Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Depends on who he passes on him for. If it's Jonah Williams, I can understand it because he's one of the cleanest tackle prospects to come out in recent memory and fits this offense perfectly. The kid is an absolute stud at LT and we would have the best tackle combo in the league within a season or two. Plus Joe Staley is on the brink of retirement and you don't pay Jimmy the money they just paid him to have some bum watching his blindside. If Joe returns for one more season, Williams can play inside for a year.

Any other player would definitely raise questions about Lynch though. He would also still have to address the edge either through free agency or by being aggressive through the draft by moving back into the first to select the best edge rusher available.

Really? I see some draft guys saying he might be best inside because of lack of length...IMO they don't have to spend two top 10 picks on OTs you gotta be able to develop someone at some pt. Would be a very uninspiring pick after the s**t season we've had. Also got to look at cap space down the road. Edge rushers are making bank. I also don't see SF forking over top end money for both tackles. just a guess.

It's gotta be edge, the draft is perfect for it. IF you can't get Bosa move down and still grab a great EDGE prospect. I'd rather go to FA for a tackle then a edge rusher if I had to pick between the two.

Anyone who considers permanently moving Jonah Williams inside should be fired. He's athletic, has clean technique and a workaholic with A+ character. If our front office and KS fell in love with McGlinchey because of these traits, then Williams is going to have them excited as ever as the draft nears. He's the type of tackle you want in this scheme and locker room. Hell if McGlinchey were in the 2019 draft, Williams would be firmly ahead of him as a prospect and I love how Mike looks right now.

If Joe Staley retires, I expect him to be selected by us, whether Bosa is on the board or not. If Joe comes back, then things will really get interesting on draft day. Bosa would most likely be our pick if we have #1OA, but if any red flags pop up like bad medicals, I expect Williams to leap frog him on our draft board because he's that good of a prospect.

Bosa is an elite prospect and deserving of the hype, but priorities change when it comes to protecting your franchise QB who is going to already be coming off a knee injury. If Joe hangs em up, taking Williams is a must and while it sucks, edge might have to wait or be addressed through free agency or later in the draft.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9moon:

.. WHY do you think he should be the 1st overall pick??

Best overall player in the draft? That is usually why you take a guy #1.

So was Bo Callahan. This draft is deep at Edge. Trade No. 1 to a team desperate for our generation's Brian Bosworth, get a ton of draft capital and take Polite.

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9moon:

.. WHY do you think he should be the 1st overall pick??

Best overall player in the draft? That is usually why you take a guy #1.

So was Bo Callahan. This draft is deep at Edge. Trade No. 1 to a team desperate for our generation's Brian Bosworth, get a ton of draft capital and take Polite.

We definitely need to rob somone of all their draft picks so they can take bosa at #1. We need way more than bosa and really I wouldn't want to take somone who abandons their team just to avoid getting injured. Already shows signs of fear and weakness.

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9moon:

.. WHY do you think he should be the 1st overall pick??

Best overall player in the draft? That is usually why you take a guy #1.

So was Bo Callahan. This draft is deep at Edge. Trade No. 1 to a team desperate for our generation's Brian Bosworth, get a ton of draft capital and take Polite.

Did Bosas teammates go to his birthday party? If not that's a huge red flag

Originally posted by SupremeLeader16:

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9moon:

.. WHY do you think he should be the 1st overall pick??

Best overall player in the draft? That is usually why you take a guy #1.

So was Bo Callahan. This draft is deep at Edge. Trade No. 1 to a team desperate for our generation's Brian Bosworth, get a ton of draft capital and take Polite.

We definitely need to rob somone of all their draft picks so they can take bosa at #1. We need way more than bosa and really I wouldn't want to take somone who abandons their team just to avoid getting injured. Already shows signs of fear and weakness.

were you a McCaffrey fan?

Originally posted by SupremeLeader16:

We definitely need to rob somone of all their draft picks so they can take bosa at #1. We need way more than bosa and really I wouldn't want to take somone who abandons their team just to avoid getting injured. Already shows signs of fear and weakness.

Originally posted by midrdan:

So was Bo Callahan. This draft is deep at Edge. Trade No. 1 to a team desperate for our generation's Brian Bosworth, get a ton of draft capital and take Polite.

I'm sorry, did you just make a comparison to a fictional movie?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by midrdan:

So was Bo Callahan. This draft is deep at Edge. Trade No. 1 to a team desperate for our generation's Brian Bosworth, get a ton of draft capital and take Polite.

I'm sorry, did you just make a comparison to a fictional movie?

There was nothing fictional about Draft Day!

I'm still confused as to how Bosa is going to contribute when he's on the injury list week after week?

I agree that he's talented but that's not the question. The question is, how in the world is he going to miraculously be a 16 game starter when he's had a history of being injured?

