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Hakeem Butler-WR-Iowa State
Apr 26, 2019 at 12:23 PM
- Rascal
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Hakeem has my vote.
Apr 26, 2019 at 12:24 PM
- 49ers808
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This guys upside is just crazy to think about. I know he has his drop issues, but I also seen him make insane grabs and break tackles like nobodies business. I'd be happy AF if we get him today
Apr 26, 2019 at 12:26 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'5" 227 lbs. 4.48 speed. He can go up and get the jump ball. He was highly productive.
1318 yards......22 average.....9 TD's.
He is super underrated on the WZ. We have lots of little, skinny WR's. Can we have just one big WR ever on this team?
Being only 227 at 6'5" is actually skinny. No more skinny WRs.
Give me AJ or Deebo...unless he's Randy Moss-ish.
He's not Randy Moss. That is rare. 227 is far from skinny for a WR. AJ Brown is a real good player. I would be very happy with him. I would much rather have AJ Brown or Hakeem Butler than Deebo.
At 6'5", 227 is skinny.
The things I really like about Butler is his ability to adjust to the ball without getting off balance and his strong hands.
These are the very same traits Moss had but Moss also had another level of speed.
It's not that skinny. Weight is more spread out on a 6'5" frame. That's common with lots of tall guys. That happens all the time in sports with tall guys with a big frame. It's a known and common issue and not a big deal. You want him to be 240 lbs.? 250 lbs.? That's a TE. Not a WR. He is fine where he is. He is not trying to play TE, LB or Nose Tackle. A lot of the DB's are 5'10", 5'11", 180 lbs., 185 lbs. He has a big advantage over them in both height and weight. He is a good player, fast and productive and plenty big enough. He is not trying to play OT in which case he would bulk up to 320 lbs. That's not his position or goal.
I'm just saying he's skinny. No different than a shorter receiver weighing 227 would appear bulky.
Brandon Ingram was 6'9" 190 lbs. his rookie year in the NBA. He has since tried to add some muscle and weight but is still ultra thin. Now that is SKINNY. 6'5" 227 is far from skinny or bad in any way for a WR. It's fine and even good.
Vincent Jackson was an absolute beast for the Chargers here and later for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was 6'5" 230 lbs. That's the same size.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Jackson
Here is a picture of him if you click the WIKI page. He sure doesn't look "skinny" to me. He was a muscular beast. A lot of the DB's are like 180 lbs. He outweighed them by 50 lbs. He would out jump them and high point the ball and muscle the ball down in a crowd. The same thing this guy will do exactly.
Apr 26, 2019 at 12:28 PM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
6'5" 227 lbs. 4.48 speed. He can go up and get the jump ball. He was highly productive.
1318 yards......22 average.....9 TD's.
He is super underrated on the WZ. We have lots of little, skinny WR's. Can we have just one big WR ever on this team?
Being only 227 at 6'5" is actually skinny. No more skinny WRs.
Give me AJ or Deebo...unless he's Randy Moss-ish.
He's not Randy Moss. That is rare. 227 is far from skinny for a WR. AJ Brown is a real good player. I would be very happy with him. I would much rather have AJ Brown or Hakeem Butler than Deebo.
At 6'5", 227 is skinny.
The things I really like about Butler is his ability to adjust to the ball without getting off balance and his strong hands.
These are the very same traits Moss had but Moss also had another level of speed.
It's not that skinny. Weight is more spread out on a 6'5" frame. That's common with lots of tall guys. That happens all the time in sports with tall guys with a big frame. It's a known and common issue and not a big deal. You want him to be 240 lbs.? 250 lbs.? That's a TE. Not a WR. He is fine where he is. He is not trying to play TE, LB or Nose Tackle. A lot of the DB's are 5'10", 5'11", 180 lbs., 185 lbs. He has a big advantage over them in both height and weight. He is a good player, fast and productive and plenty big enough. He is not trying to play OT in which case he would bulk up to 320 lbs. That's not his position or goal.
I'm just saying he's skinny. No different than a shorter receiver weighing 227 would appear bulky.
Brandon Ingram was 6'9" 190 lbs. his rookie year in the NBA. He has since tried to add some muscle and weight but is still ultra thin. Now that is SKINNY. 6'5" 227 is far from skinny or bad in any way for a WR. It's fine and even good.
Vincent Jackson was an absolute beast for the Chargers here and later for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was 6'5" 230 lbs. That's the same size.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Jackson
Here is a picture of him if you click the WIKI page. He sure doesn't look "skinny" to me. He was a muscular beast. A lot of the DB's are like 180 lbs. He outweighed them by 50 lbs. He would out jump them and high point the ball and muscle the ball down in a crowd. The same thing this guy will do exactly.
Look at smart man writing so many smart things. I'm sold.
Apr 26, 2019 at 2:28 PM
- socal9er42
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I believe I saw a Video on the NFLN on him during a workout. Pretty impressive. No clue what his Game Film looks like, but he moved well in drills. I didn't think he looked "Skinny" per se, but definitely no body fat.
Apr 26, 2019 at 2:44 PM
- deviledEgg
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I would love for Butler to be on our team. We need help on the offensive line, secondary and linebackers (depth for all units) but I will not complain, not even a little bit, if they reserve the second pick for Hakeem.
Apr 26, 2019 at 2:51 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by socal9er42:I believe I saw a Video on the NFLN on him during a workout. Pretty impressive. No clue what his Game Film looks like, but he moved well in drills. I didn't think he looked "Skinny" per se, but definitely no body fat.
Butler isn't skinny. Justin Hunter at 6'4" and 200 pounds...now that was skinny.
Apr 26, 2019 at 2:59 PM
- Waterbear
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by socal9er42:
I believe I saw a Video on the NFLN on him during a workout. Pretty impressive. No clue what his Game Film looks like, but he moved well in drills. I didn't think he looked "Skinny" per se, but definitely no body fat.
Butler isn't skinny. Justin Hunter at 6'4" and 200 pounds...now that was skinny.
I love Justin Hunter! lol
Apr 26, 2019 at 5:31 PM
- Joecool
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Hope he slides down. Back to back WR picks! Let's do it!!
Apr 26, 2019 at 8:05 PM
- njninersfan420
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Apr 26, 2019 at 8:07 PM
- Hysterikal
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WHAT DID YOU DO?!?!?
Apr 26, 2019 at 8:12 PM
- IGSXIII
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Back to back to back WR picks?
Apr 26, 2019 at 8:24 PM
- valrod33
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DRAFT HIM, DRAFT ALL THE WRS
Apr 26, 2019 at 8:31 PM
- LVJay
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Wow did no team like this kid (not even in 3rd rd)? Does he suck that much with the drops and/or is he dumb?? What gives?!
Apr 26, 2019 at 8:39 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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15% drop rate is probably just one of the things killing him.