Foster. He could play in-line at SAM linebacker. And he has the freakish athleticism to rush the passer off the edge, essentially solving multiple questions in the front seven with one draft pick.
I think Edmunds is a rare prospect that could fit in any defense. The 49ers aren't all that specific when it comes finding physical tools for their front seven. We've seen players with different attributes play the same positions – like DeForest Buckner and Sheldon Day or Arik Armstead and Elvis Dumervil, for example.
It's a simplified one-gapping scheme that allows players to attack, rather than analyze the play as it's developing. That should expedite the development of someone that physically gifted.
Edmunds, in my opinion, would start at SAM linebacker, where Eli Harold plays, allowing Foster and Malcolm Smith to play the traditional linebacker spots. From there, you can figure out his best position after he becomes comfortable with the system. If the team figures out Smith isn't worth his pricey contract, then Edmunds might be the long-term option at WILL playing next to Foster.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Chis Biderman from Niners Nation on the topic of Edmunds/Smith...
http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/30/49ers-twitter-mailbag-an-under-the-radar-free-agent-target-coming/2/
Edmunds is really growing on me. He's unlike most linebacker prospects we've seen mostly because there aren't many that are 6-foot-5 that move like he does.
I like the possibility of his addition to the defense because of his versatility. He could play off the ball next to Reuben Foster. He could play in-line at SAM linebacker. And he has the freakish athleticism to rush the passer off the edge, essentially solving multiple questions in the front seven with one draft pick.
I think Edmunds is a rare prospect that could fit in any defense. The 49ers aren't all that specific when it comes finding physical tools for their front seven. We've seen players with different attributes play the same positions – like DeForest Buckner and Sheldon Day or Arik Armstead and Elvis Dumervil, for example.
It's a simplified one-gapping scheme that allows players to attack, rather than analyze the play as it's developing. That should expedite the development of someone that physically gifted.
Edmunds, in my opinion, would start at SAM linebacker, where Eli Harold plays, allowing Foster and Malcolm Smith to play the traditional linebacker spots. From there, you can figure out his best position after he becomes comfortable with the system. If the team figures out Smith isn't worth his pricey contract, then Edmunds might be the long-term option at WILL playing next to Foster.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Chris Biderman a year ago-"There is no way that the 49ers draft Solomon Thomas." He was driving the bus for the "not a chance in hell they take Thomas" crowd.
"I feel pretty good about the 49ers drafting Malik Hooker."
Meh.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Sure. Are we allowed to discredit every draft pundit on their past misses? Don't know what's special about this case. It's just his opinion. Matches that of Barrows in this case.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Chis Biderman from Niners Nation on the topic of Edmunds/Smith...
http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/30/49ers-twitter-mailbag-an-under-the-radar-free-agent-target-coming/2/
Edmunds is really growing on me. He's unlike most linebacker prospects we've seen mostly because there aren't many that are 6-foot-5 that move like he does.
I like the possibility of his addition to the defense because of his versatility. He could play off the ball next to Reuben Foster. He could play in-line at SAM linebacker. And he has the freakish athleticism to rush the passer off the edge, essentially solving multiple questions in the front seven with one draft pick.
I think Edmunds is a rare prospect that could fit in any defense. The 49ers aren't all that specific when it comes finding physical tools for their front seven. We've seen players with different attributes play the same positions – like DeForest Buckner and Sheldon Day or Arik Armstead and Elvis Dumervil, for example.
It's a simplified one-gapping scheme that allows players to attack, rather than analyze the play as it's developing. That should expedite the development of someone that physically gifted.
Edmunds, in my opinion, would start at SAM linebacker, where Eli Harold plays, allowing Foster and Malcolm Smith to play the traditional linebacker spots. From there, you can figure out his best position after he becomes comfortable with the system. If the team figures out Smith isn't worth his pricey contract, then Edmunds might be the long-term option at WILL playing next to Foster.