Andrew Thomas-OT-Georgia

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I almost miss knowing there's a 99% chance we're going to draft Nick Bosa. Haha.

But this is fun too. There's probably just a couple positions you could actually rule out here.

There's a very strong possibility all our T-to-G combos are gone, Jeudy is gone too...then what's the best GM move?

3 QBs, Young, Okudah, Simmons, 4 OTs = 10 players. If Derrick Brown and Jeudy are gone, we have our choice of Lamb, Ruggs, or Kinlaw. I doubt anyone wants to trade up if the tackles are gone so we're probably stuck picking one of them.

That's exactly how I see it unfolding too.

Then, what's the best choice for the team as a GM?

CB

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I almost miss knowing there's a 99% chance we're going to draft Nick Bosa. Haha.

But this is fun too. There's probably just a couple positions you could actually rule out here.

There's a very strong possibility all our T-to-G combos are gone, Jeudy is gone too...then what's the best GM move?

3 QBs, Young, Okudah, Simmons, 4 OTs = 10 players. If Derrick Brown and Jeudy are gone, we have our choice of Lamb, Ruggs, or Kinlaw. I doubt anyone wants to trade up if the tackles are gone so we're probably stuck picking one of them.

That's exactly how I see it unfolding too.

Then, what's the best choice for the team as a GM?

CB

I mean, you're picking OL for the exact same reason you'd pick a top CB...Sherman is about to retire and only Ward is guaranteed to be back. It certainly needs to be in the conversation as a top need/target.

Originally posted by NCommand:

I mean, you're picking OL for the exact same reason you'd pick a top CB...Sherman is about to retire and only Ward is guaranteed to be back. It certainly needs to be in the conversation as a top need/target.

They have every single Starting lineman under contract Thru 2021 (minus RG) they don't have a single starter at CB under contract after 2020.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I mean, you're picking OL for the exact same reason you'd pick a top CB...Sherman is about to retire and only Ward is guaranteed to be back. It certainly needs to be in the conversation as a top need/target.

They have every single Starting lineman under contract Thru 2021 (minus RG) they don't have a single starter at CB under contract after 2020.

That doesn't mean Staley will make it through.

I go OL as a higher priority (but BPA where possible) for one reason. CB screws up, you are down 7. Offensive lineman screws up, potentially you have just lost your franchise qb for the season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I mean, you're picking OL for the exact same reason you'd pick a top CB...Sherman is about to retire and only Ward is guaranteed to be back. It certainly needs to be in the conversation as a top need/target.

They have every single Starting lineman under contract Thru 2021 (minus RG) they don't have a single starter at CB under contract after 2020.

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I mean, you're picking OL for the exact same reason you'd pick a top CB...Sherman is about to retire and only Ward is guaranteed to be back. It certainly needs to be in the conversation as a top need/target.

They have every single Starting lineman under contract Thru 2021 (minus RG) they don't have a single starter at CB under contract after 2020.

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I completely agree on the CB.
MM puts it at 50/50 Joe comes back, I think he will but I'm sure he has stayed in touch with Lynch so they should have a really good idea by draft time.
It all depends how the 12 picks in front of us go but it wouldn't be terrible if we trade back from #13 about 3-5 spots.
In that scenario we could get WR CB and IOL/T in first 3 rounds.

Originally posted by English:

That doesn't mean Staley will make it through.

I go OL as a higher priority (but BPA where possible) for one reason. CB screws up, you are down 7. Offensive lineman screws up, potentially you have just lost your franchise qb for the season.

I'm not saying don't try to upgrade the OL. I'm saying 90% of our OL is currently signed thru 2021. CB is not. IMO if Joe was planning to hang them up he wouldn't have resigned this past off season.

If you have no startable CBs you're not winning anything in this league either. I'm also guessing, but I'm sure they might try to upgrade via FA at CB or OL in 2021.

Originally posted by NCommand:

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

Yes they currently have a hole at RG, so go find a rookie RG for competition (Damien Lewis please and thank you).

While we don't think it's ideal, brunskill has to be part of the equation at either tackle or guard. He played well for the most part (imo better at OT) he was damn good at PP at tackle too. The coaching staff and our OL coach love him. Kyle also loves Coleman.

If Joe retires tomorrow, sure it changes some things. Personally I don't think he will. Lynch said he's confident that Joe is coming back. So until he doesn't you have to assume he will.

