Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama

Originally posted by KamLeon:

I agree with the point that edge rusher is/was needed, also the point that we have quite the depth at DT, but you have to balance that with the quality of the player and of course whether that play has the ability to stay healthy, otherwise the only thing you have is a part time player that's injured more than he's healthy.

Rile other posters? By doing what? Asking who will play more games? That seems a bit much. I'm not trying to rile anyone, just making a legitimate point. So how is that an issue. I only posted the comparison in the QW thread keeping it out of the Bosa thread to clearly take the step to keep it away from the pro Bosa fans.

So you're saying posting opinions is not allowed in the rules?

You weren't just posting your opinion, were you? You were being argumentative and repetitive. No Bosa dude was man enough to stand behind the pick? Well, I stand behind it as I have already said. Let's move on.

This injury prone argument can go on forever. No player is immune to injury. Guys come in to the NFL that have never been seriously hurt and go down in their first game or practice. It happens. Sometimes once you're hurt you start getting injured again and again. Sometimes it's a one time thing. Unless you have some kind of genetic defect most injuries are just bad luck. Players rolling up on your leg or getting blindsided. Maybe you plant your leg wrong. Yes Bosa has been injured before but that doesn't mean he will keep getting hurt. We had 2 players that had serious early injuries and went on to have long successful careers. Frank Gore and Jesse Sapolu. Some guys get hurt once and are never the same. You can't tell what the future will hold for any of these guys. It often comes down to desire and hard work to overcome these injuries and those are 2 things Bosa has.

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Originally posted by KamLeon:

Originally posted by English:
But that isn't the point. It is quite clear that an edge rusher would have more impact than another interior lineman. Why? Because we had a dearth of one and a quantity of the other. So taking Williams would not have started to resolve our problem.

I stand behind the pick, and I also suggest you stop trying to rile other posters. Read the rules. Williams might play more games than Bosa this season. Might. But the impact that Bosa will have on the team will be more as a premier edge rusher than Williams would have had as a premier DT.

See how easy that was?

I agree with the point that edge rusher is/was needed, also the point that we have quite the depth at DT, but you have to balance that with the quality of the player and of course whether that play has the ability to stay healthy, otherwise the only thing you have is a part time player that's injured more than he's healthy.

Rile other posters? By doing what? Asking who will play more games? That seems a bit much. I'm not trying to rile anyone, just making a legitimate point. So how is that an issue. I only posted the comparison in the QW thread keeping it out of the Bosa thread to clearly take the step to keep it away from the pro Bosa fans.

So you're saying posting opinions is not allowed in the rules?

yes i too a victim of that same accusation " riling" other members because i had like you a different point of view on BOSA..... so now i may get ban or put in timeout because of my opinion.

can't believe we passed on this guy.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

can't believe we passed on this guy.

Totally, he's already made a huge impact for the Jets

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

can't believe we passed on this guy.

Lol, you're good dude

Word around camp is that QW has been so dominate the coach is considering fielding the first ever 1-6 alignment. That is, one dlineman (QW), two OLBs and the rest dbs. The thought is having ILBs is redundant with QW in the middle.

Meanwhile, back at Niner Camp, the FO has decided to resign Marsh as Bosa's hammy issue is projected to keep him out for his rookie season.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Word around camp is that QW has been so dominate the coach is considering fielding the first ever 1-6 alignment. That is, one dlineman (QW), two OLBs and the rest dbs. The thought is having ILBs is redundant with QW in the middle.

Meanwhile, back at Niner Camp, the FO has decided to resign Marsh as Bosa's hammy issues is projected to keeping him from his rookie season.

Oh damn got a link?

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
can't believe we passed on this guy.

Totally, he's already made a huge impact for the Jets

His biggest impact to date was getting his GM fired for picking him over Allen.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Word around camp is that QW has been so dominate the coach is considering fielding the first ever 1-6 alignment. That is, one dlineman (QW), two OLBs and the rest dbs. The thought is having ILBs is redundant with QW in the middle.

