DK Metcalf

60% of Gordon's routes were slants, gos or posts. To me I think that's likely what Metcalf brings to the table. A big play vertical guy with a limited route tree. Shanny probably isn't taking him but I don't see his skills failing.

Calvin Johnson didn't do the agility drills because he knew he wasn't gonna do well at them. DK is in that tier of potential imo. Don't think we'll draft him but he will be so fun to watch.

My comp for Metcalf is Breshad Perriman. I just don't see a great career in the NFL.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
60% of Gordon's routes were slants, gos or posts. To me I think that's likely what Metcalf brings to the table. A big play vertical guy with a limited route tree. Shanny probably isn't taking him but I don't see his skills failing.

Calvin was ACC player of the year and Biletnikoff winner

edit: I don't think any WR since Calvin can claim to be in Calvin's tier. I think Calvin Johnson was simply the best WR prospect all time.

Tier 2 (since 1990) is guys like AJ green, Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, Michael Westbrook, Charles Rogers, Sammy Watkins, and Amari Cooper.

2nd edit: I'd put Randy Moss in Calvin's tier if we are talking strictly athletic talent and football performance.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

60% of Gordon's routes were slants, gos or posts. To me I think that's likely what Metcalf brings to the table. A big play vertical guy with a limited route tree. Shanny probably isn't taking him but I don't see his skills failing.

Calvin was ACC player of the year and Biletnikoff winner

edit: I don't think any WR since Calvin can claim to be in Calvin's tier. I think Calvin Johnson was simply the best WR prospect all time.

Tier 2 (since 1990) is guys like AJ green, Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, Michael Westbrook, Charles Rogers, Sammy Watkins, and Amari Cooper.

2nd edit: I'd put Randy Moss in Calvin's tier if we are talking strictly athletic talent and football performance.

What about don hutson? And jerry rice?

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

60% of Gordon's routes were slants, gos or posts. To me I think that's likely what Metcalf brings to the table. A big play vertical guy with a limited route tree. Shanny probably isn't taking him but I don't see his skills failing.

Calvin was ACC player of the year and Biletnikoff winner

edit: I don't think any WR since Calvin can claim to be in Calvin's tier. I think Calvin Johnson was simply the best WR prospect all time.

Tier 2 (since 1990) is guys like AJ green, Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, Michael Westbrook, Charles Rogers, Sammy Watkins, and Amari Cooper.

2nd edit: I'd put Randy Moss in Calvin's tier if we are talking strictly athletic talent and football performance.

I'd also put Julio with Moss and Calvin.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
60% of Gordon's routes were slants, gos or posts. To me I think that's likely what Metcalf brings to the table. A big play vertical guy with a limited route tree. Shanny probably isn't taking him but I don't see his skills failing.

Agreed. Metcalf can just run all the go and outside routes. Bottom line is he is a match-up nightmare because he combines unmatched speed, size and strength. 99% of DBs will have a hard time trying to cover him.

The chances are Metcalf will be the first WR off the board whether you like it or not. Kyle Shanahan needs to relook into his selection criteria on WRs because he keeps picking small and skinny WRs who can't take the hits like Goodwin and Pettis. Plus, not all WRs must have the same skills set, he can mix and match. What 49ers don't have is a true No.1 outside WR who can be a match-up nightmare to win jump balls and be a lethal red zone weapon.

I wasn't talking about him at 2, but he won't last till mid-1st round. We need an elite EDGE, so we won't have a chance to take him. But, in the 2nd round we must take a legit WR.

Much rather have AJ Brown, Riley Ridley, Deebo Samuel or Andy Isabella.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Much rather have AJ Brown, Riley Ridley, Deebo Samuel or Andy Isabella.

AJ Brown is alright, but he is more of a slot guy and he is pretty good with run after the catch too. But, the moment you watch Metcalf's tape, there is a huge contrast. Metcalf runs all the deep routes. He was the go-to guy for Ole Miss for chunk plays and vertical routes. We already have some pretty decent slot guys. We need a guy who can give us those explosive big vertical plays, not just in terms of speed alone but someone who has both the strength and physicality to out-muscle DBs. Goodwin has the speed, but he is too fragile and doesn't have the size to initiate contacts nor the physical toughness to take the hits.

