Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama

Originally posted by crusher49er:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:

I think they take Allen over Quinnen.

Phoenix, what are they going to do with AA and ST if they take Williams?

probably trade AA for a 3rd-4th rd

If any team would give us a 3 or 4 for AA I'd deliver him to them myself lol

Originally posted by mayo49:

Phoenix, what are they going to do with AA and ST if they take Williams?

What are they going to do with AA if they draft Bosa?

Eitherway he's gone in a year.



You don't pass on talent for need. The Rams reportedly had Khalil Mack as the #1 player on their draft board. They opted for Greg Robinson since they needed a tackle. Now Mack is an All Pro and Robinson isn't even on the Rams roster. Imagine what havoc Mack and Donald would be wreaking right now? But the Rams had Robert Quinn so edge wasn't a need.



If you're Lynch you'd better walk out with Bosa, Williams or a MASSIVE bounty of picks from a tradedown.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

I'm beginning to feel sad for you. Do you have support people availacle for you Thursday evening?

I'm not going to celebrate THAT much but your concern is duly noted.

Finally on the Bosa train, welcome aboard. We'll celebrate together!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Phoenix, what are they going to do with AA and ST if they take Williams?

What are they going to do with AA if they draft Bosa?

Eitherway he's gone in a year.

You don't pass on talent for need. The Rams reportedly had Khalil Mack as the #1 player on their draft board. They opted for Greg Robinson since they needed a tackle. Now Mack is an All Pro and Robinson isn't even on the Rams roster. Imagine what havoc Mack and Donald would be wreaking right now? But the Rams had Robert Quinn so edge wasn't a need.

If you're Lynch you'd better walk out with Bosa, Williams or a MASSIVE bounty of picks from a tradedown.

What about ST - are they going to move him outside again?

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Finally on the Bosa train, welcome aboard. We'll celebrate together!

Kinda weird that you'll be
celebrating him playing for the Cardinals but its cool, people are into all kinds of freaky stuff nowadays. I don't judge.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

What are they going to do with AA if they draft Bosa?

Eitherway he's gone in a year.



You don't pass on talent for need. The Rams reportedly had Khalil Mack as the #1 player on their draft board. They opted for Greg Robinson since they needed a tackle. Now Mack is an All Pro and Robinson isn't even on the Rams roster. Imagine what havoc Mack and Donald would be wreaking right now? But the Rams had Robert Quinn so edge wasn't a need.



If you're Lynch you'd better walk out with Bosa, Williams or a MASSIVE bounty of picks from a tradedown.

Khalil Mack Is another guy who was "maxed" out coming out of college as well. He turned out just fine

Originally posted by NYniner85:

You think Williams will get faster quicker as he getting bigger? I don't

I just think he's going to be great!

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

You think Williams will get faster quicker as he getting bigger? I don't

I just think he's going to be great!

I don't doubt it....I think Bosa will be great as well and plays a more impactful position.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Phoenix, what are they going to do with AA and ST if they take Williams?

Move one to the bench or to another roster. You draft an AllPro talent at number 2 overall. No ifs ands or buts about it

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

You think Williams will get faster quicker as he getting bigger? I don't

I just think he's going to be great!

I don't doubt it....I think Bosa will be great as well and plays a more impactful position.

Can't have an impact from IR list

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Khalil Mack Is another guy who was "maxed" out coming out of college as well. He turned out just fine

We can only wish Bosa could be a Khalil Mack. If he is then I'd take him over Q given our need but the problem is that I'm not seeing Bosa like I see Mack but if we pick him I hope that he is

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Is @QuinnenWilliams the best defensive player in the @NFLDraft? 🤔

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And Quenton Nelson was the best player in the draft last yr, YET Chubb got drafted over him. Positional value/impact matter. Roster construction matters.

That's a weird way to look at it - because guards and centers hardly ever get drafted that high but DTs do get drafted in top 10 in most drafts. Nelson was soooo good that he got drafted super high regardless of position.

You should compare Nelson to Mike McGlinchey. Who got drafted earlier? A Guard or a Tackle? Who is more impactful? Everyone will say a tackle is. But, Nelson was drafted before because he was sooo much better even though McGlinchey was rated pretty damn high as well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
People confuse maxed out frame with maxed out athlete. Not sure if we want Bosa ballooning up to 280 pounds anyways.

Its not just about frame. Bosa and Allen have had years to grow into their bodies. Its unlikely that they suddenly get noticeably more explosive when you consider theie conditioning.

Williams went on a kamikaze bulk to add 40 pounds in a single year. He can still greatly improve his overall conditioning leading to overall athletic improvement. You could see him add another 10 to 15 pounds of muscle over a few years and settle in around 300 to 305 pounds at a much lower bodyfat.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
People confuse maxed out frame with maxed out athlete. Not sure if we want Bosa ballooning up to 280 pounds anyways.

Its not just about frame. Bosa and Allen have had years to grow into their bodies. Its unlikely that they suddenly get noticeably more explosive when you consider theie conditioning.

Williams went on a kamikaze bulk to add 40 pounds in a single year. He can still greatly improve his overall conditioning leading to overall athletic improvement. You could see him add another 10 to 15 pounds of muscle over a few years and settle in around 300 to 305 pounds at a much lower bodyfat.

Allen weighed 230 last year and now weighs 262 so over 30 pounds he added, Quinnen added 40 pounds and Bosa has always been in the 260-270 range so how is Allen maxed out but Quinnen not

Originally posted by marc1_007:

Allen weighed 230 last year and now weighs 262 so over 30 pounds he added, Quinnen added 40 pounds and Bosa has always been in the 260-270 range so how are Allen maxed out but Quinnen not

Originally posted by marc1_007:

Allen weighed 230 last year and now weighs 262 so over 30 pounds he added, Quinnen added 40 pounds and Bosa has always been in the 260-270 range so how is Allen maxed out but Quinnen not

What is Allen going to do, add more weight and try to drop back into coverage at 285 pounds? His frame is pretty well filled out and he's obviously extremely well conditioned so its not like he'll get faster by dropping bodyfat.



Williams could lose 20 pounds of sloppy weight and replace that with another 15 to 20 pounds of muscle. Physically he's not close to a finished product compared to Bosa and Allen. He's already very impressive in terms of his athleticism but still has a lot of room for improvement.


Its unlikely that Bosa or Allen change much physically from this point on while you could see a much leaner and bigger QW in a few years.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

What are they going to do with AA if they draft Bosa?

Eitherway he's gone in a year.



You don't pass on talent for need. The Rams reportedly had Khalil Mack as the #1 player on their draft board. They opted for Greg Robinson since they needed a tackle. Now Mack is an All Pro and Robinson isn't even on the Rams roster. Imagine what havoc Mack and Donald would be wreaking right now? But the Rams had Robert Quinn so edge wasn't a need.



If you're Lynch you'd better walk out with Bosa, Williams or a MASSIVE bounty of picks from a trade down.

This is EXACTLY where I'm at.