Not sold on 49ers picking a WR with 13th Pick

Value, baby!

How quickly people forget. Last year, I'd estimate 15-25% of active users wanted to draft QW, and at least 70% would have been okay with the pick, especially if Bosa was gone and a trade down unavailable. Now, we have a great season, but LOSE Buckner, LOSE Day, and have Jones, Taylor, and Street all coming off of season ending injury, and drafting a DT would be a fireable offense. I can understand not preferring to spend that early of draft capital on Kinlaw, but the talking in absolutes is rediculous. And for the record, even IF they wanted AA inside, you do realize that Kinlaw as a prospect is just AA as a prospect on steroids? There is no reason why he would be expected to have the same role that AA did last year.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

How quickly people forget. Last year, I'd estimate 15-25% of active users wanted to draft QW, and at least 70% would have been okay with the pick, especially if Bosa was gone and a trade down unavailable. Now, we have a great season, but LOSE Buckner, LOSE Day, and have Jones, Taylor, and Street all coming off of season ending injury, and drafting a DT would be a fireable offense. I can understand not preferring to spend that early of draft capital on Kinlaw, but the talking in absolutes is rediculous. And for the record, even IF they wanted AA inside, you do realize that Kinlaw as a prospect is just AA as a prospect on steroids? There is no reason why he would be expected to have the same role that AA did last year.

People were in love with Q as a prospect. It helps when you have guys already carving his Hall of Fame statue on this site. Some literally thought he was the next Warren Sapp and we'd be crazy passing on him even for Bosa. And at the worse they at least sold people that he's the 2nd best pick.

Now you're trying to sell people that we need a tackle. And there's an argument there since Buckner is gone it's just not the most glaring need.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

How quickly people forget. Last year, I'd estimate 15-25% of active users wanted to draft QW, and at least 70% would have been okay with the pick, especially if Bosa was gone and a trade down unavailable. Now, we have a great season, but LOSE Buckner, LOSE Day, and have Jones, Taylor, and Street all coming off of season ending injury, and drafting a DT would be a fireable offense. I can understand not preferring to spend that early of draft capital on Kinlaw, but the talking in absolutes is rediculous. And for the record, even IF they wanted AA inside, you do realize that Kinlaw as a prospect is just AA as a prospect on steroids? There is no reason why he would be expected to have the same role that AA did last year.

One difference is we have Bosa now and know what he brings with his play and presence on the field. We also had another great year of Armstead with a long term deal now. We also saw DJ Jones play very well and not just as a run stopper.

On paper at least as good as Buckner was our DL is still strong. Even without investing a 1st rounder on it again.

And for the record I wouldn't hate the pick. Just not my preference.

Hahahahhahahha, Easter humour?

Originally posted by Boldjames:
Dante Petrie is going to be the best WR in camp no need for WR

Giving JG as much help as possible does not mean drafting a WR. I would rather we draft protection for him on the OLine.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I can understand the reservation about drafting a WR at 13 (sorta). But IMO, the pick needs to be something that can help Jimmy almost immediately. So if there is a franchise left tackle worthy player to be drafted at 13, who can plug into guard until Staley is ready to hang them up, I am ok with it. But if there is not, and one of these elite WR prospects is there, you have to roll the dice. Give Jimmy as much as we possibly can. I wouldnt be upset with line, but WR is the pick

I will say that the idea that we should be drafting a defensive tackle is not something I can get down with. Would be so far down the list of positions to fill, in spite of Buckner leaving. It honestly makes so little sense to me, that I cant believe people are advocating for it.

Originally posted by Vancouver49er:

Giving JG as much help as possible does not mean drafting a WR. I would rather we draft protection for him on the OLine.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

I can understand the reservation about drafting a WR at 13 (sorta). But IMO, the pick needs to be something that can help Jimmy almost immediately. So if there is a franchise left tackle worthy player to be drafted at 13, who can plug into guard until Staley is ready to hang them up, I am ok with it. But if there is not, and one of these elite WR prospects is there, you have to roll the dice. Give Jimmy as much as we possibly can. I wouldnt be upset with line, but WR is the pick

I will say that the idea that we should be drafting a defensive tackle is not something I can get down with. Would be so far down the list of positions to fill, in spite of Buckner leaving. It honestly makes so little sense to me, that I cant believe people are advocating for it.

Only 1 real starting spot up for grabs on the OL assuming Joe is coming back. Even with him possibly hanging them up Brunskill could fill in. Potentially at both spots. WR could be ok...but with all the questions outside of Deebo and Bourne(1 year deal) real quick it could be a disaster again. Can't have that risk. WR is close to a must after we let Sanders walk.

