13th pick

Niners will draft whatever WR the Raiders don't draft.

If all of the three receivers are gone - my pick is Kinlaw. Total monster for our front four.

Weird hill to die on krizay. You could make your argument about any position group. Now I know you're not necessarily advocating for or against any position group, WR included, and are more just opposing the rationale that some posters are displaying with regards to WR NEEDING to be the pick, but that just makes the conversation even more silly. Just take the BPA at a position of need, which very well may be WR. I'd argue the Patriots stayed competitive because of coaching and Tom Brady, not because of superior drafting habbits (tho their ability to always have a large number of picks certainly helps, but there's a reason they always have a ton of comp picks for players that don't often go on to be wildly successful elsewhere)

On the flip side, the one pro-receiver argument I don't understand is that we HAVE to go WR because we lost Sanders, and he was the difference between an 8-0 team going 13-3 and to the Superbowl, and going 10-6 and missing the playoffs. That argument would imply that Sanders is worth, and his production only replicable with a 13th overall pick, which is asinine.

For the record, my list go Ruggs, Kinlaw, Wirfs, then trade, barring any unforeseen drops. If we miss on Ruggs, I'd hope for Mims day 1, Bryan Edwards day 2, and/or John Hightower day 3

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Weird hill to die on krizay. You could make your argument about any position group. Now I know you're not necessarily advocating for or against any position group, WR included, and are more just opposing the rationale that some posters are displaying with regards to WR NEEDING to be the pick, but that just makes the conversation even more silly. Just take the BPA at a position of need, which very well may be WR. I'd argue the Patriots stayed competitive because of coaching and Tom Brady, not because of superior drafting habbits (tho their ability to always have a large number of picks certainly helps, but there's a reason they always have a ton of comp picks for players that don't often go on to be wildly successful elsewhere)

On the flip side, the one pro-receiver argument I don't understand is that we HAVE to go WR because we lost Sanders, and he was the difference between an 8-0 team going 13-3 and to the Superbowl, and going 10-6 and missing the playoffs. That argument would imply that Sanders is worth, and his production only replicable with a 13th overall pick, which is asinine.

For the record, my list go Ruggs, Kinlaw, Wirfs, then trade, barring any unforeseen drops. If we miss on Ruggs, I'd hope for Mims day 1, Bryan Edwards day 2, and/or John Hightower day 3

Ive died on worse hills.

Originally posted by krizay:

Lol. The other danger is assuming there are only 3 elite WRs in this draft. Assuming the other guys are just starters.

The difference in the top 3 wrs to the next tier will not be the difference in winning a division or SB.

This team is already loaded. You know what keeps teams going. Keeping the cupboards stocked.

Why does NE win year after year? BB trades down and keeps his cupboards stocked. He turns his quantity into quality by drafting scheme fit players. And yes they play in a s**tty division but they beat good teams in the playoffs.

That's cuz the Pats are constantly picking bottom of the first round and his boards don't show first round players left to take so obviously he moves back where his board lines up better.

Don't forget the year they had our top 10 pick they didn't trade down a ton. They stayed in the top 10 and took Jared Mayo who many were surprised to see that high.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Hypothetical if a team wanted to move up to 13 what is fair value for that? Could we pick up a 2nd?

This should be of help to you :

What are the analytics behind the draft scale. Thought it was something gruden doodled up on the can one day.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

For a coach that wouldn't know what to do with elite receiver talent, WR is simply a sexy pick. For KS , a receiver like Ruggs in this offense is another matter altogether.

Here's the danger of the deep class thing- yes you can get starting quality later. We likely could trade back and be able to pick up another starter at another position. However. starter quality verses elite ability are two different things. In a deep class, you don't have to panic, but you shouldn't pass on elite talent. It's like the, should we pass on Bosa because we can get Montez Sweat + another pick later? The deep class argument only comes into play if the top 3 receivers are gone IMO.

We learned all about this trafe off last year. years of baalke put everything in perspective.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Hypothetical if a team wanted to move up to 13 what is fair value for that? Could we pick up a 2nd?