Meanwhile, back at Niner Camp, the FO has decided to resign Marsh as Bosa's hammy issues is projected to keeping him from his rookie season.

Oh damn got a link?

Scouts honor.

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

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Originally posted by KamLeon:

Originally posted by English:

But that isn't the point. It is quite clear that an edge rusher would have more impact than another interior lineman. Why? Because we had a dearth of one and a quantity of the other. So taking Williams would not have started to resolve our problem.

I stand behind the pick, and I also suggest you stop trying to rile other posters. Read the rules. Williams might play more games than Bosa this season. Might. But the impact that Bosa will have on the team will be more as a premier edge rusher than Williams would have had as a premier DT.

See how easy that was?

I agree with the point that edge rusher is/was needed, also the point that we have quite the depth at DT, but you have to balance that with the quality of the player and of course whether that play has the ability to stay healthy, otherwise the only thing you have is a part time player that's injured more than he's healthy.

Rile other posters? By doing what? Asking who will play more games? That seems a bit much. I'm not trying to rile anyone, just making a legitimate point. So how is that an issue. I only posted the comparison in the QW thread keeping it out of the Bosa thread to clearly take the step to keep it away from the pro Bosa fans.

So you're saying posting opinions is not allowed in the rules?

yes i too a victim of that same accusation " riling" other members because i had like you a different point of view on BOSA..... so now i may get ban or put in timeout because of my opinion.

If you had read the posts it would be quite clear that he was not just posting a different point of view. He was being argumentative and repetitive. If you have a problem there is the pm the mods facility which I suggest you use rather than moaning in a thread. And by the way, as far as I know neither of you actually got warned. But, for the record, posting to rile other posters is highly warnable.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This injury prone argument can go on forever. No player is immune to injury. Guys come in to the NFL that have never been seriously hurt and go down in their first game or practice. It happens. Sometimes once you're hurt you start getting injured again and again. Sometimes it's a one time thing. Unless you have some kind of genetic defect most injuries are just bad luck. Players rolling up on your leg or getting blindsided. Maybe you plant your leg wrong. Yes Bosa has been injured before but that doesn't mean he will keep getting hurt. We had 2 players that had serious early injuries and went on to have long successful careers. Frank Gore and Jesse Sapolu. Some guys get hurt once and are never the same. You can't tell what the future will hold for any of these guys. It often comes down to desire and hard work to overcome these injuries and those are 2 things Bosa has.

All teams take into account a college player's injury history. Of course you can't predict the future, but failure to do so would be negligent. Ruben Foster is a prime example.

As to Bosa, the fact that he played only three games last year and suffered a serious injury is and should be a legitimate consideration. 49er fans hope that it was a one time thing and the hamstring is a minor injury. Discussion of these kind of issues are what this board is for and the idea of banning posters who raise such concerns is ridiculous.

Originally posted by napo:

Discussion of these kind of issues are what this board is for and the idea of banning posters who raise such concerns is ridiculous.

No idea what you are talking about. I do not recall this ever happening.

Originally posted by napo:
All teams take into account a college player's injury history. Of course you can't predict the future, but failure to do so would be negligent. Ruben Foster is a prime example.

As to Bosa, the fact that he played only three games last year and suffered a serious injury is and should be a legitimate consideration. 49er fans hope that it was a one time thing and the hamstring is a minor injury. Discussion of these kind of issues are what this board is for and the idea of banning posters who raise such concerns is ridiculous.

Foster get's brought up a lot...how many games did he miss in college? He had a shoulder injury heading into the combine but I don't remember him missing a ton (if any) time because of it?

if someone could give me a refresher on Foster's massive injury history during college I'd love to hear it...I truly don't remember.

As far as Bosa...does ONE injury in 3 yrs equal "injury prone" and how long can a player go without an injury to lose that stigma? serious question? So now we have to go all the way back to HS to look at injuries? if his partial torn ACL has had zero set backs in 4 1/2 yrs, does it still remain an issue?

With a line consisting of Bosa, Buckner, Thomas, Ford I'll live with the possibility of an injury. Besides the injury concerns that's a scary defensive line without a weak spot.