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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
In 2016 Philly moved up from #8 to #2, this is what they gave up
Pick 8
3rd rounder
4th rounder
1st rounder the following year
2nd rounder two years later
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Interesting trade proposal off of NFL.com:
3) The Bills go after my highest-rated prospect
Buffalo Bills receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 2 overall)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 176)
San Francisco 49ers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 9)
-- 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 147)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 181)
-- 2020 first-round pick (valued at approximately pick No. 12)
Why it works for the Bills: With most mock drafts connecting Kyler Murray to the Cardinals at the first overall pick, and the Raiders sitting at No. 4 with several key needs (and the capital to move all over the draft board), the strategy for the 49ers at No. 2 and Jets at No. 3 is very interesting. Since trading with the Jets would be an in-division move, the Bills are more likely to work with the Niners on a deal. Should my model's highest-rated player, Quinnen Williams, be available at No. 2, the Bills could craft a trade for the Alabama defensive tackle and fill a huge team need; though, the trade would require giving up their first-round pick in 2020. I told you that my model is most focused on winning this season, but that doesn't mean it doesn't consider future seasons at all. Simply put, the opportunity to draft Williams is worth the future costs, given the premium at his position and the Bills' current roster.
Why it works for the 49ers: In this scenario, the Niners limit their odds of acquiring one of the premium pass rushers in the 2019 draft, but at ninth overall, they still have the ability to address their pass defense. With quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo returning from injury and the offseason defensive additions of Dee Ford and Kwon Alexander, the 49ers created options for this season and added value for 2020. Should they have a top-10 valuation on a corner (Deandre Baker is a CB my model likes for them), they could pull the trigger at No. 9. However, depending on the quarterback market (for example, do the Giants take a QB at No. 6?), San Francisco could spin this pick into even more draft capital, as the team would now sit one slot ahead of the Broncos, who could be in play for a young signal-caller.
Your thoughts? If I were Lynch, I would definitely have to think hard about doing this.
Originally posted by genus49:
Who made this trade suggestion so I can ignore their opinions moving forward?
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Interesting trade proposal off of NFL.com:
3) The Bills go after my highest-rated prospect
Buffalo Bills receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 2 overall)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 176)
San Francisco 49ers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 9)
-- 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 147)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 181)
-- 2020 first-round pick (valued at approximately pick No. 12)
Why it works for the Bills: With most mock drafts connecting Kyler Murray to the Cardinals at the first overall pick, and the Raiders sitting at No. 4 with several key needs (and the capital to move all over the draft board), the strategy for the 49ers at No. 2 and Jets at No. 3 is very interesting. Since trading with the Jets would be an in-division move, the Bills are more likely to work with the Niners on a deal. Should my model's highest-rated player, Quinnen Williams, be available at No. 2, the Bills could craft a trade for the Alabama defensive tackle and fill a huge team need; though, the trade would require giving up their first-round pick in 2020. I told you that my model is most focused on winning this season, but that doesn't mean it doesn't consider future seasons at all. Simply put, the opportunity to draft Williams is worth the future costs, given the premium at his position and the Bills' current roster.
Why it works for the 49ers: In this scenario, the Niners limit their odds of acquiring one of the premium pass rushers in the 2019 draft, but at ninth overall, they still have the ability to address their pass defense. With quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo returning from injury and the offseason defensive additions of Dee Ford and Kwon Alexander, the 49ers created options for this season and added value for 2020. Should they have a top-10 valuation on a corner (Deandre Baker is a CB my model likes for them), they could pull the trigger at No. 9. However, depending on the quarterback market (for example, do the Giants take a QB at No. 6?), San Francisco could spin this pick into even more draft capital, as the team would now sit one slot ahead of the Broncos, who could be in play for a young signal-caller.
Your thoughts? If I were Lynch, I would definitely have to think hard about doing this.
Who made this trade suggestion so I can ignore their opinions moving forward?
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Haha. It was Cynthia Frelund, NFL.com's analytics "expert". Laughable.
Originally posted by Jcool:Originally posted by Rathof44:Haha. It was Cynthia Frelund, NFL.com's analytics "expert". Laughable.
She has always been pretty bad.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Bosa is the least riskiest option.
If you take QW, you're pretty much one Dee Ford injury away from having a pretty similar defense to the past couple of years. With a good interior presence and nothing at the ends. The kind of defense that would get a defensive coordinator and a front office fired.
In fact, I would say that if you are dead set on QW, you don't have a choice. You have to trade up back into the 1st to target another edge player. And then punt on WR and Safety this year. Yes, I would give up our 3rd and 4th round pick to move back. That's how much I'd be worried about this. Ansah isn't the answer, and I don't think they're interested personally.