This should be of help to you :

What are the analytics behind the draft scale. Thought it was something gruden doodled up on the can one day.

From what I've read that this particular draft scale, was supposedly first developed by that old cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson....it's been around a while. There are other variations on this scale around also.
To me it is only like the price you see on a car at the used car lot....that is, it's only a starting point to get thing rolling

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Weird hill to die on krizay. You could make your argument about any position group. Now I know you're not necessarily advocating for or against any position group, WR included, and are more just opposing the rationale that some posters are displaying with regards to WR NEEDING to be the pick, but that just makes the conversation even more silly. Just take the BPA at a position of need, which very well may be WR. I'd argue the Patriots stayed competitive because of coaching and Tom Brady, not because of superior drafting habbits (tho their ability to always have a large number of picks certainly helps, but there's a reason they always have a ton of comp picks for players that don't often go on to be wildly successful elsewhere)

On the flip side, the one pro-receiver argument I don't understand is that we HAVE to go WR because we lost Sanders, and he was the difference between an 8-0 team going 13-3 and to the Superbowl, and going 10-6 and missing the playoffs. That argument would imply that Sanders is worth, and his production only replicable with a 13th overall pick, which is asinine.

For the record, my list go Ruggs, Kinlaw, Wirfs, then trade, barring any unforeseen drops. If we miss on Ruggs, I'd hope for Mims day 1, Bryan Edwards day 2, and/or John Hightower day 3

Unless the 49ers can grab one of Jeudy or Lamb, I'm not sure there's value at 13 for a WR. The other WR's fall into a tier of good but not as easily projectable at the next level. For this reason, I'm thinking the 13 pick is the one the team looks to trade back from. Ruggs might be nice, but you can trade back to late teens/early 20's and get a similar tier of receiver prospect. Given the draft capital they've used on the defensive line lately and the cap situation at the position, I think the 49ers are looking OT, WR, CB. 31 seems like a good spot to find a higher quality run stuffer for the defensive line.

LSU's Justin Jefferson, TCU's Jalen Reagor and Alabama's Henry Ruggs were interviewed by the niners. Lamb and Jerry weren't, was it because they didn't think they stood a chance at getting them? One thing we know-is if you play wr for them, you need to block and run the ball.

We lost Sanders and Buckner. So I think the niners are gonna go BPA at those positions.

Originally posted by WildBill:
LSU's Justin Jefferson, TCU's Jalen Reagor and Alabama's Henry Ruggs were interviewed by the niners. Lamb and Jerry weren't, was it because they didn't think they stood a chance at getting them? One thing we know-is if you play wr for them, you need to block and run the ball.

We lost Sanders and Buckner. So I think the niners are gonna go BPA at those positions.

That was probably before they traded Buckner and got the #13 pick. #31 is the area where Jefferson and Reagor were probably slated to go.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by WildBill:
LSU's Justin Jefferson, TCU's Jalen Reagor and Alabama's Henry Ruggs were interviewed by the niners. Lamb and Jerry weren't, was it because they didn't think they stood a chance at getting them? One thing we know-is if you play wr for them, you need to block and run the ball.

We lost Sanders and Buckner. So I think the niners are gonna go BPA at those positions.

That was probably before they traded Buckner and got the #13 pick. #31 is the area where Jefferson and Reagor were probably slated to go.

Yes, but not having had a chance to interview them and draft coming up fast and not being able to talk to them, invokes risk. Deebo, was practically living with them, so they knew him like the back of their hand. Jefferson's draft stock went up when he ran the 40 to back up his film.

Originally posted by mayo49:
If all of the three receivers are gone - my pick is Kinlaw. Total monster for our front four.

Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:

Originally posted by mayo49:
If all of the three receivers are gone - my pick is Kinlaw. Total monster for our front four.

Originally posted by mayo49:

If all of the three receivers are gone - my pick is Kinlaw. Total monster for our front four.

Pick Kinlaw even if all 3 WR's are still there