Jerry Jeudy, WR Alabama

edit...avoiding this in here.

Ruggs/Jeudy. Let's get it.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

I can't remember, between Adams and Malik Hooker, who was the hitter and who was the cover guy. I wanted the cover guy. I was pizzled when we took Thomas. "NO MORE DTs!" didn't get heard in Santa Clara.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

I can't remember, between Adams and Malik Hooker, who was the hitter and who was the cover guy. I wanted the cover guy. I was pizzled when we took Thomas. "NO MORE DTs!" didn't get heard in Santa Clara.

Let's get back to Jeudy talk.

I only brought up Thomas as part of a lessons learned situation. If people want to play the what if game we can go to the Thomas thread.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

I can't remember, between Adams and Malik Hooker, who was the hitter and who was the cover guy. I wanted the cover guy. I was pizzled when we took Thomas. "NO MORE DTs!" didn't get heard in Santa Clara.

Let's get back to Jeudy talk.

I only brought up Thomas as part of a lessons learned situation. If people want to play the what if game we can go to the Thomas thread.

"The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone." Did you not just post this?

Let's get back to that, shall we?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Who's better Jeudy or Ruggs?

Depends who you ask and that probably depends on what you're looking for.

IMO Ruggs and his speed are better for us but Jeudy as others have mentioned is a better, stronger and more committed Dante Pettis who Kyle obviously loved a lot.

It really depends on what your team is looking for in a receiver. I looked at 7 draft prospect sites and they were split between Lamb and Jeudy for the top spot. All had Ruggs 3rd. It's important to note that all 3 ranged from #7 to #16 overall so that tells me there isn't a lot of difference. When you compare the 3 there is at least one thing that each of them does better than the other 2 so that's why it comes down to the team preference. Ruggs is the fastest but speed didn't seem to be an issue with Jeudy or Lamb in college.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Don't allow "position importance" to cloud your draft process.

Objectively Jamal Adams was the better player but people kept telling me "you don't draft a safety top 2" and now look where we are. If we were objective we would have a very good player in our secondary right now.

I can't remember, between Adams and Malik Hooker, who was the hitter and who was the cover guy. I wanted the cover guy. I was pizzled when we took Thomas. "NO MORE DTs!" didn't get heard in Santa Clara.

Let's get back to Jeudy talk.

I only brought up Thomas as part of a lessons learned situation. If people want to play the what if game we can go to the Thomas thread.

"The Thomas/Foster haul was praised by everyone." Did you not just post this?

Let's get back to that, shall we?

Yes if you want to and read it for what the point was, which wasn't to argue about the picks and talk about what should've happened but what the team could learn from those mistakes moving forward.

It's also why I edited out my response regarding Thomas earlier since it was steering the conversation away from Jeudy or the draft.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Who's better Jeudy or Ruggs?

Depends who you ask and that probably depends on what you're looking for.

IMO Ruggs and his speed are better for us but Jeudy as others have mentioned is a better, stronger and more committed Dante Pettis who Kyle obviously loved a lot.

It really depends on what your team is looking for in a receiver. I looked at 7 draft prospect sites and they were split between Lamb and Jeudy for the top spot. All had Ruggs 3rd. It's important to note that all 3 ranged from #7 to #16 overall so that tells me there isn't a lot of difference. When you compare the 3 there is at least one thing that each of them does better than the other 2 so that's why it comes down to the team preference. Ruggs is the fastest but speed didn't seem to be an issue with Jeudy or Lamb in college.

Jeudy and Lamb are plenty fast to be a #1 WR in the NFL. But Ruggs' has special speed.

Jeudy has consecutive seasons with over 1K yards and double digit TDs. I'll take the dude that has performed at an elite level as a WR1 in the toughest division in CFB

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Think about it this way.

The Cardinals could trade down, acquire more picks, grab the OT they want, and block us from picking one of the top 3 WRs.

I'd say that's a win for them.

So you're saying they could trade with a team below us who wants a WR (which cost a TON in draft capital) and they would still somehow end up with a top OT? I'll be shocked if one of the 4 OTs make it to us let alone make it past us.

This draft has a ton of very good WRs I don't see teams giving up top picks to move up for one when they can get a good one later.

Originally posted by evil:

Perhaps Denver, they will be looking for a WR to play opposite Sutton, and IMO would probably be targeting Jeudy or Ruggs in round 1.

That's the only team that makes sense to move up ahead of us. They're pretty set at a lot of positions. I think their LT isn't very good. I think they could upgrade at CB and LBer as well.

Originally posted by genus49:
Jeudy and Lamb are plenty fast to be a #1 WR in the NFL. But Ruggs' has special speed.

And just playing devil's advocate because I am doing it in my own head, if you run routes like Jeudy, is elite speed really that important? See: Rice, Jerry.

I'm honestly totally torn between these 2. Which means Kyle likes Lamb or one of the OTs.

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:

Originally posted by genus49:
Jeudy and Lamb are plenty fast to be a #1 WR in the NFL. But Ruggs' has special speed.

And just playing devil's advocate because I am doing it in my own head, if you run routes like Jeudy, is elite speed really that important? See: Rice, Jerry.

I'm honestly totally torn between these 2. Which means Kyle likes Lamb or one of the OTs.

For some routes sure.

But when you have plays like this, route running won't get you these results.



And Ruggs can run routes pretty good on his own. He's not Jeudy level but just reinforcing the point he's not another Goodwin.

Looks like Kiper has us taking Jeudy. Casserly has us taking CeeDee Lamb and Raiders taking Jeudy right before us... hmm

No f*cking way Jeudy falls to us. Ruggs, yea probably. Jeudy? No way. If you want Jeudy, you need to move up.