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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
12 days until the 49ers draft Quinnen Williams!
Bosa.
Originally posted by mayo49:I like QW, but I like Bosa better.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:12 days until the 49ers draft Quinnen Williams!
Welcome to No. 1, Quinnen Williams.
A change this late in the process deserves an explanation. It's not as simple as a handful of general managers telling me I'm wrong—in fact, many I talked to said the opposite about my original pick—but more about going with what the evaluation says. What makes Williams the better prospect? It boiled down to two factors:
1. Nick Bosa has incurred two injuries in four years.
A core muscle injury suffered in Week 3 shut Bosa down for the rest of the 2018 college football season. And while many will point to the belief he could have returned to the Buckeyes had they made the College Football Playoff, it's still a season-ending setback that must be evaluated. Bosa, as a senior in high school, also injured his knee and had surgery to repair a partially torn ACL.
Nick Bosa's still an elite, No. 1-worthy talent, but his durability is a concern.
Injured players have a way of staying injured. It's the same reason D.K. Metcalf and Marquise Brown take hits on my big board. Two fairly major injuries in four seasons is enough to bump Bosa just enough to let Williams overtake him.
2. Quinnen Williams hasn't reached his potential.
A first-year starter as a redshirt sophomore, Williams played well enough that he should have received serious Heisman Trophy consideration in 2018. His eight sacks and 19.5 tackles for a loss showed his dominance, and at only 21 years old as of December 21, Williams is still growing and developing as a player.
It's easy to look at Bosa and see a grown man who is already at his physical peak thanks to years of training with his brother, Joey (No. 3 overall pick, 2016 draft), and father, John (No. 16 overall pick, 1987 draft). Bosa hit the genetic lottery and comes from a long line of football players. We have a good idea of who Nick can be thanks to Joey, who has also suffered injuries.
With Williams, there is no known ceiling. He has the athleticism, work ethic and strength to continue to improve. You hear the term "maxed out" in scouting. Bosa is maxed out. Williams is just getting started.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Matt Miller has a new #1.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2830785-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-2019-big-board-has-a-new-top-draft-prospect
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Matt Miller has a new #1.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2830785-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-2019-big-board-has-a-new-top-draft-prospect
Welcome to No. 1, Quinnen Williams.
A change this late in the process deserves an explanation. It's not as simple as a handful of general managers telling me I'm wrong—in fact, many I talked to said the opposite about my original pick—but more about going with what the evaluation says. What makes Williams the better prospect? It boiled down to two factors:
1. Nick Bosa has incurred two injuries in four years.
A core muscle injury suffered in Week 3 shut Bosa down for the rest of the 2018 college football season. And while many will point to the belief he could have returned to the Buckeyes had they made the College Football Playoff, it's still a season-ending setback that must be evaluated. Bosa, as a senior in high school, also injured his knee and had surgery to repair a partially torn ACL.
Nick Bosa's still an elite, No. 1-worthy talent, but his durability is a concern.
Injured players have a way of staying injured. It's the same reason D.K. Metcalf and Marquise Brown take hits on my big board. Two fairly major injuries in four seasons is enough to bump Bosa just enough to let Williams overtake him.
2. Quinnen Williams hasn't reached his potential.
A first-year starter as a redshirt sophomore, Williams played well enough that he should have received serious Heisman Trophy consideration in 2018. His eight sacks and 19.5 tackles for a loss showed his dominance, and at only 21 years old as of December 21, Williams is still growing and developing as a player.
It's easy to look at Bosa and see a grown man who is already at his physical peak thanks to years of training with his brother, Joey (No. 3 overall pick, 2016 draft), and father, John (No. 16 overall pick, 1987 draft). Bosa hit the genetic lottery and comes from a long line of football players. We have a good idea of who Nick can be thanks to Joey, who has also suffered injuries.
With Williams, there is no known ceiling. He has the athleticism, work ethic and strength to continue to improve. You hear the term "maxed out" in scouting. Bosa is maxed out. Williams is just getting started.
Originally posted by random49er:
Seems like an excuse to bump him down when the bump is for other obvious reasons.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Matt Miller has a new #1.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2830785-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-2019-big-board-has-a-new-top-draft-prospect
Welcome to No. 1, Quinnen Williams.
