Andrew Thomas-OT-Georgia

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Correction, the 9ers didn't have Richburgh in the Super Bowl. Btw. And you're not gonna say OL and CB are major needs off of one game right. So many things factored in why the 9ers lost that game and it's not because of just OL and CB need either. But again lets overlook the fact that the 49ers group of WR's they have now have loss key players, two are coming off of IR and no guarantees they start the season and make it to the 53. Let's also not forget about that weirdo Dante Pettis who's always in Shanahan's doghouse. OL and CB can be addressed later with a trade down at #31 and probably a trade down again.

This is the part i'll never understand! The deepest position CAN'T wait. Yet the others.... Just say, I'd rather have a better chance at a STUD WR in the top 3. Saying we can address other positions later (as if WR can't be addressed later) is just idiotic.

Originally posted by krizay:

This is the part i'll never understand! The deepest position CAN'T wait. Yet the others.... Just say, I'd rather have a better chance at a STUD WR in the top 3. Saying we can address other positions later (as if WR can't be addressed later) is just idiotic.

If they're looking to upgrade at RG, he's right. Also depends on what they're looking for at CB. We play a ton of cover 3, which doesn't require SF to spend a premium pick on CB.

I do agree the WR position is the deepest in the the draft.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Correction, the 9ers didn't have Richburgh in the Super Bowl. Btw. And you're not gonna say OL and CB are major needs off of one game right. So many things factored in why the 9ers lost that game and it's not because of just OL and CB need either. But again lets overlook the fact that the 49ers group of WR's they have now have loss key players, two are coming off of IR and no guarantees they start the season and make it to the 53. Let's also not forget about that weirdo Dante Pettis who's always in Shanahan's doghouse. OL and CB can be addressed later with a trade down at #31 and probably a trade down again.

This is the part i'll never understand! The deepest position CAN'T wait. Yet the others.... Just say, I'd rather have a better chance at a STUD WR in the top 3. Saying we can address other positions later (as if WR can't be addressed later) is just idiotic.

Where did I say it CAN'T (WR) be addressed later in the draft?? It's the deepest position yes, but what you're failing to understand is the talent from say, Jerry Jeudy to Justin Jefferson is very wide apart IMO, but if you compare the talent to Justin Jefferson and 2nd round hopeful Michael Pittman it's much closer. And what you're also failing to realize is how well Jerry Jeudy or Ruggs fitting in a Kyle Shanahan offense (IDGAF what Chris Simms says).

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Future 49ers legend Andrew Thomas.

Hey, you were the QW guy last year. Yes? 😉

Meh... I was with Pheonix that QW was good option last year. I just thought we needed an edge to be more well rounded and it showed.

I'm also fine with Thomas this year. I just assumed he wouldn't be there early on. I think he's better than Wirfs and Wills (I haven't watched much of the other tackle prospects) at this point.

Just like with QW the talent is there. We may not go offensive line this year but he's worth of 13 overall.

Wills is the best pass pro offensive lineman in this draft and it isn't even close imo. Wills>Thomas.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

If they're looking to upgrade at RG, he's right. Also depends on what they're looking for at CB. We play a ton of cover 3, which doesn't require SF to spend a premium pick on CB.

I do agree the WR position is the deepest in the the draft.

The entire time Monte Kiffin was DC for the Bucs(96-2008), they spent only 2 first or second round draft picks on DB's. And one of those two times was Monte's last year on Aqib Talib. The other was a mid second rounder on Brian Kelly.

Monte believed he could find and develop zone corners without the team needing to spend premium picks on the position.

Pete Carroll, a Monte disciple, has not used premium picks at corner either. They kind of have the Shanahan approach to adding running backs when it comes to finding corners for their systems.

Originally posted by evil:

The entire time Monte Kiffin was DC for the Bucs(96-2008), they spent only 2 first or second round draft picks on DB's. And one of those two times was Monte's last year on Aqib Talib. The other was a mid second rounder on Brian Kelly.

Monte believed he could find and develop zone corners without the team needing to spend premium picks on the position.