Another top 3 wanted pick on a guy with a very shaky injury track record, from a gene pool of other injured players would be just the right thing to sink the Shanny/Lynch era......

No thanks, we need to have players that can actually be suited up for 16 games and contribute instead of chasing the "potential" in players that never see the field and are always just over there at the end of the rainbow.

Originally posted by KamLeon:

I'm still confused as to how Bosa is going to contribute when he's on the injury list week after week?

I agree that he's talented but that's not the question. The question is, how in the world is he going to miraculously be a 16 game starter when he's had a history of being injured?

Another top 3 wanted pick on a guy with a very shaky injury track record, from a gene pool of other injured players would be just the right thing to sink the Shanny/Lynch era......

No thanks, we need to have players that can actually be suited up for 16 games and contribute instead of chasing the "potential" in players that never see the field and are always just over there at the end of the rainbow.

No, you sink the era by passing on known studs who go onto produce, look at the flak they've got for Mahomes, and that is with obvious flaws on him and us acquiring a great QB with a 2 round pick!

Originally posted by KamLeon:

I'm still confused as to how Bosa is going to contribute when he's on the injury list week after week?

I agree that he's talented but that's not the question. The question is, how in the world is he going to miraculously be a 16 game starter when he's had a history of being injured?

Another top 3 wanted pick on a guy with a very shaky injury track record, from a gene pool of other injured players would be just the right thing to sink the Shanny/Lynch era......

No thanks, we need to have players that can actually be suited up for 16 games and contribute instead of chasing the "potential" in players that never see the field and are always just over there at the end of the rainbow.

Imagine if we applied to same logic when drafting (or not) Frank Gore.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by English:

If we have the overall first pick next spring and, excluding a drop dead gorgeous trade, DONT draft Bosa I am going into hiding. You guys will have to mod yourselves. The place will meltdown and disintegrate into a pile of radioactive waste.

Will you step down as mod ?

Leaving you unprotected? My conscience would not permit.

Originally posted by KamLeon:

I'm still confused as to how Bosa is going to contribute when he's on the injury list week after week?

I agree that he's talented but that's not the question. The question is, how in the world is he going to miraculously be a 16 game starter when he's had a history of being injured?

Another top 3 wanted pick on a guy with a very shaky injury track record, from a gene pool of other injured players would be just the right thing to sink the Shanny/Lynch era......

No thanks, we need to have players that can actually be suited up for 16 games and contribute instead of chasing the "potential" in players that never see the field and are always just over there at the end of the rainbow.

Well, I checked the interwebs to find out if this injury business was justified. How many games do you think he missed last year. The answer to this is none. How many games do you think he missed the year before? The answer, again, is none. Prior to OSU the interwebs report "Bosa attended St. Thomas Aquinas in Fort Lauderdale, Florida where he was a four-year starter and a multi-year first team all-state player. He was a five-star recruit and was ranked among the best players in his class." Hardly the assessment of a frequently injured young man.

So I genuinely don't see where this "very shaky injury track record" comes from. I would like to see some justification please.

This guy is an absolute monster and those saying he has injury issues are looking for excuses. I would not be mad if he were the guy.

BUT, if we end up with the #1 pick this year, we need to trade back and load up on draft picks. This is a crucial year for the rebuild and the team only has four total picks coming. Add Foster's release, and there are too many holes to bank on one player. EDGE, CB, ILB, SAM, FS, OG, WR are all areas for concern right now.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Anyone who considers permanently moving Jonah Williams inside should be fired. He's athletic, has clean technique and a workaholic with A+ character. If our front office and KS fell in love with McGlinchey because of these traits, then Williams is going to have them excited as ever as the draft nears. He's the type of tackle you want in this scheme and locker room. Hell if McGlinchey were in the 2019 draft, Williams would be firmly ahead of him as a prospect and I love how Mike looks right now.

If Joe Staley retires, I expect him to be selected by us, whether Bosa is on the board or not. If Joe comes back, then things will really get interesting on draft day. Bosa would most likely be our pick if we have #1OA, but if any red flags pop up like bad medicals, I expect Williams to leap frog him on our draft board because he's that good of a prospect.

Bosa is an elite prospect and deserving of the hype, but priorities change when it comes to protecting your franchise QB who is going to already be coming off a knee injury. If Joe hangs em up, taking Williams is a must and while it sucks, edge might have to wait or be addressed through free agency or later in the draft.

I saw Phoenix stat that some people view him as a guard...he's got little arms. I do agree he's polished as far as technique goes. He's athletic and a great fit. He's not quite the mauler in the run game like MM.

I doubt Joe retires this off season, he's got another yr left in his deal and I wouldn't be shocked if they try to give him another extension (add a yr).

I wouldn't be pissed just bummed that we go say 3-13 just to get another tackle. I just don't see it happening honestly.

Imo if Bosa has red flags or whatever they will try to move down at all costs. Then it's fair game on who they go after because they need a lot of things.