Tremaine Edmunds - LB - Virginia Tech

Originally posted by Dillesq:
It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is also 20...

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is only 20 yo.

How does he have more upside? Because he's taller?

Roquan Smith has Derrick Brooks as a cieling. Edmunds has Anthony Barr as a cieling. I know which LB I'd want in this scenario.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is also 20...

Hahaha people gotta do some research before saying things in here.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is also 20...

Hahaha people gotta do some research before saying things in here.

Edmunds won't be 20 until May if I'm not mistaken..

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
If we stay at 9/10 (i hope & bet we dont)Josh Jackson would be my pick.

But between smith and edmunds.... give me Edmunds. He can do more for our defense and has the dreaded higher ceiling.

I'll take smith over Jackson and Edmunds all day.

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

You're taking this kinda hard... it's just a prospect.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

If we stay at 9/10 (i hope & bet we dont)Josh Jackson would be my pick.

But between smith and edmunds.... give me Edmunds. He can do more for our defense and has the dreaded higher ceiling.

I'll take smith over Jackson and Edmunds all day.

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

You're taking this kinda hard... it's just a prospect.

if pointing out illogic statements based on nothing then i guess i am taking this pretty hard. Let me know when you watch some tape.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is only 20 yo.

How does he have more upside? Because he's taller?

Roquan Smith has Derrick Brooks as a cieling. Edmunds has Anthony Barr as a cieling. I know which LB I'd want in this scenario.

I like Roquan, but Derrick Brooks? Come on bro lol.

I see him as a Thomas Davis comp if he can get stronger. Davis has been a stud WLB for a decade now, so that's pretty high praise. He's nowhere close to Brooks though.

I see Edmunds as another Jamie Collins, but that's with zero improvements. His upside is much higher if he can clean up the mental mistakes. His athleticism and size is very Urlacher'ish. Dude needs to work his behind off to reach that ceiling though because it's film study and technical flaws that's holding him back and many guys half a** those things when they are super athletic.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is only 20 yo.

How does he have more upside? Because he's taller?

Roquan Smith has Derrick Brooks as a cieling. Edmunds has Anthony Barr as a cieling. I know which LB I'd want in this scenario.

I like Roquan, but Derrick Brooks? Come on bro lol.

I see him as a Thomas Davis comp if he can get stronger. Davis has been a stud WLB for a decade now, so that's pretty high praise. He's nowhere close to Brooks though.

I said that's his cieling. He can be a great will linebacker in a 4-3. Derrick brooks is heralded by his teammates for having a "sixth sense" and "have an instinct for knowing what was coming beforehand"....i see a lot of that in Roquan. They are also the same size. Brooks was 6'0" 235. Roquan is 6'1" 230.

Brooks was amazing in space and could chase down the likes of Barry sanders and Marshall Faulk and also cover fast tight ends and even slot guys. Roquan has a similar skill set. He's great in space and that's what you need to be in order to be great in the NFL.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is only 20 yo.

How does he have more upside? Because he's taller?

Roquan Smith has Derrick Brooks as a cieling. Edmunds has Anthony Barr as a cieling. I know which LB I'd want in this scenario.

I like Roquan, but Derrick Brooks? Come on bro lol.

I see him as a Thomas Davis comp if he can get stronger. Davis has been a stud WLB for a decade now, so that's pretty high praise. He's nowhere close to Brooks though.

I said that's his cieling. He can be a great will linebacker in a 4-3. Derrick brooks is heralded by his teammates for having a "sixth sense" and "have an instinct for knowing what was coming beforehand"....i see a lot of that in Roquan. They are also the same size. Brooks was 6'0" 235. Roquan is 6'1" 230.

Brooks was amazing in space and could chase down the likes of Barry sanders and Marshall Faulk and also cover fast tight ends and even slot guys. Roquan has a similar skill set. He's great in space and that's what you need to be in order to be great in the NFL.

I don't see his ceiling being that high. He has great instincts, but Brooks knack for sniffing out plays was otherworldly. Brooks also didn't have issues getting off blocks when teams ran right at him.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is only 20 yo.

How does he have more upside? Because he's taller?

Roquan Smith has Derrick Brooks as a cieling. Edmunds has Anthony Barr as a cieling. I know which LB I'd want in this scenario.

I like Roquan, but Derrick Brooks? Come on bro lol.

I see him as a Thomas Davis comp if he can get stronger. Davis has been a stud WLB for a decade now, so that's pretty high praise. He's nowhere close to Brooks though.

