DK Metcalf

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Calvin was ACC player of the year and Biletnikoff winner

edit: I don't think any WR since Calvin can claim to be in Calvin's tier. I think Calvin Johnson was simply the best WR prospect all time.

Tier 2 (since 1990) is guys like AJ green, Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, Michael Westbrook, Charles Rogers, Sammy Watkins, and Amari Cooper.

2nd edit: I'd put Randy Moss in Calvin's tier if we are talking strictly athletic talent and football performance.

Ha ha. Where does Jerry fit in?

Originally posted by Rascal:

Agreed. Metcalf can just run all the go and outside routes. Bottom line is he is a match-up nightmare because he combines unmatched speed, size and strength. 99% of DBs will have a hard time trying to cover him.

The chances are Metcalf will be the first WR off the board whether you like it or not. Kyle Shanahan needs to relook into his selection criteria on WRs because he keeps picking small and skinny WRs who can't take the hits like Goodwin and Pettis. Plus, not all WRs must have the same skills set, he can mix and match. What 49ers don't have is a true No.1 outside WR who can be a match-up nightmare to win jump balls and be a lethal red zone weapon.

I wasn't talking about him at 2, but he won't last till mid-1st round. We need an elite EDGE, so we won't have a chance to take him. But, in the 2nd round we must take a legit WR.

Don't get me wrong I'm 100% taking Bosa over him, 100% against trading down if Bosa's on the board but Shanny has had success with Andre, Julio, Gordon. I'm not seeing how Metcalf is going to be a problem in his offense.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Don't get me wrong I'm 100% taking Bosa over him, 100% against trading down if Bosa's on the board but Shanny has had success with Andre, Julio, Gordon. I'm not seeing how Metcalf is going to be a problem in his offense.

He was in Cleveland for one year. Gordon played 5 games 24 ctaches, 303 yards 0 TDs.

As for Julio and Andre, DK only compares to them in measurements. Both of those Wrs were complete WRs. there really isn't any comparison. I just don't see him as a fit in kyle's scheme. But not only that I don't see him as a fit with any of our QBs. Which to me is even more important thatn Kyle's scheme.

As for the comparison of the 3 in general. When Julio and Andre played you knew you were watching 2 great WRs you see them dominate games. Same with Calvin Johnson in College you just seen how great he was going to be. Can't really say that about DK all you can say is he's big and fast. He never really dominated anything. Except the combine!

Originally posted by krizay:

He was in Cleveland for one year. Gordon played 5 games 24 ctaches, 303 yards 0 TDs.

As for Julio and Andre, DK only compares to them in measurements. Both of those Wrs were complete WRs. there really isn't any comparison. I just don't see him as a fit in kyle's scheme. But not only that I don't see him as a fit with any of our QBs. Which to me is even more important thatn Kyle's scheme.

As for the comparison of the 3 in general. When Julio and Andre played you knew you were watching 2 great WRs you see them dominate games. Same with Calvin Johnson in College you just seen how great he was going to be. Can't really say that about DK all you can say is he's big and fast. He never really dominated anything. Except the combine!

Metcalf was productive before he went down. He's coming out as a red shirted sophomore who spent much of that time injured.

I use the Gordon comparison and he had 1 700 yard season in college. Measurables matter. As for him and Shanny yeah that's a small sample size but it was going well.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Metcalf was productive before he went down. He's coming out as a red shirted sophomore who spent much of that time injured.

I use the Gordon comparison and he had 1 700 yard season in college. Measurables matter.

Productive isn't dominating. At his size in college he should be dominating. If you watch the LSU game i posted on previous game see how much bigger he is than Greedy williams you'll see far from domination. You'll also see 3 drops in just that game alone. But that's another topic.

Good WR but like Vernon Davis, just because you're big and fast doesn't make you a mismatch or matchup nightmare. (i know you weren't the one who touted that but...). You actually have to play big and fast to be that and neither player did/does.

Originally posted by krizay:

Productive isn't dominating. At his size in college he should be dominating. If you watch the LSU game i posted on previous game see how much bigger he is than Greedy williams you'll see far from domination. You'll also see 3 drops in just that game alone. But that's another topic.

Good WR but like Vernon Davis, just because you're big and fast doesn't make you a mismatch or matchup nightmare. (i know you weren't the one who touted that but...). You actually have to play big and fast to be that and neither player did/does.

So you're saying a few drops killed what would be a good game against LSU. I'll live with that. I seem to recall TO dropping a bunch of passes. He was on pace 1100 yards 10+ td's before the injury while sharing the load with another 1st.

Here's a really good breakdown of Metcalf. I like the comparison to a more explosive Demaryius Thomas. He's not a great route runner or very flexible but he can definitely work on that if he cuts out some of the lifting. Butler is a really interesting prospect as well who could fall to our second round pick.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-combine-d-k-metcalf-dominates-in-indy-but-his-game-day-outlook-isnt-as-easy-an-evaluation/amp/

I think he would develop phenomenally in Kyles offense, but he's not our pick unless we trade down. There's so much amazing defensive talent st the top he still may slip further than I was thinking a week ago.

Wasn't there a knock on negations agility as well?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yeah he did break his neck...

Just asked @dkmetcalf14⁩ about crying on Combine floor while talking to his mom following the 40. "Very emotional," he said. "I'm not supposed to be here right now." DK said a C-3 fracture cut his 2018 season short. His faith, he said, guided him thru.
And what a day he had. pic.twitter.com/qajpX92kKY

— Kimberly Jones (@KimJonesSports) March 2, 2019

So no credit to the doctors just to his faith sounds about right.

Ha

Short version is it's not healthy to have that little body fat.

Didnt watch the video, but he is no where near 1.6. I'd say 7 or 8% BF with that lack of vascularity

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
What about don hutson? And jerry rice?

Hutson is wayyyyy before my time. No idea on his college career.

Rice played Division 1-AA football, so he was no where close to being considered a top prospect. His 40-time was reportedly a 4.7. As far as draft stock, Rice was probably similar to Crabtree. A crazy productive wide-receiver in college that some questioned the circumstances of, and some questionable athletic talent.

Watch ARZ and Oakland swap and the Cards take DK at 4

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Didnt watch the video, but he is no where near 1.6. I'd say 7 or 8% BF with that lack of vascularity

ya I don't know how they got that 1.6 number

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Didnt watch the video, but he is no where near 1.6. I'd say 7 or 8% BF with that lack of vascularity

This. People talking about how he has lower bodyfat than competitive bodybuilders....GTFO with that