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Not sold on 49ers picking a WR with 13th Pick

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by genus49:
It's fine if you don't want to blame the refs cuz we certainly had plenty of chances to make or stop big plays to get the win regardless of the refs but turning a blind eye to what happened isn't wise either.

We built our team that the strength was our DL and their ability to get to the QB. When the games are called by the rules we're able to dominate. In the SB the refs basically acting like holding wasn't a thing. That means your biggest asset as a team is essentially handicapped.

So do you keep building your team to be all about the DL or do you see what happened and ensure that you still have a strong unit that can rush the passer but can also take advantage of a game where holding isn't called?

That's why I like Ruggs for us. IMO our DL is still a strength without Buckner. Kinlaw is a very good player but our DL can still rush the passer with Bosa, Ford, Armstead and X.

By making ourselves more well rounded and less top heavy at one unit I think we make us more prepared to win in different ways.

I agree with all of this. The SB really opened my eyes. And yeah, I do believe that draft strategy needs to be altered depending on the landscape of the rules and officiating.

Armstead complaining about his much Seattle holds too. They are getting sick and tired of it. It's a massive unfair advantage.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by genus49:
It's fine if you don't want to blame the refs cuz we certainly had plenty of chances to make or stop big plays to get the win regardless of the refs but turning a blind eye to what happened isn't wise either.

We built our team that the strength was our DL and their ability to get to the QB. When the games are called by the rules we're able to dominate. In the SB the refs basically acting like holding wasn't a thing. That means your biggest asset as a team is essentially handicapped.

So do you keep building your team to be all about the DL or do you see what happened and ensure that you still have a strong unit that can rush the passer but can also take advantage of a game where holding isn't called?

That's why I like Ruggs for us. IMO our DL is still a strength without Buckner. Kinlaw is a very good player but our DL can still rush the passer with Bosa, Ford, Armstead and X.

By making ourselves more well rounded and less top heavy at one unit I think we make us more prepared to win in different ways.

I agree with all of this. The SB really opened my eyes. And yeah, I do believe that draft strategy needs to be altered depending on the landscape of the rules and officiating.

Armstead complaining about his much Seattle holds too. They are getting sick and tired of it. It's a massive unfair advantage.

Its got to the point where we just simply gonna have to blow out teams to win. That is why I want Ruggs and will be upset if we don't get him. We cant play these tight games anymore where the refs can dictate what does and doesn't happen.
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Leave him at LT and cut or trade Staley if he won't play guard. The dead cap hit is only $5.5M. Staley's PFF grade was down to 72.7 last season and he's on the wrong side of 35.

dude stop it.

None of these rookie can touch Joe's jock strap at this pt. SF will not cut or trade him. His contract was also guaranteed as of 4/1.

His PFF grade was 81.3 good for 6th overall.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Leave him at LT and cut or trade Staley if he won't play guard. The dead cap hit is only $5.5M. Staley's PFF grade was down to 72.7 last season and he's on the wrong side of 35.

dude stop it.

None of these rookie can touch Joe's jock strap at this pt. SF will not cut or trade him. His contract was also guaranteed as of 4/1.

His PFF grade was 81.3 good for 6th overall.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/joe-staley/3644

Says here 72.7.

Only $4.5 million of his 2020 salary guaranteed on 4/1 (hence the dead cap hit of only $5.5 million).

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/joe-staley-3377/

My first option is to trade back if a tackle is on the board. If we can't do that, I'd probably pick the tackle ahead of any of the WRs in this class regardless of whether Staley plans to retire this year. And a rookie could definitely be mediocre year 1 which is what Staley will be for the rest of his career (in a best case scenario).
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/joe-staley/3644

Says here 72.7.

Only $4.5 million of his 2020 salary guaranteed on 4/1 (hence the dead cap hit of only $5.5 million).

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/joe-staley-3377/

My first option is to trade back if a tackle is on the board. If we can't do that, I'd probably pick the tackle ahead of any of the WRs in this class regardless of whether Staley plans to retire this year. And a rookie could definitely be mediocre year 1 which is what Staley will be for the rest of his career (in a best case scenario).

Final grades are right here

https://grades.pff.com/#/ratings/positions/show/T

81.3 overall

OTC (which I use and AB says is more reliable)

Says $10.5M was fully guaranteed on 4/1

https://overthecap.com/player/joe-staley/95/

If not for his injury (freak broken leg) he would have been a top 5 OT YET again!

The only way joe isn't the starting LT this upcoming yr is if he retires. I'd like to think if he was planning to do that he would tell the team before the draft. I'm also not all about pushing a tackle to guard for however long and pushing them back out to tackle.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Final grades are right here

https://grades.pff.com/#/ratings/positions/show/T

81.3 overall

OTC (which I use and AB says is more reliable)

Says $10.5M was fully guaranteed on 4/1

https://overthecap.com/player/joe-staley/95/

If not for his injury (freak broken leg) he would have been a top 5 OT YET again!

