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Trade up in the draft w/ Browns or Jets?

I think it could be beneficial for us to trade up in the draft with either the Browns (10) or Jets (11). If we did this, we would probably be able to choose which of the 3 wide receivers we want, OR, take the best OL in the draft. It is most likely necessary if we for sure want Jeudy, but the draft is always a surprise. We would give up 13 and 31 for their 1st and 2nd round picks.

I ran a few calculations to see if this is something reasonable for us to do. Our 13th (1150) and 31st (600) pick are equal to a value of 1750.

The Browns pick at 10 is 1300 and their pick at 41 is 490... A combined value of 1790. On paper, we would win this trade.

The Jets pick at 11 and 48 are worth 1250 and 420 respectively. A combined total of 1670... We would lose this trade on paper.

What are your guys' thoughts? If Shanny falls in love with Jeudy we may have to leapfrog the Raiders to make it happen.
No. Gain picks don't lose more
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
No. Gain picks don't lose more

Maybe but we aren't a rebuilding team.
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
No. Gain picks don't lose more

This
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Maybe but we aren't a rebuilding team.

true but you have to stay stocked. We already need upgrades in certain areas. Throw in Needing Staley and Sherm replacements in the near future. We need the ultimate Auto (Ford) insurance. We need depth on OL, Depth at CB(1 starter really) & a replacement for Buck?

As we seen this offseason, we can't keep everyone year after year. We already don't have the draft capital this year. In order to move up, we'd either have to use both 1sts or capital from next years draft. Which would leave us in the exact same situation next year.

While we don't need draft picks to rebuild. We do need draft picks to remain stocked.
It's a pass for me unless Okudah is there. If you miss out on your guys at 13, you move back and acquire 2nd and 3rd round picks. We have several positions to fill with quality guys that we can't rely on 5th and 6th rounders to fill.
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I think we need to maybe trade up ahead of NYJ and LV to secure one of the WR's. But, most likely one of them should be there at #13. I'd stand pat and make the pick at #13.
If Kyle loves one of the top 3 WRs way more than the other two or maybe 2 of the 3 then jumping at least Oakland makes sense.

Cleveland would be the likeliest move up since they're not likely to look at WR and could move down to 13 and likely get the guy they would at 10.

The trade brought up would be

49ers getting #10 and #41 and Cleveland gets #13 and #31.

It wouldn't be my ideal scenario but I wouldn't hate it since we wouldn't lose the pick completely but obviously it lowers the value we can get in moving back from 41 as the draw of the 5th year option no longer exists at 41 as it did at 31.

For me perfect world is we stay put and still end up with Ruggs or Jeudy as option 1B. Then we trade back from 31 unless Ruiz is somehow there.
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Originally posted by genus49:
If Kyle loves one of the top 3 WRs way more than the other two or maybe 2 of the 3 then jumping at least Oakland makes sense.

Cleveland would be the likeliest move up since they're not likely to look at WR and could move down to 13 and likely get the guy they would at 10.

The trade brought up would be

49ers getting #10 and #41 and Cleveland gets #13 and #31.

It wouldn't be my ideal scenario but I wouldn't hate it since we wouldn't lose the pick completely but obviously it lowers the value we can get in moving back from 41 as the draw of the 5th year option no longer exists at 41 as it did at 31.

For me perfect world is we stay put and still end up with Ruggs or Jeudy as option 1B. Then we trade back from 31 unless Ruiz is somehow there.

I'd cream my pants if we got one of the WR's and Ruiz.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by genus49:
If Kyle loves one of the top 3 WRs way more than the other two or maybe 2 of the 3 then jumping at least Oakland makes sense.

Cleveland would be the likeliest move up since they're not likely to look at WR and could move down to 13 and likely get the guy they would at 10.

The trade brought up would be

49ers getting #10 and #41 and Cleveland gets #13 and #31.

It wouldn't be my ideal scenario but I wouldn't hate it since we wouldn't lose the pick completely but obviously it lowers the value we can get in moving back from 41 as the draw of the 5th year option no longer exists at 41 as it did at 31.

For me perfect world is we stay put and still end up with Ruggs or Jeudy as option 1B. Then we trade back from 31 unless Ruiz is somehow there.

I'd cream my pants if we got one of the WR's and Ruiz.

If that happens I'd join you in creaming your pants
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by genus49:
If Kyle loves one of the top 3 WRs way more than the other two or maybe 2 of the 3 then jumping at least Oakland makes sense.

Cleveland would be the likeliest move up since they're not likely to look at WR and could move down to 13 and likely get the guy they would at 10.

The trade brought up would be

49ers getting #10 and #41 and Cleveland gets #13 and #31.

It wouldn't be my ideal scenario but I wouldn't hate it since we wouldn't lose the pick completely but obviously it lowers the value we can get in moving back from 41 as the draw of the 5th year option no longer exists at 41 as it did at 31.

For me perfect world is we stay put and still end up with Ruggs or Jeudy as option 1B. Then we trade back from 31 unless Ruiz is somehow there.

I'd cream my pants if we got one of the WR's and Ruiz.

If that happens I'd join you in creaming your pants

Originally posted by scooterhd:
It's a pass for me unless Okudah is there. If you miss out on your guys at 13, you move back and acquire 2nd and 3rd round picks

You dont move on your own.

Moving up to #13 only to be desperate to move down reeks of a staff that hasn't a clue in the world what they are doing. And,...last draft season they either got lucky or showed a pretty good glimpse towards knowing what they are doing come draft time.
Originally posted by mayo49:
I think we need to maybe trade up ahead of NYJ and LV to secure one of the WR's. But, most likely one of them should be there at #13. I'd stand pat and make the pick at #13.

Unless there is one of those receivers they want way more than the others. In their short draft history together, if there is a player they (Shanahan) really wants they move up to make sure they get him. The only difference is the draft pick closet is bare after the 1st round, so we will see.
Originally posted by random49er:
You dont move on your own.

Moving up to #13 only to be desperate to move down reeks of a staff that hasn't a clue in the world what they are doing. And,...last draft season they either got lucky or showed a pretty good glimpse towards knowing what they are doing come draft time.

I don't think moving back in a draft is a sign of desperation. Have you seen a Patriots draft? You identify targets for your football team and you draft those players with the most possible value. If you feel like the player you want at 13 will be there at 21, you trade back if possible and acquire another pick.
Papa on KNBR saying he'd move up to #3 to get Jeudy...
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