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Interesting trade proposal off of NFL.com:
3) The Bills go after my highest-rated prospect
Buffalo Bills receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 2 overall)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 176)
San Francisco 49ers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 9)
-- 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 147)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 181)
-- 2020 first-round pick (valued at approximately pick No. 12)
Why it works for the Bills: With most mock drafts connecting Kyler Murray to the Cardinals at the first overall pick, and the Raiders sitting at No. 4 with several key needs (and the capital to move all over the draft board), the strategy for the 49ers at No. 2 and Jets at No. 3 is very interesting. Since trading with the Jets would be an in-division move, the Bills are more likely to work with the Niners on a deal. Should my model's highest-rated player, Quinnen Williams, be available at No. 2, the Bills could craft a trade for the Alabama defensive tackle and fill a huge team need; though, the trade would require giving up their first-round pick in 2020. I told you that my model is most focused on winning this season, but that doesn't mean it doesn't consider future seasons at all. Simply put, the opportunity to draft Williams is worth the future costs, given the premium at his position and the Bills' current roster.
Why it works for the 49ers: In this scenario, the Niners limit their odds of acquiring one of the premium pass rushers in the 2019 draft, but at ninth overall, they still have the ability to address their pass defense. With quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo returning from injury and the offseason defensive additions of Dee Ford and Kwon Alexander, the 49ers created options for this season and added value for 2020. Should they have a top-10 valuation on a corner (Deandre Baker is a CB my model likes for them), they could pull the trigger at No. 9. However, depending on the quarterback market (for example, do the Giants take a QB at No. 6?), San Francisco could spin this pick into even more draft capital, as the team would now sit one slot ahead of the Broncos, who could be in play for a young signal-caller.
Your thoughts? If I were Lynch, I would definitely have to think hard about doing this.
Who made this trade suggestion so I can ignore their opinions moving forward?
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Haha. It was Cynthia Frelund, NFL.com's analytics "expert". Laughable.
She has always been pretty bad.
She had us taking DeAndre Baker at #2 overall in one of her mocks
Originally posted by Jcool:
She has always been pretty bad.
I mean this is who she mocked to the 49ers
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Interesting trade proposal off of NFL.com:
3) The Bills go after my highest-rated prospect
Buffalo Bills receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 2 overall)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 176)
San Francisco 49ers receive:
-- 2019 first-round pick (No. 9)
-- 2019 fifth-round pick (No. 147)
-- 2019 sixth-round pick (No. 181)
-- 2020 first-round pick (valued at approximately pick No. 12)
Why it works for the Bills: With most mock drafts connecting Kyler Murray to the Cardinals at the first overall pick, and the Raiders sitting at No. 4 with several key needs (and the capital to move all over the draft board), the strategy for the 49ers at No. 2 and Jets at No. 3 is very interesting. Since trading with the Jets would be an in-division move, the Bills are more likely to work with the Niners on a deal. Should my model's highest-rated player, Quinnen Williams, be available at No. 2, the Bills could craft a trade for the Alabama defensive tackle and fill a huge team need; though, the trade would require giving up their first-round pick in 2020. I told you that my model is most focused on winning this season, but that doesn't mean it doesn't consider future seasons at all. Simply put, the opportunity to draft Williams is worth the future costs, given the premium at his position and the Bills' current roster.
Why it works for the 49ers: In this scenario, the Niners limit their odds of acquiring one of the premium pass rushers in the 2019 draft, but at ninth overall, they still have the ability to address their pass defense. With quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo returning from injury and the offseason defensive additions of Dee Ford and Kwon Alexander, the 49ers created options for this season and added value for 2020. Should they have a top-10 valuation on a corner (Deandre Baker is a CB my model likes for them), they could pull the trigger at No. 9. However, depending on the quarterback market (for example, do the Giants take a QB at No. 6?), San Francisco could spin this pick into even more draft capital, as the team would now sit one slot ahead of the Broncos, who could be in play for a young signal-caller.
Your thoughts? If I were Lynch, I would definitely have to think hard about doing this.
Who made this trade suggestion so I can ignore their opinions moving forward?
Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by Jcool:She has always been pretty bad.
I mean this is who she mocked to the 49ers
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Cynthia Frelund on NFL.com. The same person who mocked DeAndre Baker to the Niners at #2. She's the analytics specialist.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Cynthia Frelund on NFL.com. The same person who mocked DeAndre Baker to the Niners at #2. She's the analytics specialist.
And well overpaid for the stuff she puts out.
Originally posted by Jcool:Originally posted by Rathof44:Haha. It was Cynthia Frelund, NFL.com's analytics "expert". Laughable.
She has always been pretty bad.
I mean this is who she mocked to the 49ers