Pete Carroll, a Monte disciple, has not used premium picks at corner either. They kind of have the Shanahan approach to adding running backs when it comes to finding corners for their systems.

Yup, I mean we do play cover 1 on 3rd Downs, if we're planning on doing a ton more man, then getting a top end CB makes sense...don't think we're there scheme wise though.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Hearing from a lot of very difference sources this morning that Andrew Thomas could be the first OT off the board.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 15, 2020

As he should be. The others got more offseason hype, he's the best rounded in terms of scheme neutrality and combined ability as a run and pass blocker. More and more I feel like Wirfs could be the last of the top four tackles still standing.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Hearing from a lot of very difference sources this morning that Andrew Thomas could be the first OT off the board.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 15, 2020

Makes total sense to the Giants at 4.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Future 49ers legend Andrew Thomas.

Hey, you were the QW guy last year. Yes? 😉

Meh... I was with Pheonix that QW was good option last year. I just thought we needed an edge to be more well rounded and it showed.

I'm also fine with Thomas this year. I just assumed he wouldn't be there early on. I think he's better than Wirfs and Wills (I haven't watched much of the other tackle prospects) at this point.

Just like with QW the talent is there. We may not go offensive line this year but he's worth of 13 overall.

Wills is the best pass pro offensive lineman in this draft and it isn't even close imo. Wills>Thomas.

There's also a thing called run blocking. You may be right that Wills is the better pass blocker. But right now Thomas is seen as the more versatile player and is s solid run blocker.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Where did I say it CAN'T (WR) be addressed later in the draft?? It's the deepest position yes, but what you're failing to understand is the talent from say, Jerry Jeudy to Justin Jefferson is very wide apart IMO, but if you compare the talent to Justin Jefferson and 2nd round hopeful Michael Pittman it's much closer. And what you're also failing to realize is how well Jerry Jeudy or Ruggs fitting in a Kyle Shanahan offense (IDGAF what Chris Simms says).

I don't really agree that the Jeudy-Jefferson talent gulf is all that wide. You could make a better case for many other positions that project around #13. It's certainly not as wide as the top 4 OL compared to the rest of the OL in this draft, the top 2 DT and the rest of the draft, and the top CBs as well.

The 49ers need to significantly upgrade their WR talent, both at the top end, but also its depth. Deebo is pretty much the only above average WR on the entire roster. Take a few shots at WR with how deep the WR class is because quite frankly, the 49ers can't afford to come away with a lemon at #13. I'm sure the gulf between Solomon Thomas and the other available d-linemen was also really big at the time, but that's not really the way things work out during the draft, is it?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Hearing from a lot of very difference sources this morning that Andrew Thomas could be the first OT off the board.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 15, 2020

As he should be. The others got more offseason hype, he's the best rounded in terms of scheme neutrality and combined ability as a run and pass blocker. More and more I feel like Wirfs could be the last of the top four tackles still standing.

Which might be good as some speculate Wirfs might have the easiest transition to G initially.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Hearing from a lot of very difference sources this morning that Andrew Thomas could be the first OT off the board.

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) April 15, 2020

As he should be. The others got more offseason hype, he's the best rounded in terms of scheme neutrality and combined ability as a run and pass blocker. More and more I feel like Wirfs could be the last of the top four tackles still standing.

Which might be good as some speculate Wirfs might have the easiest transition to G initially.

Man that would be crazy cause I think Wirfs is the best one for us, especially considering what you said in him starting out at G first. I think dude can be an all pro at guard and him pulling in our zone would be just lovely

If Wirfs is somehow there at 13 we will snap him up like a snapping turtle. I know it's not as sexy as 4.2 speed but these types of structural picks make sure we sustain an extended super bowl window.

Originally posted by StubbornRussian:

If Wirfs is somehow there at 13 we will snap him up like a snapping turtle. I know it's not as sexy as 4.2 speed but these types of structural picks make sure we sustain an extended super bowl window.

Wirfs technique is very inconsistent. If you're drafting an OL that high... I really don't think you should draft one with questionable technique like that.