Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Anyone who considers permanently moving Jonah Williams inside should be fired. He's athletic, has clean technique and a workaholic with A+ character. If our front office and KS fell in love with McGlinchey because of these traits, then Williams is going to have them excited as ever as the draft nears. He's the type of tackle you want in this scheme and locker room. Hell if McGlinchey were in the 2019 draft, Williams would be firmly ahead of him as a prospect and I love how Mike looks right now.

If Joe Staley retires, I expect him to be selected by us, whether Bosa is on the board or not. If Joe comes back, then things will really get interesting on draft day. Bosa would most likely be our pick if we have #1OA, but if any red flags pop up like bad medicals, I expect Williams to leap frog him on our draft board because he's that good of a prospect.

Bosa is an elite prospect and deserving of the hype, but priorities change when it comes to protecting your franchise QB who is going to already be coming off a knee injury. If Joe hangs em up, taking Williams is a must and while it sucks, edge might have to wait or be addressed through free agency or later in the draft.

As a long-standing supporter of getting and keeping the strongest possible O line, I find myself in the strange position of disagreeing with you.

One point at a time. If we take Williams and Staley doesn't opt to retire - and I see nothing to suggest he will - you don't want Williams on the inside for a year? I want our 1st overall pick out there, every possible snap, not waiting to spell one of the starters or passing out the water.

When the draft is rich at a position you are poor at, you do not duck it and wait. We are desperate for edge and this draft has elite edge. QED.

If Staley opts to retire, we can, as you suggest for the edge, address the RT later in the draft or through FA. The LT would of course be McGlinchey. We need to look at this position later in the draft anyway.

As important as the OT position is, edge rush is even more important. Garoppolo is mobile and gets rid of the ball very quickly.

Originally posted by SupremeLeader16:

We definitely need to rob somone of all their draft picks so they can take bosa at #1. We need way more than bosa and really I wouldn't want to take somone who abandons their team just to avoid getting injured. Already shows signs of fear and weakness.

I mean Fournette and McCaffrey both ditched their teams come bowl time a lot of players are doing it.

End of the day it's a business and I guess the injury took longer to heal then I thought. I got zero problem with him trying to get himself right for his future job.

Originally posted by KamLeon:

I'm still confused as to how Bosa is going to contribute when he's on the injury list week after week?

I agree that he's talented but that's not the question. The question is, how in the world is he going to miraculously be a 16 game starter when he's had a history of being injured?

Another top 3 wanted pick on a guy with a very shaky injury track record, from a gene pool of other injured players would be just the right thing to sink the Shanny/Lynch era......

No thanks, we need to have players that can actually be suited up for 16 games and contribute instead of chasing the "potential" in players that never see the field and are always just over there at the end of the rainbow.

To be fair, so did Myles Garrett. But 17 sacks in 20 games as a pro doesn't lie.



While any injury concerns should be checked out, before this season Bosa played in 26 games in college without issue.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Imagine if we applied to same logic when drafting (or not) Frank Gore.

Very true,great point, but that being said, our draft history doesn't support this theory. I'd rather have 3 Fred Warner's instead of 1 injury proned Bosa, but that's just my opinion.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

To be fair, so did Myles Garrett. But 17 sacks in 20 games as a pro doesn't lie.



While any injury concerns should be checked out, before this season Bosa played in 26 games in college without issue.

Consecutive games? If so then the risk is much less, but still a concern. Sure, there are players that overcome injuries, but they are not the rule and with our current lucky streak of absolute failures and misfortune, no player is a safe bet. I'd rather get 3 players for the price of 1 to increase our chances of success.

Originally posted by KamLeon:

Consecutive games? If so then the risk is much less, but still a concern. Sure, there are players that overcome injuries, but they are not the rule and with our current lucky streak of absolute failures and misfortune, no player is a safe bet. I'd rather get 3 players for the price of 1 to increase our chances of success.

Its football, players do get injured sometimes. Bosa played in 26 games in his two years so its not like he's constantly been missing games


His current injury takes about 5 to 6 weeks to return from basically but its clear that he and his family see no reason to rush back when he isn't being paid to do so and would be risking his future draft status in doing so.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Its football, players do get injured sometimes. Bosa played in 26 games in his two years so its not like he's constantly been missing games

His current injury takes about 5 to 6 weeks to return from basically but its clear that he and his family see no reason to rush back when he isn't being paid to do so and would be risking his future draft status in doing so.

Exactly...I'm an ND fan who was at the bowl game where Jaylon Smith tore his knee up months before the draft and therefore he slid into round 2 (49ers should have taken him instead of Garnett but that's another kettle of fish). I have no issue with players opting to not play bowl games, especially if not for a national championship. That injury cost Smith millions and could have ruined his career.

Originally posted by KamLeon:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Imagine if we applied to same logic when drafting (or not) Frank Gore.

Very true,great point, but that being said, our draft history doesn't support this theory. I'd rather have 3 Fred Warner's instead of 1 injury proned Bosa, but that's just my opinion.

Please see post #913. I am eagerly awaiting your justification for this idea you repeat that Bosa is injury prone. If you can't justify it, please stop repeating it. FYI the word prone in this context means having an ongoing tendency.

I want some Bosa.

How does Bosa compare to other recent top pass rushers selected? Garrett, Chubb, Joey Bosa, Clowney, etc.?

Originally posted by 5timechamps:
Boas should be the guy we go after,but we will mess it up some kind of way.

100% preparing for this...mentally and emotionally.

It looks like we may not get the top pick if it comes down to strength of schedule. Four of our last 5 games are against teams with good records. We should at least get no worse than 3 unless we somehow win a game.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It looks like we may not get the top pick if it comes down to strength of schedule. Four of our last 5 games are against teams with good records. We should at least get no worse than 3 unless we somehow win a game.

The good news is that the Cardinals have the same division schedule as us and harder outside opponents. Besides that, the AFCW (Raiders' division) is set up with a lot of winnable games, which should drive the Raiders SOS up, while the NFCW has some tough matchups, driving our SOS down.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It looks like we may not get the top pick if it comes down to strength of schedule. Four of our last 5 games are against teams with good records. We should at least get no worse than 3 unless we somehow win a game.

So the only tie breaker is SOS? It seems odd that AZ would get the #1 since they beat SF twice.....you'd think that would be the tie breaker....since we are obviously a s**tt!er team than AZ.

You know the tie breaker is set up to screw the Niners one way or another. Seriously I doubt that SOS won't be able to decide it. Very unlikely they would end up the same even with some of the same opponents. Not sure what the next tie breaker is. Probably whoever kisses the commissioner's butt.