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Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
In 17 out of the last 18 drafts, a QB was taken in the top 3 (the exception was 2013 when EJ Manuel was taken #16 and Geno Smith was taken #39). In 13 out of the last 18 drafts, a QB was taken #1 overall.
I find it hard to believe it'll be 17 out of 19 after this draft.
And in 3 of 5 drafts from 1996 to 2000, a QB was not taken in the first 17 picks. If Barrett didn't declare, there's no chance a team would reach for a QB in the top 3. As it is, if Allen or Burns has a great combine, one of them could be picked in the top 3 along with Bosa and Williams. There's no guarantee a QB gets taken in the top 3 just because of the recent trend.
Different league back then. QB's are more valuable now since the league favors them and any "pretty good" QB can net you results.
Chad Pennington falling to #18 in 2000 was a bit strange, but since 1998 that's still 19/21 drafts where a QB was taken in the top 3 (and 15/21 where a QB was taken #1 overall).
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NYniner85
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Different league back then. QB's are more valuable now since the league favors them and any "pretty good" QB can net you results.
Chad Pennington falling to #18 in 2000 was a bit strange, but since 1998 that's still 19/21 drafts where a QB was taken in the top 3 (and 15/21 where a QB was taken #1 overall).
Also the CBA and rookie pay scale is different.
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frankieuc68
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Nice! Now we got a possible trade up scenario for a QB on a deep edge rushing class. It will be tempting to give up on Bosa or Q in exchange for high picks which we can stock our roster with some starters. We can go Edge,OT,TE,WR, CB on those compensations acquired plus our own picks.
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tjd808185
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Normally speaking a qb desperate team is picking top 3. This year it's not until 5th or 6th pending Winston.
If teams feel Bosa and Q will go off the board or trade at 100% value they just don't have the stress to jump to 1.
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footballxpaul
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Normally speaking a qb desperate team is picking top 3. This year it's not until 5th or 6th pending Winston.
If teams feel Bosa and Q will go off the board or trade at 100% value they just don't have the stress to jump to 1.
yes that isnt necessarily true, teams are always afraid of someone else trading up.
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SammyFrancisco
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Bust.
I hope teams disagree and want to trade up to #2 for him. But I don't see Haskins as a first-round prospect.
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ads_2006
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no lol
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Bimbo_Coles
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Rooting this guy on. As others have said, we will likely be in a position to hold an auction at #2 for the QB.
I say trade two #2s for Antonio Brown, and then if Bosa goes off the board #1, then you trade back a few spots to get the AB picks back.
Then take Burns or Polite.
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Fanaticofnfl
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He has declared.
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Heroism
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Sunshine
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YASSS
Between Haskins declaring and Hafley going away, I've got a lot of love for OSU today.
[ Edited by Sunshine on Jan 7, 2019 at 11:47 AM ]
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genus49
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Originally posted by Sunshine:
YASSS
Between Haskins declaring and Hafley going away, I've got a lot of love for OSU today.
Don't forget Nick Bosa becoming the 49ers and NFL career sack leader...
*Speaking it into reality!*
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49oz2superbowl
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His declaring is absolutely huge and probably doubles our odds of landing Bosa. Only player someone would've traded to 1 for is Haskins (or Bosa) so without Haskins declaring our only hope was they went Q Williams.
I think it's more likely than not at this point that Bosa isn't the 1st overall pick as they could either trade back to then invest in the OL (most logical option), go Q Williams who is same caliber as Bosa and bigger need (second most logical), or force a pick of Jonah Williams because they can't risk the best OT going to the Jets who pick at 3 (who also need to protect their young qb investment).
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Heroism
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Originally posted by genus49:
Don't forget Nick Bosa becoming the 49ers and NFL career sack leader...
*Speaking it into reality!*
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Ninerjohn
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Just dont see either NYG or Jax moving all the way up to 1 or 2 to draft Haskins. I could see either trading with NYJ or Oakland at 3 or 4 though. The Jets in particular could really use Jonah Williams to protect Darnold and he would likely still be there with a trade down.
1 Bosa
2 Allen (although I wish it was Williams if Bosa is gone)
3) Haskins to NYG in trade with Jets
4) Q Williams to Oakland
5) J Williams to Jets