As of today we know that we have zero starting CBs on the roster in 2021. Now I wouldn't be shocked if both OL & CB are heavily looked at in 2021 via FA/draft and obviously this yr (if the value is there).

Originally posted by NCommand:

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I agree OL and CB are our 2 biggest needs. it comes down to what is harder to find? For me it's generally OL.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yes they currently have a hole at RG, so go find a rookie RG for competition (Damien Lewis please and thank you).

While we don't think it's ideal, brunskill has to be part of the equation at either tackle or guard. He played well for the most part (imo better at OT) he was damn good at PP at tackle too. The coaching staff and our OL coach love him. Kyle also loves Coleman.

If Joe retires tomorrow, sure it changes some things. Personally I don't think he will. Lynch said he's confident that Joe is coming back. So until he doesn't you have to assume he will.

As of today we know that we have zero starting CBs on the roster in 2021. Now I wouldn't be shocked if both OL & CB are heavily looked at in 2021 via FA/draft and obviously this yr (if the value is there).

I'm definitely agreeing here. I've said all along one could make a very valid argument when factoring sustainability, that CB is equal to or a bigger need than both OL and WR.

Originally posted by Bellaleo:

Originally posted by NCommand:

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I agree OL and CB are our 2 biggest needs. it comes down to what is harder to find? For me it's generally OL.

Yeah, WR and CB's seem to be available every off season in trades or FA for some reason and tend to go in bunches in the draft.

On the other hand, high quality OL are rarely available and go for premium trade and draft capital or cap space. Very little cost difference anymore...should just lump OL into one bucket now. And when you do find them, nobody lets them go unless you are the dumbass Browns and Rams and go for the skill positions instead. And that's a fail.

Originally posted by NCommand:
But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I would agree but there are fewer CB's worth a 1st round pick. Unless Okudah or Henderson drop. Then you could end up choosing between a WR, tackle and CB.

Originally posted by Bellaleo:

Originally posted by NCommand:

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I agree OL and CB are our 2 biggest needs. it comes down to what is harder to find? For me it's generally OL.

Staley
Tomlinson
Richburg
Garland
Brunskill
McGlinchey

Sherman
Mosley
K'Waun Williams
Ward
Tartt

Vs.

Deebo
Goodwin
Bourne
Pettis
James
Hurd IR
Taylor twice on IR

Yet OL and CB are the two biggest needs. Those two groups hardly changed from the Super Bowl only Mike Person has left.

Unbelievable!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Bellaleo:

Originally posted by NCommand:

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I agree OL and CB are our 2 biggest needs. it comes down to what is harder to find? For me it's generally OL.

Staley
Tomlinson
Richburg
Garland
Brunskill
McGlinchey

Sherman
Mosley
K'Waun Williams
Ward
Tartt

Vs.

Deebo
Goodwin
Bourne
Pettis
James
Hurd IR
Taylor twice on IR

Yet OL and CB are the two biggest needs. Those two groups hardly changed from the Super Bowl only Mike Person has left.

Unbelievable!!!

Outside of Deebo, that WR group is completely underwhelming. Either injury concerns or simply very average (Bourne), or stinks (Pettis).

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Bellaleo:

Originally posted by NCommand:

But they have a huge hole at RG potentially and Staley is about to retire. It takes a while to develop core OL unless you're Mike McGlinchey and you've been in a pro style offense and trained by a professional OL coach.

But one could argue CB is just as big of a need if not more, IMHO.

I agree OL and CB are our 2 biggest needs. it comes down to what is harder to find? For me it's generally OL.

Staley
Tomlinson
Richburg
Garland
Brunskill
McGlinchey

Sherman
Mosley
K'Waun Williams
Ward
Tartt

Vs.

Deebo
Goodwin
Bourne
Pettis
James
Hurd IR
Taylor twice on IR

Yet OL and CB are the two biggest needs. Those two groups hardly changed from the Super Bowl only Mike Person has left.

Unbelievable!!!

Lol. But those 2 groups(and JG) are the reason we lost the superbowl.

Want to keep the same group that cost us the SB.

The receivers were open to sakt the game away. 3 batted balls at the LOS cost us offensively. And well, I'm sure you're well aware of what coat us defensively.

That 13th pick WR is not going to tip the scale past what we had last year.

If we stay put all the way around and select a WR at 13 we will field a worse team this year than last. That is a fact.