Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Your post was way more eloquent than mine lol

I totally disagree they're replacement players.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Day was literally signed off the street. Guys better than him get cut and signed every single day. He's a depth guy, nothing more. If the 49ers cut him tomorrow, they wouldn't skip a beat. He's like the Cassius Marsh of DT's.

Jones hasn't proven much in the NFL. So far he looks like a solid backup NT. Certainly nothing to declare him starter caliber.

Basically its Buckner at DT, Armstead at 5T for a year and then we all hope that Thomas can come around. Beyond that, a bunch of replacement level players and an unknown ACL project in Street.

Day is a great rotational player and played well when given snaps...Not sure how you could say he couldn't start on say the cards or other teams.

49ers held Jaguars, No. 1 rushing team in NFL, to 3.3 ypc thanks to violent defense like this. Both Reuben Foster and Sheldon Day do something they'd already done before: Crush Leonard Fournette. On the same play. pic.twitter.com/DsTQ1zVRuM

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 25, 2017

Sheldon Day had a great game on Sunday pic.twitter.com/PWLjoBV5zf

— Nicholas McGee (@nicholasmcgee24) September 20, 2018

Jones also showed he could play.

Looks like DJ Jones been watching some Rankins film. #49ers https://t.co/J5uZI04t3v pic.twitter.com/mKPNSsrpZR

— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) December 18, 2018

DJ Jones had a very strong game against Denver and was a key reason why Phillip Lindsay couldn't get much going on the ground. pic.twitter.com/43b02AYJzw

— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) December 12, 2018

There's a whole video breakdown of Thomas in the NT thread of him at DT.

Man just hating on all our young DTs who played well when given snaps because you love you some Q. He's a great talent but we have a ton of good young DTs.

I'd be disappointed if they traded Day w/out a better replacement...same goes for Blair. I'd cut Day before Blair. Both those guys are solid in rotation.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Day is a great rotational player and played well when given snaps...Not sure how you could say he couldn't start on say the cards or other teams.


There's a whole video breakdown of Thomas in the NT thread of him at DT.

Man just hating on all our young DTs who played well when given snaps because you love you some Q.

Marsh had some nice moments too. I think mostly you're overrating some average to below average talent. There isn't a single DT other than Buckner that couldn't be easily replaced. Armstead is fantastic for his role but he's not even really a DT in this defense and will be gone next year regardless of who they draft.




DT's with run stopping ability and minimal pass rush ability are a dime-a-dozen in the NFL. You could cut Day tomorrow, replace him with another FA off the street and be the same.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I totally disagree they're replacement players.

But they are, no different than Marsh. They are fine as depth but won't stop you from looking for someone better. High quality DTs don't wind up on the street during the middle of the season.


You think the 49ers would give Day a big money extension?

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes we all know this

Dude has been a saint since going to college, yes he shouldn't have hit that women, but I also don't hate the man for defending his sister.

Let him sit a yr, find out what we have with Thomas and we can get our money out of AA for a yr.

Dude was regarded as a top 5 prospect before the injury.

OR we just don't upgrade DT and get quality talent at positions of need to make the team better overall

I don't give a crap if he's been Mother Teresa, when there is a video of you pummeling the hell out of a woman, I don't want you on this team. And that was before the ACL situation.

Smh Do not draft.

That's disgusting. Don't draft him.

Was he hitting her for real. I know that even soft punches could hurt coming from a huge dude just because the weight alone. But it looked like he was playing around and the lady didn't even look messed up (moving around).

LOL that fat lady look like she might hurt herself just by trying to walk, wtf was she doing?!! F**king comical these folks here

Originally posted by LVJay:

I'd be disappointed if they traded Day w/out a better replacement...same goes for Blair. I'd cut Day before Blair. Both those guys are solid in rotation.

Solid is another word for average. If this team didn't have Buckner, DT would look like a mess.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I totally disagree they're replacement players.

But they are, no different than Marsh. They are fine as depth but won't stop you from looking for someone better. High quality DTs don't wind up on the street during the middle of the season.


You think the 49ers would give Day a big money extension?

I agree with Phoenix here. Nobody is lining up to take these guys from us. Thomas, AA, Jones, street. Young guys on rookie deals to keep.

We can get rid of the rest and even one of them mentioned above if need be. Don't forget this assuming QW is starting next to Buck.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Marsh had some nice moments too. I think mostly you're overrating some average to below average talent. There isn't a single DT other than Buckner that couldn't be easily replaced. Armstead is fantastic for his role but he's not even really a DT in this defense and will be gone next year regardless of who they draft.




DT's with run stopping ability and minimal pass rush ability are a dime-a-dozen in the NFL. You could cut Day tomorrow, replace him with another FA off the street and be the same.

Our "replacement" DTs had SF as the 7 overall run D in YPA.

They also made up almost 50% of our total sacks last yr.

Again you can NOT convince me that our DT Corp is even remotely close to as bad as our edge group.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

But they are, no different than Marsh. They are fine as depth but won't stop you from looking for someone better. High quality DTs don't wind up on the street during the middle of the season.


