DK Metcalf

Originally posted by Scottie15:

I'll take AJ Brown and Deebo over this one trick pony.

Me too

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by okdkid:
It's fine the Niners passed on him. Obviously, Shanahan has his type and filled it well with Samuel. But it's obvious Metcalf has a chance to be a great (elite?) WR in the next couple years. People acting like he's anything less than a great WR are just being stubborn. He's got 900 yards and 7 TDs in his rookie year!

This dude is going to put up a 1400 & 10 season and a few of these dudes will be like "yeah, okay but he's so stiff!"

Agreed. This shouldn't be about Deebo and us. Deebo is a stud and we have a top ranked o. But so many got caught up in what he couldn't do then looked past that He's 6'3 230 with one of the quickest 1st steps ever recorded. Like that isn't going to be an advantage.

Who wants a 6'3" 230 lb. beast who can run a 4.3? Who needs that when you can have small WR's instead? Lets give that to Russell Wilson.

It wasn't a given that he would be succeeded in the NFL. His 3-cone drill and 20 yard shuttle were 7.38 and 4.5 respectively, which were ridiculously terrible for a WR. For comparison purposes, Joe Staley ran 7.09 and 4.4 respectively. Even Tom Brady ran 7.2 and 4.38 in those two drills.

Shanahan values speed, but he loves short-area quickness. DK Metcalf, being a straight-line player, simply doesn't fit Kyle's offense.

Plus, if it was so obvious that Metcalf would be a star, he wouldn't have fall to the end of the 2nd round in the 2019 NFL draft.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Dude had less than 100 yards more than Deebo and played 1 more game. Add in Deebo's rushing yards and he has more total yards and only 1 less TD.

But people in here acting like Deebo sucks because he's not as big as Metcalf.

Webzone logic bruh. It's how some get down on here

He fits Wilson's wide open style of play. Wilson makes most of his big plays either scrambling for a first down or throwing on the run for a big play downfield. Metcalf with his size and speed is perfect for that.

Isn't there a term in psychology for this? Some kind of envy where you are always envious of what someone else has, totally ignoring what you have yourself, no matter how good.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Isn't there a term in psychology for this? Some kind of envy where you are always envious of what someone else has, totally ignoring what you have yourself, no matter how good.

Yes.

There is also confirmation bias and selection bias happening by people who made their mind up on Metcalf pre-draft and hold onto those opinions despite overwhelming new evidence.

I don't know why this is a Samuel vs. Metcalf issue. Everybody is happy with Samuel.

Pretty clear this is purely an issue of confirmation and selection bias by those who refuse to admit Metcalf also has everything it takes to be an elite WR in the NFL in any system.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Isn't there a term in psychology for this? Some kind of envy where you are always envious of what someone else has, totally ignoring what you have yourself, no matter how good.

It's the same thing that makes fans worry about every game. I'm sure Vikings fans are worried that they have to go on the road and play against a high powered offense. It's what fans do. Over react and worry. Great to be a fan.

Yea. It's like guys seem to forget all about this little thing called coaching. Seattle did a great job coaching the guy up and working on his weaknesses. Sometime we seem to access certain guys as if his combine and workout numbers is a finished product. Some guys are raw and need that nfl coaching to excel

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Scottie15:
I'll take AJ Brown and Deebo over this one trick pony.

Me too

in this case .... I think all three teams are ecstatic with these wide receivers. some on here just like the look of Metcalf , if you know what I mean lol. all these rookies have been very productive and we have the most explosive one of all

Originally posted by okdkid:
Yes.

There is also confirmation bias and selection bias happening by people who made their mind up on Metcalf pre-draft and hold onto those opinions despite overwhelming new evidence.

I don't know why this is a Samuel vs. Metcalf issue. Everybody is happy with Samuel.

Pretty clear this is purely an issue of confirmation and selection bias by those who refuse to admit Metcalf also has everything it takes to be an elite WR in the NFL in any system.

Sure as heck wasn't me (go to the first page or two of this thread). I don't think there's anything wrong saying play A is better for team B and visa versa. His skill set is made for Wilson and his style of football (got guys on FOX radio talking about it today as well). I disagree he's an elite WR in any system BUT he's got a chance to be very good in Seattle... end of the day that's all that matters for the franchise and him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:

It's fine the Niners passed on him. Obviously, Shanahan has his type and filled it well with Samuel. But it's obvious Metcalf has a chance to be a great (elite?) WR in the next couple years. People acting like he's anything less than a great WR are just being stubborn. He's got 900 yards and 7 TDs in his rookie year!

This dude is going to put up a 1400 & 10 season and a few of these dudes will be like "yeah, okay but he's so stiff!"

Its simply a matter of scheme fit nothing more. He's not a awful WR or anything but he went to a offense with a QB that fit his skill set.

I'd take Deebo and Brown over him all day for THIS scheme.

