Jerry Jeudy, WR Alabama

Originally posted by FL9er:

The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
One thing might keep teams from moving up to take a receiver. Since there are so many good ones (27 have a round 3 or better rating) you may see teams moving up to take a D lineman or a DB. If they feel they have more pressing needs and can still get a good, solid receiver in the 2nd or even the 3rd round, it could work in our favor.

This throw in OT and QB. I wouldn't be shocked if the raiders take Jordan Love over WR at 12.

I think that is a real possibility, but this WR class is similar to the quality and depth of 2014 where the top 3 WR went in the first 12 picks (with Buffalo giving up a ton to get Sammy Watkins). Because of that draft, it wouldn't be a big shock if the top 3 WR in this draft go in the first 13 picks and I can see the Broncos trying to maneuver up and who knows what Howie Roseman comes up with if they target a WR.

Also, good to remember that draft had quality in other positions. Clowney, Mack, and Donald for DLine; Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan, Zack Martin for OLine (Greg Robinson who didn't pan out went 2nd); Barr, Shazier, and Moseley for LB. Now, the one thing 2014 didn't have was the elite QB prospects at the top of the draft (Bortles). It was a crazy good draft in the top of the first round. 13 of the first 17 picks made Pro Bowls.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

My latest mock on draft network...

I'll be honest I wanted Ruggs at 13 but they had Raiders taking him ahead of us :(

Still...if we don't get Ruggs Jeudy would be perfectly fine with him...bunch of trade downs from #31.

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

If there's a lesson to be learned from Thomas what is it in your opinion if not that?

Not like Thomas wasn't a top 5 prospect that year across the board...

Don't draft Solomon Thomas didn't seem like a good lesson to me but feel free to correct me.

Who's better Jeudy or Ruggs?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

If there's a lesson to be learned from Thomas what is it in your opinion if not that?

Not like Thomas wasn't a top 5 prospect that year across the board...

Don't draft Solomon Thomas didn't seem like a good lesson to me but feel free to correct me.

Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Who's better Jeudy or Ruggs?

Depends who you ask and that probably depends on what you're looking for.

IMO Ruggs and his speed are better for us but Jeudy as others have mentioned is a better, stronger and more committed Dante Pettis who Kyle obviously loved a lot.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

If there's a lesson to be learned from Thomas what is it in your opinion if not that?

Not like Thomas wasn't a top 5 prospect that year across the board...

Don't draft Solomon Thomas didn't seem like a good lesson to me but feel free to correct me.

Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

That would mean your assumption is Adams was #2 on their draft board. They have told us that wasn't the case. They had

1. Myles Garrett
2. Solomon Thomas
3. Reuben Foster

That's why I said if there is a lesson to be learned it's not to draft a guy high and then move him out of what his comfort zone was in college.

Now you can argue whether their draft board was ranked based on positional importance but that would be just pure speculation at this point.

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:

The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

All FO's make mistakes, no FO is ever going to always get it right.

We saw fans complain last year and throughout the season about taking Deebo with AJ Brown and DK still on the board.

You complain about the FO getting in their own heads, yet fans do the same thing. They have their draft and FA crushes and then get angry when the FO doesn't get their guy. Reality is if FO takes the BPA on their draft board, and it doesn't seem like the BPA to some fans, they will complain.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:

The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

If there's a lesson to be learned from Thomas what is it in your opinion if not that?

Not like Thomas wasn't a top 5 prospect that year across the board...

Don't draft Solomon Thomas didn't seem like a good lesson to me but feel free to correct me.

Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

By the same token, Tartt has been pretty good though Adam's is better.

We could have taken CMac which would have been considered a reach at 3 at the time, but his stats (hypothetically speaking since we won't get to see that) in this offense would probably have disproved that by now. Not much positional importance for CMac in a Shanahan zone scheme as we all know too.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:
The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

If there's a lesson to be learned from Thomas what is it in your opinion if not that?

Not like Thomas wasn't a top 5 prospect that year across the board...

Don't draft Solomon Thomas didn't seem like a good lesson to me but feel free to correct me.

Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

That would mean your assumption is Adams was #2 on their draft board. They have told us that wasn't the case. They had

1. Myles Garrett
2. Solomon Thomas
3. Reuben Foster

That's why I said if there is a lesson to be learned it's not to draft a guy high and then move him out of what his comfort zone was in college.

Now you can argue whether their draft board was ranked based on positional importance but that would be just pure speculation at this point.

Oh I see. If you're going by the team's lesson. I'll change it.

Don't draft defensive lineman that never use their hands.

Thomas played outside and inside on pass and run downs in both college and NFL. Shaw talked about it on ESPN right after they drafted him.

It had nothing to do with not playing him at the right position and everything to do with they whiffed on evaluating his ability to play.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by FL9er:

The meltdown in here if the 49ers use their 1st pick on an OL or DB, when everyone and their mother is expecting WR is going to be glorious.

Some will meltdown regardless.

"OMG this FO is soooooo dumb, they should have picked X instead of Y...."

You know it's true

Like when they moved up to draft Pettis, or when they drafted Soft Solomon, Ruben Foster, Joe Williams, Beathard, and Witherspoon. Those all worked out great.

This FO get in their own heads too much. Last year, they snapped out of it and did the right thing. I'm hoping they do the right thing again this year and take the BPA.

How many of those moves were considered bad ones at the time? Beathard was the only pick that was questioned by anyone covering the draft.

The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone. Witherspoon in the 3rd was also considered a very good pick(I still have faith in him putting it together, he did last year before he got hurt)

The team learned valuable lessons along the way.

Don't draft guys with terrible decision making on full display - Foster
Don't draft guys who you take off the board originally - Williams
Don't draft guys who you can't play at their college positions early in the draft - Thomas
Don't draft guys who don't care about football - Pettis

They did a great job last year...hopefully those lessons learned are paying off and will keep on doing so.

Sticking with that narrative, are we?

If there's a lesson to be learned from Thomas what is it in your opinion if not that?

Not like Thomas wasn't a top 5 prospect that year across the board...

Don't draft Solomon Thomas didn't seem like a good lesson to me but feel free to correct me.

Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

That would mean your assumption is Adams was #2 on their draft board. They have told us that wasn't the case. They had

1. Myles Garrett
2. Solomon Thomas
3. Reuben Foster

That's why I said if there is a lesson to be learned it's not to draft a guy high and then move him out of what his comfort zone was in college.

Now you can argue whether their draft board was ranked based on positional importance but that would be just pure speculation at this point.

Oh I see. If you're going by the team's lesson. I'll change it.

Don't draft defensive lineman that never use their hands.

Thomas played outside and inside on pass and run downs in both college and NFL. Shaw talked about it on ESPN right after they drafted him.

It had nothing to do with not playing him at the right position and everything to do with they whiffed on evaluating his ability to play.

The thomas pick to me will always come away as lynch falling in love with his fellow alumni making him his first pick as GM. We had no damn business drafting another dlineman at the time, I always preferred Adams, Watson who I never thought Kyle was gonna like due to the system he came from or even mcaffrey in a trade down.