A change this late in the process deserves an explanation. It's not as simple as a handful of general managers telling me I'm wrong—in fact, many I talked to said the opposite about my original pick—but more about going with what the evaluation says. What makes Williams the better prospect? It boiled down to two factors:
1. Nick Bosa has incurred two injuries in four years.
A core muscle injury suffered in Week 3 shut Bosa down for the rest of the 2018 college football season. And while many will point to the belief he could have returned to the Buckeyes had they made the College Football Playoff, it's still a season-ending setback that must be evaluated. Bosa, as a senior in high school, also injured his knee and had surgery to repair a partially torn ACL.
Nick Bosa's still an elite, No. 1-worthy talent, but his durability is a concern.
Injured players have a way of staying injured. It's the same reason D.K. Metcalf and Marquise Brown take hits on my big board. Two fairly major injuries in four seasons is enough to bump Bosa just enough to let Williams overtake him.
2. Quinnen Williams hasn't reached his potential.
A first-year starter as a redshirt sophomore, Williams played well enough that he should have received serious Heisman Trophy consideration in 2018. His eight sacks and 19.5 tackles for a loss showed his dominance, and at only 21 years old as of December 21, Williams is still growing and developing as a player.
It's easy to look at Bosa and see a grown man who is already at his physical peak thanks to years of training with his brother, Joey (No. 3 overall pick, 2016 draft), and father, John (No. 16 overall pick, 1987 draft). Bosa hit the genetic lottery and comes from a long line of football players. We have a good idea of who Nick can be thanks to Joey, who has also suffered injuries.
With Williams, there is no known ceiling. He has the athleticism, work ethic and strength to continue to improve. You hear the term "maxed out" in scouting. Bosa is maxed out. Williams is just getting started.
Originally posted by BuZzB05:Pass on Quinnen Williams and Nick Bosa!!
Originally posted by illinois9er:Originally posted by BuZzB05:Pass on Quinnen Williams and Nick Bosa!!
Who else do you pick at #2?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Matt Miller has a new #1.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2830785-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-2019-big-board-has-a-new-top-draft-prospect
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Matt Miller has a new #1.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2830785-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-2019-big-board-has-a-new-top-draft-prospect
Welcome to No. 1, Quinnen Williams.
A change this late in the process deserves an explanation. It's not as simple as a handful of general managers telling me I'm wrong—in fact, many I talked to said the opposite about my original pick—but more about going with what the evaluation says. What makes Williams the better prospect? It boiled down to two factors:
1. Nick Bosa has incurred two injuries in four years.
A core muscle injury suffered in Week 3 shut Bosa down for the rest of the 2018 college football season. And while many will point to the belief he could have returned to the Buckeyes had they made the College Football Playoff, it's still a season-ending setback that must be evaluated. Bosa, as a senior in high school, also injured his knee and had surgery to repair a partially torn ACL.
Nick Bosa's still an elite, No. 1-worthy talent, but his durability is a concern.
Injured players have a way of staying injured. It's the same reason D.K. Metcalf and Marquise Brown take hits on my big board. Two fairly major injuries in four seasons is enough to bump Bosa just enough to let Williams overtake him.
2. Quinnen Williams hasn't reached his potential.
A first-year starter as a redshirt sophomore, Williams played well enough that he should have received serious Heisman Trophy consideration in 2018. His eight sacks and 19.5 tackles for a loss showed his dominance, and at only 21 years old as of December 21, Williams is still growing and developing as a player.
It's easy to look at Bosa and see a grown man who is already at his physical peak thanks to years of training with his brother, Joey (No. 3 overall pick, 2016 draft), and father, John (No. 16 overall pick, 1987 draft). Bosa hit the genetic lottery and comes from a long line of football players. We have a good idea of who Nick can be thanks to Joey, who has also suffered injuries.
With Williams, there is no known ceiling. He has the athleticism, work ethic and strength to continue to improve. You hear the term "maxed out" in scouting. Bosa is maxed out. Williams is just getting started.
I agree with most of what you said and I would take Williams if tackle was our biggest need, but we've been looking for an elite edge rusher since Aldon left and I just can't see passing on Bosa unless there is a really good trade opportunity. We may not get this chance again for some time since we don't know what the future holds. Worst case scenario is Bosa is just good but not great. That would still be an upgrade from what we have. I'm not concerned about injuries since they can happen at any time to any player. You can't worry about that unless the guy is still injured and his future is in doubt. I'm tired of going into every off season looking for the same positions (edge rusher, corner or safety and wide receiver) and not coming away with a quality player at any of those spots.