I said that's his cieling. He can be a great will linebacker in a 4-3. Derrick brooks is heralded by his teammates for having a "sixth sense" and "have an instinct for knowing what was coming beforehand"....i see a lot of that in Roquan. They are also the same size. Brooks was 6'0" 235. Roquan is 6'1" 230.

Brooks was amazing in space and could chase down the likes of Barry sanders and Marshall Faulk and also cover fast tight ends and even slot guys. Roquan has a similar skill set. He's great in space and that's what you need to be in order to be great in the NFL.

I don't see his ceiling being that high. He has great instincts, but Brooks knack for sniffing out plays was otherworldly. Brooks also didn't have issues getting off blocks when teams ran right at him.

Because he had warren sapp to keep him clean!! Along with Simeon Rice and Booger McFarland

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by Dillesq:

It's really insane that people (who didn't even know if Edmunds until 2 weeks ago) are suggesting he's the better prospect. It's blowing my mind.

I'm not saying he's a better prospect then Smith but Edmunds is only 20 years old. His best football is in front of him. Smith is one heck of a football player but Edmunds has more upside.

Roquan is only 20 yo.

How does he have more upside? Because he's taller?

Roquan Smith has Derrick Brooks as a cieling. Edmunds has Anthony Barr as a cieling. I know which LB I'd want in this scenario.

I like Roquan, but Derrick Brooks? Come on bro lol.

I see him as a Thomas Davis comp if he can get stronger. Davis has been a stud WLB for a decade now, so that's pretty high praise. He's nowhere close to Brooks though.

I said that's his cieling. He can be a great will linebacker in a 4-3. Derrick brooks is heralded by his teammates for having a "sixth sense" and "have an instinct for knowing what was coming beforehand"....i see a lot of that in Roquan. They are also the same size. Brooks was 6'0" 235. Roquan is 6'1" 230.

Brooks was amazing in space and could chase down the likes of Barry sanders and Marshall Faulk and also cover fast tight ends and even slot guys. Roquan has a similar skill set. He's great in space and that's what you need to be in order to be great in the NFL.

I don't see his ceiling being that high. He has great instincts, but Brooks knack for sniffing out plays was otherworldly. Brooks also didn't have issues getting off blocks when teams ran right at him.

Because he had warren sapp to keep him clean!! Along with Simeon Rice and Booger McFarland

All those guys and others complimented each other really well and it contributed to their success on the field, but Brooks would've been a hall of fame player no matter where he played or who played with.

I also would hope that the players around him wouldn't need to be perfect for Smith to have success on our team. If so then he shouldn't be our first round pick.

Originally posted by Nastastical:
All those guys and others complimented each other really well and it contributed to their success on the field, but Brooks would've been a hall of fame player no matter where he played or who played with.

I also would hope that the players around him wouldn't need to be perfect for Smith to have success on our team. If so then he shouldn't be our first round pick.

You nailed it. This is a critical issue with Roquan. Needs more help than typical top 10 picks to be successful. Unlike other top 10 picks -- he will have trouble getting it done on his own. Edmunds can do it regardless of talent around him. Same with other top 10 guys like Minkah, Barkley, etc. Just wish Roquan had more versatility. He can only ever play one position. Why take that in the top 10?

Originally posted by okdkid:

You nailed it. This is a critical issue with Roquan. Needs more help than typical top 10 picks to be successful. Unlike other top 10 picks -- he will have trouble getting it done on his own. Edmunds can do it regardless of talent around him. Same with other top 10 guys like Minkah, Barkley, etc. Just wish Roquan had more versatility. He can only ever play one position. Why take that in the top 10?

That's nonsense! He could play MIKE it's just that Foster is more suited to at this stage. Also LB on Nickel and Dime packages should almost be separate positions and he'd excel at those.

I agree with you that we don't have to hate on one to appreciate the other, for what we will ask them to do Roquan is the superior player.

If after interviews they got the vibe that Tremaine would work his @ss off then I could also get on board for him.

I just feel he'll get over drafted for his athleticism and size, if he works out his ceiling is almost undeniably higher than Roquan's, there simply haven't been any LB's that big and that fast, like ever.

I'm no film junkie nor am I an nfl scout just a fan but is it possible that Edmunds could play Sam on run downs then slide to Leo on pass downs . Is this even possible? Are there players who play multiple spots like that in the league? If so Edmunds might be a natural fit here considering Saleh doesn't ask his players to diagnosis very much pre snap,all gas no brakes is how he puts it I believe.