Bottom line is this, we need that true No.1 WR, a match-up nightmare which demands double-teaming. And that person is DK Metcalf. Just think about that for a moment, he outruns you, he outjumps you and he outmuscles you. The criticisms about him being weak at change of direction is seriously no big deal. The guy runs a 4.33, he will outaccelerate the DB. Even if the DB could hang with him, who is going to be able to outjump him? For one, he jumps a 40 1/2" vertical and have you seen his body and how strong he is? 27 reps of 225lbs bench press for cry out loud. The fact that he goes deep so often makes him highly dangerous. One massive deep ball/chunk play can change the momentum of the game. Whereas the rest of the names you mentioned are more like nice additions as opposed to game changers/difference makers.

He doesn't seem like a guy that Kyle usually goes for but it's hard to believe that Kyle couldn't scheme around his deep ball skills. Teams would essentially have to leave a guy over the top (like they do for Goodwin) and he'd be an asset to the run game too.

Not my first choice but I wouldn't hate it, especially if we get Houston in FA and an edge guy falls to our second pick.

Originally posted by All22:

He doesn't seem like a guy that Kyle usually goes for but it's hard to believe that Kyle couldn't scheme around his deep ball skills. Teams would essentially have to leave a guy over the top (like they do for Goodwin) and he'd be an asset to the run game too.

Not my first choice but I wouldn't hate it, especially if we get Houston in FA and an edge guy falls to our second pick.

Taking a raw, project receiver that missed nearly as many games as he played in over a top edge rusher prospect is not something I think is very likely for the 49ers to do.


It would be one thing if he had a long, consistent track record of progression like a Julio Jones but that just isn't the case. Missed most of his freshman year, missed most of his junior year. Never had more than 650 yards receiving. He'll likely get overdrafted due to his upside but I don't see the 49ers being that team. I think he could work well in Buffalo with Allen having a cannon arm and needing a legit vertical threat to throw to.

Is this the guy with worse lateral metrics than Brady? Pass unless round 2.

Originally posted by All22:
He doesn't seem like a guy that Kyle usually goes for but it's hard to believe that Kyle couldn't scheme around his deep ball skills. Teams would essentially have to leave a guy over the top (like they do for Goodwin) and he'd be an asset to the run game too.

Not my first choice but I wouldn't hate it, especially if we get Houston in FA and an edge guy falls to our second pick.

You are right and I mentioned that a couple of posts earlier too, Kyle Shanahan tends to go for route runners and guys that can separate. Not to say there is anything wrong with that, but in my opinion he is limiting himself as they tend to be smaller, shiftier guys. Personally, I prefer say the way the Steelers draft their WRs. They cover a range of receivers, yes while they have taken smaller guys like Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace, they also go after their bigger counterparts like Martavis Bryant and JuJu Smith-Schuster.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Taking a raw, project receiver that missed nearly as many games as he played in over a top edge rusher prospect is not something I think is very likely for the 49ers to do.

It would be one thing if he had a long, consistent track record of progression like a Julio Jones but that just isn't the case. Missed most of his freshman year, missed most of his junior year. Never had more than 650 yards receiving. He'll likely get overdrafted due to his upside but I don't see the 49ers being that team. I think he could work well in Buffalo with Allen having a cannon arm and needing a legit vertical threat to throw to.

This talk is only academic. The 9ers will take an EDGE at 2, we don't have the pick for Metcalf. He will be long gone by the time it gets to our 2nd round pick.

For the record, I never said take Metcalf at 2 instead of an elite EDGE. But, hypothetically should both AJ Brown and Metcalf be still on the board at 36, I think Lynch and Shanny might be tempted to go for Metcalf's superior physicals and upsides. May be Wes Welker might think he can turn Metcalf into a stud.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Agreed. Metcalf can just run all the go and outside routes. Bottom line is he is a match-up nightmare because he combines unmatched speed, size and strength. 99% of DBs will have a hard time trying to cover him.

The chances are Metcalf will be the first WR off the board whether you like it or not. Kyle Shanahan needs to relook into his selection criteria on WRs because he keeps picking small and skinny WRs who can't take the hits like Goodwin and Pettis. Plus, not all WRs must have the same skills set, he can mix and match. What 49ers don't have is a true No.1 outside WR who can be a match-up nightmare to win jump balls and be a lethal red zone weapon.

I wasn't talking about him at 2, but he won't last till mid-1st round. We need an elite EDGE, so we won't have a chance to take him. But, in the 2nd round we must take a legit WR.

I challenge you to watch little Greedy Williams on him and tell me how he's going to be a mismatch for NFL players.