I hear you. But in ShanaLynch we trust. They have a plan, versus all the previous combinations of Baallke/Nolan/Tomsula/Harbaugh/Singletary. I was surprised they extended Verrett and Johnson too, but i am not going to second guess them on this. So far, they have missed on some, and hit on a lot more. I am sure a couple of seasons ago, most of the 49er faithful were going "Kittle who?". But they had a plan to use him, they knew what he could do, and they knew how to coach him. How many times have scratched our heads on the picks that the previous GM and Coaches made? I am not doing any head scratching with ShanaLynch. If they think Verret and Johnson is good enough to get more money, then I am all in. The alternative is to draft a couple of corners, and hope there is time for them to learn the playbook and get a training camp in. Not likely in the current virus scenario.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
@Vancouver dude our list of receivers is a junk pile of maybes. I agree with you that we should take a stud on D if he is available. Not just because defo is gone but because it doesn't look like ford will produce either. Wee need to bolster our strength with our high pick. Then, get some interior oline so jimmy doesnt get KILLED.

Maybe we flip a deal where we can get green on the cheap after cutting pettis/thomas/breida/mck or some other dude who might be damaged good.

speaking of which glad we threw more money at do-nothings like verret and Johnson today. Hope Parrag wrote up a bag of doritos as compensation if thay are not on the roster sept 1.

My preferential draft order from a fan's viewpoint would be OT, DT/DE, WR, CB.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
So just for arguments sake at what point do you feel a WR should be taken considering the current situation ? Or do you feel we shouldn't take one at all this year since you feel they would not be able to contribute ?

Originally posted by Vancouver49er:

My preferential draft order from a fan's viewpoint would be OT, DT/DE, WR, CB.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

So just for arguments sake at what point do you feel a WR should be taken considering the current situation ? Or do you feel we shouldn't take one at all this year since you feel they would not be able to contribute ?

My OCD is kicking into overdrive...why are you putting the quotes you're responding to below your response?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Vancouver49er:

My preferential draft order from a fan's viewpoint would be OT, DT/DE, WR, CB.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

So just for arguments sake at what point do you feel a WR should be taken considering the current situation ? Or do you feel we shouldn't take one at all this year since you feel they would not be able to contribute ?

My OCD is kicking into overdrive...why are you putting the quotes you're responding to below your response?

Haha, that's funny, was wondering the same.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
If they can move down and get him, I could live with it. This team needs to balance out the top end talent across the board though.

Can't keep investing top end 1st rd picks at one position group and expect to keep all of them LT.

5 years is pretty darn longterm tho,...especially with the unfair discount bargain they have when they get a good one. Look at the trade bait one produced just this year for us simply because we couldn't keep him.

If Kinlaw is yet another problem for offenses for 4 years with a couple Pro Bowls mixed in that we simply are too talented (on both sides) to be able to keep,...where we have to take yet another top 15 pick for in year 5,...then hey,...sign me up!!!

Strategy-wise, you have to see the brilliance in not being able to keep everyone. It's a copycat league tho, so we may not get the same opportunity to terrorize Olines all year with yet another top-10 level DLinemen. I'd imagine teams are on to us and realize they need the same before pick 13.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
People were in love with Q as a prospect. It helps when you have guys already carving his Hall of Fame statue on this site. Some literally thought he was the next Warren Sapp and we'd be crazy passing on him even for Bosa. And at the worse they at least sold people that he's the 2nd best pick.

Now you're trying to sell people that we need a tackle. And there's an argument there since Buckner is gone it's just not the most glaring need.

Just as with every other Bama prospect you see,...the lopsided edge they get in recruiting with Saban there means you have to dissect and inspect every single part of what you're planning to possibly get from them early in the draft.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
How quickly people forget. Last year, I'd estimate 15-25% of active users wanted to draft QW, and at least 70% would have been okay with the pick, especially if Bosa was gone and a trade down unavailable. Now, we have a great season, but LOSE Buckner, LOSE Day, and have Jones, Taylor, and Street all coming off of season ending injury, and drafting a DT would be a fireable offense. I can understand not preferring to spend that early of draft capital on Kinlaw, but the talking in absolutes is rediculous. And for the record, even IF they wanted AA inside, you do realize that Kinlaw as a prospect is just AA as a prospect on steroids? There is no reason why he would be expected to have the same role that AA did last year.

After watching our Dline get mugged like crazy, I'm not convinced we need 4 great Dlineman. Not that I don't want that. I just don't see it as a need.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Value, baby!

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