The only way joe isn't the starting LT this upcoming yr is if he retires. I'd like to think if he was planning to do that he would tell the team before the draft. I'm also not all about pushing a tackle to guard for however long and pushing them back out to tackle.

I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/
[ Edited by eastcoast49ersfan on Apr 15, 2020 at 5:17 AM ]
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/

Welp I do have PFF premium and his final score is 81.3 overall which was tied for 7th overall (tied with Anthony Castonzo) ...So whatever anyone else says is just not true. It's the final grade of the yr, not just the playoffs.

If I knew how to upload pics in here (no more tiny pic) I would show you the grades of the top 20.

When healthy he's still a top 5 OT in the league. He's under contract thru 2021. That's all we know at this pt.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/

Welp I do have PFF premium and his final score is 81.3 overall which was tied for 7th overall (tied with Anthony Castonzo) ...So whatever anyone else says is just not true. It's the final grade of the yr, not just the playoffs.

If I knew how to upload pics in here (no more tiny pic) I would show you the grades of the top 20.

When healthy he's still a top 5 OT in the league. He's under contract thru 2021. That's all we know at this pt.

I usually just go to https://imgbb.com/ upload my screenshot/pics there and then post the link in here. Certainly not as convenient but still gets the job done.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/

Welp I do have PFF premium and his final score is 81.3 overall which was tied for 7th overall (tied with Anthony Castonzo) ...So whatever anyone else says is just not true. It's the final grade of the yr, not just the playoffs.

If I knew how to upload pics in here (no more tiny pic) I would show you the grades of the top 20.

When healthy he's still a top 5 OT in the league. He's under contract thru 2021. That's all we know at this pt.

I usually just go to https://imgbb.com/ upload my screenshot/pics there and then post the link in here. Certainly not as convenient but still gets the job done.

.

https://ibb.co/3kM8Xb6
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 15, 2020 at 6:28 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/

Welp I do have PFF premium and his final score is 81.3 overall which was tied for 7th overall (tied with Anthony Castonzo) ...So whatever anyone else says is just not true. It's the final grade of the yr, not just the playoffs.

If I knew how to upload pics in here (no more tiny pic) I would show you the grades of the top 20.

When healthy he's still a top 5 OT in the league. He's under contract thru 2021. That's all we know at this pt.

I usually just go to https://imgbb.com/ upload my screenshot/pics there and then post the link in here. Certainly not as convenient but still gets the job done.

.

https://ibb.co/3kM8Xb6

That's all I got lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/

Welp I do have PFF premium and his final score is 81.3 overall which was tied for 7th overall (tied with Anthony Castonzo) ...So whatever anyone else says is just not true. It's the final grade of the yr, not just the playoffs.

If I knew how to upload pics in here (no more tiny pic) I would show you the grades of the top 20.

When healthy he's still a top 5 OT in the league. He's under contract thru 2021. That's all we know at this pt.

I usually just go to https://imgbb.com/ upload my screenshot/pics there and then post the link in here. Certainly not as convenient but still gets the job done.

.

https://ibb.co/3kM8Xb6

That's all I got lol

lol sometimes i have to grab the link off what they post.

Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
I can't see that because I don't have a PFF subscription but other sources indicate he had a 72.7 grade during the 2019 regular season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/amp-2280/

He played better on the playoffs with an average grade of ~81-82 which may be what you're referencing.

"His Pro Football Focus grades for the playoff games ranged from above average (75.9 overall/66.1 pass blocking/75.7 in the divisional round) to high quality (86.3/85.2/84.0 in the NFC Championship and 84.6/89.1/78.6 in the Super Bowl)"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninernoise.com/2020/02/10/49ers-ranking-top-5-performances-2020-playoffs/amp/2/

Welp I do have PFF premium and his final score is 81.3 overall which was tied for 7th overall (tied with Anthony Castonzo) ...So whatever anyone else says is just not true. It's the final grade of the yr, not just the playoffs.

If I knew how to upload pics in here (no more tiny pic) I would show you the grades of the top 20.

When healthy he's still a top 5 OT in the league. He's under contract thru 2021. That's all we know at this pt.

I usually just go to https://imgbb.com/ upload my screenshot/pics there and then post the link in here. Certainly not as convenient but still gets the job done.

.

https://ibb.co/3kM8Xb6

That's all I got lol

lol sometimes i have to grab the link off what they post.


Thanks! What link do you use after you upload it? The viewer link? And do you just use the pic button up top (3rd from the left). I'm gonna figure this out
So we're just going to pretend like he's not contemplating retirement??
Curious where did Mike McGlinchey finish, rank and grade ?
Supposedly, Andrews can play guard or tackle. If he's there at 13 then I would be okay taking him and getting a receiver at 31 or with a 2nd round pick.
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