I will be furious if the 49ers draft.....[finish the sentence]

Originally posted by CardinalGold:

Any WR

Ok, that's a small exaggeration. But we already spent our 2020 third round pick on a WR (Sanders) who is not on the team, and a total of 6 picks in three drafts on WR. At some point you have to roll with the guys you drafted, and that means out of Pettis, Taylor, and Hurd we need someone step up to join Deebo as a top WR threat.

We need at least 1 CB, 2 OL, and 1 DT in this draft. If we don't get starting quality players at CB and OL out of this draft we are in a bind.

Ahhmm....no offense but you may want to look at the roster and not blindly worry about using draft capital on WRs.

Should we not have drafted Bosa cuz of all the DL picks?

Deebo and Bourne are legit the only two guys in our WR group who have proven any sort of consistency and it's not even anything to write home about with KB. Taylor and Hurd are coming off major injuries, Hurd never even played in a regular season. Pettis cannot be counted on after last year. James hasn't shown anything. Goodwin will be gone.

Do you have something against trying to get better?

Originally posted by Dman11:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Dudes soft with little to no effort in run support or in tackling. He seems to struggle to locate the ball in the air. He is decent in coverage nothing special. I think his future is in man to man not zone. He is a shorter version of Akello imo

I don't know where you see soft. He's a def got a feisty personality to him and appears to be a willing tackler, just s**tty form which makes it look like his heart isn't in it. I do agree that he's purely a man corner. Has no feel for zone at all.

There's a lack of effort to get off blocks and get involved in tackling. He just doesn't seem interested in being a part of run defense. He's all in for pass defense

I know you asked for names, but sorry I wont be listing any.

If we draft a defensive tackle with the 13th pick, I am going to lose my s**t.

Looks like we won't need another D line guy

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/135608-49ers-signing-kerry-hyder-one-year-deal-per-report/

I'm hoping CB or WR with at least one of our 1st rounders

If they trade out of 13, bc I feel they will get a very nice prospect fall to them.

another punter.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CardinalGold:

Any WR

Ok, that's a small exaggeration. But we already spent our 2020 third round pick on a WR (Sanders) who is not on the team, and a total of 6 picks in three drafts on WR. At some point you have to roll with the guys you drafted, and that means out of Pettis, Taylor, and Hurd we need someone step up to join Deebo as a top WR threat.

We need at least 1 CB, 2 OL, and 1 DT in this draft. If we don't get starting quality players at CB and OL out of this draft we are in a bind.

Ahhmm....no offense but you may want to look at the roster and not blindly worry about using draft capital on WRs.

Should we not have drafted Bosa cuz of all the DL picks?

Deebo and Bourne are legit the only two guys in our WR group who have proven any sort of consistency and it's not even anything to write home about with KB. Taylor and Hurd are coming off major injuries, Hurd never even played in a regular season. Pettis cannot be counted on after last year. James hasn't shown anything. Goodwin will be gone.

Do you have something against trying to get better?

That's unnecessary don't you think?

Obviously I want the team to get better. I just think the shortest path to getting better is by improving at OL and CB. To me, those are the bigger liabilities. Shanahan has a luxurious WR dog house with Pettis, who started just a year ago and played well. Meanwhile, who do we have at CB besides Sherm? UDFA Moseley who got beat badly in the SB and started us down the losing path. OL is a liability and it doesn't matter who is running routes if Jimmy G has no time to throw.

Just because someone disagrees with the approach you would take doesn't mean they don't share the same end goal as you.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

If they reach for a Wide Receiver unless the guy is a no-brainer STUD. WR is deep and has a very high bust rate. 2nd rd WR do almost as well as 1st rd. If in doubt trade down for WR or take BPA. Very risky to draft WR's high (see Pettis, Donte)
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2441018-which-positions-are-the-safest-riskiest-at-the-top-of-the-nfl-draft

That's why you draft jeudy. Route running translates to the NFL. And he is the best at that by far

#13 seems too risky to waste on Jeudy, I'd trade down

Easy one for me: Lloyd Cushenberry.

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
Any WR

Ok, that's a small exaggeration. But we already spent our 2020 third round pick on a WR (Sanders) who is not on the team, and a total of 6 picks in three drafts on WR. At some point you have to roll with the guys you drafted, and that means out of Pettis, Taylor, and Hurd we need someone step up to join Deebo as a top WR threat.

We need at least 1 CB, 2 OL, and 1 DT in this draft. If we don't get starting quality players at CB and OL out of this draft we are in a bind.

This.

People insist we need a WR because Sanders is now gone, but they're ignoring why Sanders was on the roster to begin with.

The question is, if Hurd, Taylor, and Goodwin weren't all on IR and if Pettis hadn't come back from the offseason unprepared do you think they would have ever traded for Sanders?

If the answer is that they likely wouldn't have, well, welcome to the 2020 season in which Hurd, Taylor, and Goodwin aren't on IR and Pettis might not come back from the offseason unprepared.

If cutting Goodwin was a foregone conclusion they would have done it by now. There's literally no point in making him miss free agency. If Shanny has given up on Pettis he has done a great job lying about it.

The 9ers are also 31st in the NFL in running 3 or more WR sets, and like the Patriots for over a decade, their #1 WR doesn't play WR (he plays TE). Put all this together and they're less dependent on WR talent than anyone in the NFL.

Even if Deebo doesn't progress a lick and Bourne doesn't progress a lick, the question is if Taylor, Hurd, Pettis, and Goodwin can combine to match Sanders' contribution. That's actually, IMO, not a bad bet to make at all, and remember, Deebo doesn't get at all better in that scenario either.

One of the many great things about Shanny (from a fan's perspective) is that he's atypically honest on the podium (which Lynch and the beat writers talk about a lot too). If you've been listening to him these past few months, he has already explained that they weren't bringing Sanders back because they already have a lot of young investments at the WR position. Fans ignore this because they want more young WR investment, but he's been quite clear in thinking that the team has already made those investments.

Someone based on their arm length with an acl history.

Denzel Mims

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
If they reach for a Wide Receiver unless the guy is a no-brainer STUD. WR is deep and has a very high bust rate. 2nd rd WR do almost as well as 1st rd. If in doubt trade down for WR or take BPA. Very risky to draft WR's high (see Pettis, Donte)
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2441018-which-positions-are-the-safest-riskiest-at-the-top-of-the-nfl-draft

That's why you draft jeudy. Route running translates to the NFL. And he is the best at that by far

#13 seems too risky to waste on Jeudy, I'd trade down

I wouldn't pick Jeudy there, but I'd consider Lamb or Ruggs. If there's a tackle on the board, I think we can trade down with the Bucs or Dolphins. I'm fine with Jeudy or Jefferson at 18 if there isn't a better prospect available.

Route running translates, but when you pick someone based on route running and they don't have other elite traits, you run the risk of drafting guys like Pettis. Amari Cooper was a great route runner but he was also extremely athletic at 6'1 211 with elite numbers in the 3 cone and shuttle (plus far stronger than any of the top WRs this year). Odell Beckham Jr was a great route runner and extremely athletic with even better numbers in the 3 cone and shuttle and great hands. Picking a WR at 13 on the basis of route running alone is a mistake in my opinion.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
#13 seems too risky to waste on Jeudy, I'd trade down

I think it's only risky in the context of not having any 2, 3, or 4th round picks in a ridiculously deep WR draft. But I also think that because of that depth, #13 will have to be the trade down pick. Teams may be less likely to want to trade up to #31 when they could just stand pat in the 2nd and draft a guy they still really like.

Henderson or Delpit for reasons already covered in this thread.