2019/2020 QBs

Originally posted by Heroism:
I'm starting to think that the 49ers not getting Kirk Cousins may have been one of the worst things that could happen to us. The team admitted the plan was always to get Kirk Cousins. Kyle liked Jimmy, but he didn't love Jimmy like he did Cousins. It was Lynch that convinced him that they didn't have anything to lose by trading a 2nd to NE. And when Jimmy played at an insane level in 2017, Kyle was forced to swallow his pride and accept the apparent reality that Jimmy was flat out better than his beloved Kirk Cousins. But for years, rumors have been circulating for years about Kyle's unhappiness with Jimmy, and now in 2020, Jimmy's play has fallen off a damn cliff compared to how he played in 2017. Is there anyone that doubts Kyle has regrets about choosing Jimmy over Kirk?

If the 49ers would have gotten Kirk, it would've been for the better because if the team found success with Kirk, that's great. But if the team failed with Kirk, it would've forced Kyle to open his eyes and move on from his obsession with Cousins. Maybe he even adjusts his QB profile and becomes more open-minded about these new-age mobile QBs.

Instead, Kyle is presumptively left longing for a QB he can't have anymore and regretting decisions he never really wanted to make.

I think Kirk not exactly lighting the world on fire with the Vikings can help.

So is the fact that passing on Mahomes and Watson looks terrible right now. I still think Kyle will be weary of prospects not coming from a pro style offense who are more pocket passers but I think and hope that Kyle is smart enough to understand the NFL is changing.

Maybe seeing the defense flagged non stop for breathing on Murray funny when he runs all over us will get him to change things up as well.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I'm starting to think that the 49ers not getting Kirk Cousins may have been one of the worst things that could happen to us. The team admitted the plan was always to get Kirk Cousins. Kyle liked Jimmy, but he didn't love Jimmy like he did Cousins. It was Lynch that convinced him that they didn't have anything to lose by trading a 2nd to NE. And when Jimmy played at an insane level in 2017, Kyle was forced to swallow his pride and accept the apparent reality that Jimmy was flat out better than his beloved Kirk Cousins. But for years, rumors have been circulating for years about Kyle's unhappiness with Jimmy, and now in 2020, Jimmy's play has fallen off a damn cliff compared to how he played in 2017. Is there anyone that doubts Kyle has regrets about choosing Jimmy over Kirk?

If the 49ers would have gotten Kirk, it would've been for the better because if the team found success with Kirk, that's great. But if the team failed with Kirk, it would've forced Kyle to open his eyes and move on from his obsession with Cousins. Maybe he even adjusts his QB profile and becomes more open-minded about these new-age mobile QBs.

Instead, Kyle is presumptively left longing for a QB he can't have anymore and regretting decisions he never really wanted to make.

agreed, I just have a feeling at some point Kirk is gonna end up in SF

Originally posted by Gabberwocky:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
what is the point if they're just going to draft another statue? Might as well keep Garappolo then.

We don't have the o-line to sustain this at all.

Jones can throw deep with accuracy. Not so much with Garoppolo. Statue he may be, but he is the deepfield threat Jimmy G is not. *shrug*

Doesn't matter if the line can't keep the pocket clean long enough for any statue QB to throw downfield.

Originally posted by 9er4lyphe:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Murphys1:
Thoughts on Mac Jones from Bama? Hidden behind Tua before....looks like a stud maybe.

Mac Jones throw a fkn beautiful ball. Most accurate passer in all of Football too. Definitely one to keep an eye on. Solid pocket presence too.

Early but my guess is that Mac Jones from Alabama is the most "Kyle Shanahan" style QB.

-Tough
-Not very mobile
-Runs offense efficiently
-Not a HUGE arm but will air that hoe out
-Gets ball out his hands NOW
-Haven't seen him really create outside the structure of the play call pic.twitter.com/KGahjJWYYx

— Crocky (@eric_crocker) October 12, 2020

I know a "Kyle Shanahan" type QB doesn't sound sexy but Mac Jones in my opinion is a high level version. Closer to a Matt Ryan type. But it's early in the process. His ball placement pushing the ball vertically is crazy good. pic.twitter.com/s4s4FUUBuX

— Crocky (@eric_crocker) October 12, 2020

Beautiful deep ball. And he's highly efficient. Drives the ball well. Matt Ryan Jr pic.twitter.com/eyTPWOeMOd

— Crocky (@eric_crocker) October 12, 2020

updated thread from Crocky on Jones...he's got Shanny written all over him Dude's arm strength is about as good as mine lol. Has a good feel in the pocket, plays in a pro-style offense, not afraid to air it out (even though he doesn't have the arm talent to do it) will sling it into tight spaces. Day 3 backup guy IMO...feel like we have two dudes like this on the roster already lol.

IMO he's a weak armed Kirk.

here's his thread, you guys can go through all the clips.

Mac Jones looks to be more accurate than anyone on our roster, and imo, accuracy and what's between the ears are the two most important traits for a QB. Still, tho, you'd like to see someone with "play making ability"

I know this is unpopular, but Mac Jones is starting to arouse suspicion in me that he may be the secret draft steal. It's weird but in brief viewing of him, I get the Tom Brady vibes as he played in college. I must watch more, but so far I like.

eDIT- to be clear, poor man's college Brady, for college Brady still had the arm. This guy's arm is not elite. Seems better than Jimmy's though.

Kyle can't just set his sites on pro style pocket passers. If he does that, he'll be limited to a few guys that re already in the NFL and a few scattered colleges. Most colleges now run some form of option style offense that require more movement from the QB. Many college QBs never take a snap from under center and aren't really used to stepping up into a pocket since the pocket isn't usually there.

Kyle Trask Florida QB 6'4" 240 lbs

Late 1st to 2nd

pro style/game manager

"Through two games, Trask has completed 51 of his 71 pass attempts (completion percentage of 71.8) for 684 yards, 10 touchdown passes and just one interception. He hasn't had to use his athleticism much in the running game, but he's been able to extend plays and make throws thanks to his mobility."

"Having neared 3,000 yards last season as a junior, Trask is clearly getting better, but the question would be if that translates to the NFL."

Loves to throw to his TE Pitts

Originally posted by NYniner85:

agreed, I just have a feeling at some point Kirk is gonna end up in SF

man I hope not. I can't even stand his high pitch cadence, sounds like he squeezing a dingleberry out

Originally posted by NYniner85:
agreed, I just have a feeling at some point Kirk is gonna end up in SF

It's happening again




I actually like Kirk Cousins more than most people. I think he's better than Jimmy at certain things(ie pushing the ball downfield) and wouldn't hate him coming here. It just sucks to think about doing this again. In fact, it just f**king blows to be thinking about looking for a QB in general.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

agreed, I just have a feeling at some point Kirk is gonna end up in SF

Gross. Complete lateral move from JG. Moves the excitement needle zero.

Yeah no thanks on Ian Book

Mac Jones is def the most kyle Shanahan QB of all the top guys.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Yeah no thanks on Ian Book

Right here is the definition of a bandwagon 49ers fan. Lol

You guys want a mobile QB, Book is the definition of one. Like I said, wouldn't mind seeing him drafted in the 4th to later rounds.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Right here is the definition of a bandwagon 49ers fan. Lol

You guys want a mobile QB, Book is the definition of one. Like I said, wouldn't mind seeing him drafted in the 4th to later rounds.

You like Ian Book? Brah he f**king sucks, he lucky for go in the 7th. I see UDFA