You think the 49ers would give Day a big money extension?

Who says they have to give Day a big money extension? He's a good rotational player that played well when given a chance, same with Jones.

I'm not saying any of these guys are better than Q. I'm saying out DTs group was worlds better than our edge group. You could say out IDL is the best group on either side of the ball.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I totally disagree they're replacement players.

But they are, no different than Marsh. They are fine as depth but won't stop you from looking for someone better. High quality DTs don't wind up on the street during the middle of the season.


You think the 49ers would give Day a big money extension?

I agree with Phoenix here. Nobody is lining up to take these guys from us. Thomas, AA, Jones, street. Young guys on rookie deals to keep.

We can get rid of the rest and even one of them mentioned above if need be. Don't forget this assuming QW is starting next to Buck.

Thing is with Buckner, Ford and say Bosa you don't need an all pro to make plays next to those guys. Thomas still has a chance to reach his legit potential, who knows how much his sisters suicide affected his play, not to mention the constant out of position snaps he was getting. Getting Bosa let's those guys play where suits them best.

I'm sure people will be ok if Thomas is allowed to move inside and finally plays close to his draft status? I understand you don't want to rely on him since end of the day it may never work out but once again...Buckner is there as well. It's not relying on Thomas to carry the unit. Even if he's just solid with Bosa, Buckner, Ford we're scary. If he comes close to his potential we have the best front in the league.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

I agree with Phoenix here. Nobody is lining up to take these guys from us. Thomas, AA, Jones, street. Young guys on rookie deals to keep.

We can get rid of the rest and even one of them mentioned above if need be. Don't forget this assuming QW is starting next to Buck.

Who saying ST or Streets are available for teams? What happens if Ford gets hurt again? We got some 2nd/3rd rd guy and Blair coming off the edge, da f**k?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LVJay:
I'd be disappointed if they traded Day w/out a better replacement...same goes for Blair. I'd cut Day before Blair. Both those guys are solid in rotation.

Solid is another word for average. If this team didn't have Buckner, DT would look like a mess.

Nah. C'mon, stop, bruh. Stop.

Elite


Solid


Average

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
But they are, no different than Marsh. They are fine as depth but won't stop you from looking for someone better. High quality DTs don't wind up on the street during the middle of the season.

You think the 49ers would give Day a big money extension?

Who says they have to give Day a big money extension? He's a good rotational player that played well when given a chance, same with Jones.

I'm not saying any of these guys are better than Q. I'm saying out DTs group was worlds better than our edge group. You could say out IDL is the best group on either side of the ball.

He also was inactive the last 4-5 games. He went from from rotational piece to not even dressing. Something happened for Saleh to sour on him that fast to that extent.

It wasn't just Solly getting more snaps inside either.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Solid is another word for average. If this team didn't have Buckner, DT would look like a mess.

But we do...and we have two other 1st rd picks rotating in that other DT spot in sub. (Plus all the "avg"young DTs) if AA balls why can't they sign him?

We got a 5th rd edge rusher in his contract yr and a guy who's got back issues coming off the edge currently....you know what would be a real mess is if Ford gets hurt. All that interior pass rush goes out the window with no edge pressure.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I totally disagree they're replacement players.

But they are, no different than Marsh. They are fine as depth but won't stop you from looking for someone better. High quality DTs don't wind up on the street during the middle of the season.


You think the 49ers would give Day a big money extension?

I agree with Phoenix here. Nobody is lining up to take these guys from us. Thomas, AA, Jones, street. Young guys on rookie deals to keep.

We can get rid of the rest and even one of them mentioned above if need be. Don't forget this assuming QW is starting next to Buck.

Thing is with Buckner, Ford and say Bosa you don't need an all pro to make plays next to those guys. Thomas still has a chance to reach his legit potential, who knows how much his sisters suicide affected his play, not to mention the constant out of position snaps he was getting. Getting Bosa let's those guys play where suits them best.

I'm sure people will be ok if Thomas is allowed to move inside and finally plays close to his draft status? I understand you don't want to rely on him since end of the day it may never work out but once again...Buckner is there as well. It's not relying on Thomas to carry the unit. Even if he's just solid with Bosa, Buckner, Ford we're scary. If he comes close to his potential we have the best front in the league.

Oh I'm a big fan of Thomas staying inside. That's why I want Bosa. Imo that's our best lineup with great depth to match. I think thomas will do great if played inside where he belongs. Ford-Thomas-Buck-Bosa would absolutely wreck o-lines.

I would even argue to double dip and take Winovich in the second if he's there regardless of who we draft in the first. Because you really can not ever have enough pass rush.

The problem imo is if Bosa goes one you take QW. He's that good of a prospect. And based on how they drafted this is what they do. They take BPA. We didn't need thomas, but they thought him special. That's how i feel about QW.

Otherwise take Allen and believe (lol) Saleh will scheme them all.....