Hakeem Butler-WR-Iowa State

Originally posted by NYniner85:

After watching tape of Iowa State WR Hakeem Butler, @QBKlass found an athletically gifted deep-ball specialist who could turn out to be a steal. https://t.co/yMNU2qilwj

— Football Outsiders (@fboutsiders) March 27, 2019

i loved lazard and this guy is soo much better

Originally posted by cciowa:
i loved lazard and this guy is soo much better

I wouldn't hate him at 36...his dropped balls are bothersome though. He makes stupid crazy catches then drops easy open passes. Gottta get hat fixed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cciowa:
i loved lazard and this guy is soo much better

I wouldn't hate him at 36...his dropped balls are bothersome though. He makes stupid crazy catches then drops easy open passes. Gottta get hat fixed.

you are right. visions of miss lloyd but man if he is there at 36

Originally posted by cciowa:
you are right. visions of miss lloyd but man if he is there at 36

Yup there's about 5 WRs that I'll be totally cool with them taking at 36...him being one.

Love this guy--he actually reminds me a little of Flash 80...same fluid movement, hands catcher (in spite of the drops), and gets open. I think he will be a steal if we can grab him in the second...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by cciowa:
you are right. visions of miss lloyd but man if he is there at 36

Yup there's about 5 WRs that I'll be totally cool with them taking at 36...him being one.

He or Harry would make me happy.

I am going full steam through WRs and hit on all of Butler's snaps from 10 games in 2018 a day ago.

I would REALLY love to put him at WR1 because there is so much to like.....but, his hands are so inconsistent. Some of the drops are just disastrous and inexcusable. The team that drafts him is going to have to take the good with the bad because he is going to be one of the guys with the most drops each year. At the same time, he is such a great target, and is super productive. Still a top level WR, but the drops are going to drive some teams and fan bases crazy.

I like Butler at 36. Would add an excellent dimension to our offense, but I prefer AJ Browns consistency. Would give us a guy that converts 50/50 balls into easy catches and turns easy catches into 50/50 balls. How has Butler been in clutch moments?

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

I am going full steam through WRs and hit on all of Butler's snaps from 10 games in 2018 a day ago.

I would REALLY love to put him at WR1 because there is so much to like.....but, his hands are so inconsistent. Some of the drops are just disastrous and inexcusable. The team that drafts him is going to have to take the good with the bad because he is going to be one of the guys with the most drops each year. At the same time, he is such a great target, and is super productive. Still a top level WR, but the drops are going to drive some teams and fan bases crazy.

You gotta think he cleans that up with his 11" hands and flashes of plucking the ball no? Gimme Butler, Pettis and Hardman

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

I am going full steam through WRs and hit on all of Butler's snaps from 10 games in 2018 a day ago.

I would REALLY love to put him at WR1 because there is so much to like.....but, his hands are so inconsistent. Some of the drops are just disastrous and inexcusable. The team that drafts him is going to have to take the good with the bad because he is going to be one of the guys with the most drops each year. At the same time, he is such a great target, and is super productive. Still a top level WR, but the drops are going to drive some teams and fan bases crazy.

After Isabella, who's your #1 guy?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I am going full steam through WRs and hit on all of Butler's snaps from 10 games in 2018 a day ago.

I would REALLY love to put him at WR1 because there is so much to like.....but, his hands are so inconsistent. Some of the drops are just disastrous and inexcusable. The team that drafts him is going to have to take the good with the bad because he is going to be one of the guys with the most drops each year. At the same time, he is such a great target, and is super productive. Still a top level WR, but the drops are going to drive some teams and fan bases crazy.

After Isabella, who's your #1 guy?

My WR board right now....I haven't completed all of my full reviews..even though I have completed most (working on Marquise Brown now):

1. AJ Brown
2. Andy Isabella
3. Hakeem Butler
4. N'Keal Harry
5. JJ Arcega-Whiteside

Interestingly enough, AJ Brown's best games came after Metcalf went out. Brown was more of a slot receiver until DK went out. Once he went outside, his numbers exploded. Dwarfed Metcalf's numbers on the outside.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I am going full steam through WRs and hit on all of Butler's snaps from 10 games in 2018 a day ago.

I would REALLY love to put him at WR1 because there is so much to like.....but, his hands are so inconsistent. Some of the drops are just disastrous and inexcusable. The team that drafts him is going to have to take the good with the bad because he is going to be one of the guys with the most drops each year. At the same time, he is such a great target, and is super productive. Still a top level WR, but the drops are going to drive some teams and fan bases crazy.

After Isabella, who's your #1 guy?

My WR board right now....I haven't completed all of my full reviews..even though I have completed most (working on Marquise Brown now):

1. AJ Brown
2. Andy Isabella
3. Hakeem Butler
4. N'Keal Harry
5. JJ Arcega-Whiteside

Interestingly enough, AJ Brown's best games came after Metcalf went out. Brown was more of a slot receiver until DK went out. Once he went outside, his numbers exploded. Dwarfed Metcalf's numbers on the outside.

Understanding you are still working on M. Brown, where is Deebo Samuel in your rankings?

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

I am going full steam through WRs and hit on all of Butler's snaps from 10 games in 2018 a day ago.

I would REALLY love to put him at WR1 because there is so much to like.....but, his hands are so inconsistent. Some of the drops are just disastrous and inexcusable. The team that drafts him is going to have to take the good with the bad because he is going to be one of the guys with the most drops each year. At the same time, he is such a great target, and is super productive. Still a top level WR, but the drops are going to drive some teams and fan bases crazy.

After Isabella, who's your #1 guy?

My WR board right now....I haven't completed all of my full reviews..even though I have completed most (working on Marquise Brown now):

1. AJ Brown
2. Andy Isabella
3. Hakeem Butler
4. N'Keal Harry
5. JJ Arcega-Whiteside

Interestingly enough, AJ Brown's best games came after Metcalf went out. Brown was more of a slot receiver until DK went out. Once he went outside, his numbers exploded. Dwarfed Metcalf's numbers on the outside.

Awesome, thanks. Was going to ask you your thoughts on JJ. From what I've seen (although I don't know how to evaluate a playet, they all look good to me lol) and read, he looks like a really good WR. there should be a very WR available at 36

I never considered TO as having great hands. He always seemed like a sloppy catcher. TO was definitely a body catcher. Rarely did I ever see him high point a ball. Probably one of the sloppiest catchers who is in the top 10 all time. IMO, reps weigh heavy on confidence in catching. You throw the ball a guys way at the minimum 10 times a game, he will gain confidence and will come through way more often than a WR who has inconsistent hands and only gets 3 to 5 targets a game.