Good on DK, he should be happy he went where he did regardless of him being a 2nd rd pick.

Dude put up 900 yards and 7 TD's as a rookie. He is going to post 1,400 and 12 TD's when he figures out what he is doing. Plus he has Russell Wilson throwing to him.

Metcalf is a monster. He could have been our monster. He is a bigger, faster, stronger TO. Just unbelievable Seattle and Russell Wilson got him.

But he can't run a cone drill fast.....

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:
It's fine the Niners passed on him. Obviously, Shanahan has his type and filled it well with Samuel. But it's obvious Metcalf has a chance to be a great (elite?) WR in the next couple years. People acting like he's anything less than a great WR are just being stubborn. He's got 900 yards and 7 TDs in his rookie year!

This dude is going to put up a 1400 & 10 season and a few of these dudes will be like "yeah, okay but he's so stiff!"

Its simply a matter of scheme fit nothing more. He's not a awful WR or anything but he went to a offense with a QB that fit his skill set.

I'd take Deebo and Brown over him all day for THIS scheme.

Good on DK, he should be happy he went where he did regardless of him being a 2nd rd pick.

Dude put up 900 yards and 7 TD's as a rookie. He is going to post 1,400 and 12 TD's when he figures out what he is doing. Plus he has Russell Wilson throwing to him.

Metcalf is a monster. He could have been our monster. He is a bigger, faster, stronger TO. Just unbelievable Seattle and Russell Wilson got him.

But he can't run a cone drill fast.....

This is an asinine take. TO? have you actually watched a lot of his games? Yes he can run straight and fast and is a big target, so he fits Russ' style of play perfectly. He has not displayed any kind of YAC ability that you'd normally associate with guys of his physical stature (unlike TO, or the Julios of the world). Philly's defense is compromised and most of his catches were fairly wide open where he just had to run. He wouldn't fit in the niners' offense at all.

"A bigger faster stronger TO'" said by somebody who seemingly never watched TO play. Come on. Lockett is a far more dangerous receiver than Metcalf.

Originally posted by bsyde82:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:

It's fine the Niners passed on him. Obviously, Shanahan has his type and filled it well with Samuel. But it's obvious Metcalf has a chance to be a great (elite?) WR in the next couple years. People acting like he's anything less than a great WR are just being stubborn. He's got 900 yards and 7 TDs in his rookie year!

This dude is going to put up a 1400 & 10 season and a few of these dudes will be like "yeah, okay but he's so stiff!"

Its simply a matter of scheme fit nothing more. He's not a awful WR or anything but he went to a offense with a QB that fit his skill set.

I'd take Deebo and Brown over him all day for THIS scheme.

Good on DK, he should be happy he went where he did regardless of him being a 2nd rd pick.

Dude put up 900 yards and 7 TD's as a rookie. He is going to post 1,400 and 12 TD's when he figures out what he is doing. Plus he has Russell Wilson throwing to him.

Metcalf is a monster. He could have been our monster. He is a bigger, faster, stronger TO. Just unbelievable Seattle and Russell Wilson got him.

But he can't run a cone drill fast.....

This is an asinine take. TO? have you actually watched a lot of his games? Yes he can run straight and fast and is a big target, so he fits Russ' style of play perfectly. He has not displayed any kind of YAC ability that you'd normally associate with guys of his physical stature (unlike TO, or the Julios of the world). Philly's defense is compromised and most of his catches were fairly wide open where he just had to run. He wouldn't fit in the niners' offense at all.

"A bigger faster stronger TO'" said by somebody who seemingly never watched TO play. Come on. Lockett is a far more dangerous receiver than Metcalf.

He looks pretty dangerous to me. Even in the playoffs in his first opportunity. Did you see the big numbers and huge plays he put up?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Dude put up 900 yards and 7 TD's as a rookie. He is going to post 1,400 and 12 TD's when he figures out what he is doing. Plus he has Russell Wilson throwing to him.

Metcalf is a monster. He could have been our monster. He is a bigger, faster, stronger TO. Just unbelievable Seattle and Russell Wilson got him.

But he can't run a cone drill fast.....

figure out what he's doing? I mean his job is pretty simple in that offense lol. He runs like 3 routes. IMHO he wouldn't have 900 yards and 7 TDs in this offense. Kyle's scheme is about timing and separating fast (not just a go-route). Again he's in a great place that will maximize his skill set. Their passing game is based around Wilson scrambling and throwing bombs downfield. It's not a bunch of timing routes. DK would also do well in a bruce arians offense. WCO? wouldn't be as affective IMO. That's not to say he's bad at all.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He looks pretty dangerous to me. Even in the playoffs in his first opportunity. Did you see the big numbers and huge plays he put up?

did you see who the CBs were? did you see the play calls on defense? Again it's more than wow he put up big numbers.

IMO the "big" WR they missed on was Cortland Sutton (would have had to show up) He's turning into a complete WR.