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Originally posted by FL9er:
I respect Matt Maiocco, but I think it's a stretch to say Lynch was specifically watching film on Becton. For all we know he could have been fast-forwarding through that possession to get back to when UK was on offense to scout that utility player Bowden, whom we've shown an interest in.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by FL9er:I respect Matt Maiocco, but I think it's a stretch to say Lynch was specifically watching film on Becton. For all we know he could have been fast-forwarding through that possession to get back to when UK was on offense to scout that utility player Bowden, whom we've shown an interest in.
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Originally posted by Sunshine:Pretty sure scouting tapes aren't cut up like that. You'll have all of a teams offensive or defensive snaps, not both.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by NCommand:Bless you.
Imagine how much this 'healthy' OL would absolutely dominate with this:
Staley - Thomas - Richburg - Tomlinson/Brunskill - McGlinchey
I'd prefer Thomas at LG for an easier transition to LT eventually. Tomlinson blows at pass protection but that's Brunskill's strength as a former T. Finally, Tomlinson has some real competition.
It ain't sexy but Benton would have a potentially dominant OL with quality, proven depth AND Kyle would finally be able to open up the receiving game (instead of having to keep in Juice, Kittle and Arby's for added pass protection help) and it fully opens up the play action (more time needed = equivalent of a 5 step drop/2.5+ seconds).
Staley already said he'd retire before moving to RT. I'm safely assuming this would apply to LG too.
And what happens if Thomas turns out to be just a guard at the next level? There's been plenty of draft talk about him just being a guard through out the draft process (I think he's a tackle). Same with all these top OTs (minus big cat) and he's pretty raw in general. Point is we can't assume that they can just go from guard to elite NFL LT play in a yr or so.
Then we dumped Buck and a top 13 pick in a RGI want to improve PP as much as anyone, but they have to be absolutely certain that they can play guard and OT at a high level to make an investment like that.
Lynch and Co need to think hard about this especially if they're gonna invest high in a OT and convert him to a guard for a couple yrs.
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
If Thomas is there at #13, Lynch will take him. You don't forsake a guy who could be your LT for 10+ yrs for a WR who could be gone in 3 or 4. JT would protect Jimmy's blind side and that's worth a heckuva lot more than a WR at that point in the draft.
Originally posted by NCommand:I don't devalue G play. I think it's just as essential as 3T these days although, IMHO, it's far easier to plug a high end 3T hole with multiple bodies in rotation vs. a high end G who'll rack up 1K snaps and game is built on chemistry of the 5 OL together.
I also don't see a huge difference in T and G in this scheme either.
But if he ends up "just being a G," great, that still makes the whole OL better. Draft or buy a T next year.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:If Thomas is there at #13, Lynch will take him. You don't forsake a guy who could be your LT for 10+ yrs for a WR who could be gone in 3 or 4. JT would protect Jimmy's blind side and that's worth a heckuva lot more than a WR at that point in the draft.
Then Lynch should have resigned Sanders.
Originally posted by NYniner85:That's where we will disagree.
Even Shanny brought up there are only a handful of top end DTs in this league and by top end I mean elite pass rushers.
There's a reason why you don't see guards go top 15 a lot (outside of elite guys like Q).
IMO if they use the 13th pick on what ends up to be a guard, lose Bucker in the process it would be a epic failure AND they still have to find a LT
I understand what you want and I want an upgrade at RG I sure as s**t don't want to use a 1st rd pick on that. Not in this draft.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Wait...why are we assuming that Thomas would be playing guard long term?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Wait...why are we assuming that Thomas would be playing guard long term?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Wait...why are we assuming that Thomas would be playing guard long term?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Wait...why are we assuming that Thomas would be playing guard long term?
Cause Staley will never retire
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hysterikal:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Wait...why are we assuming that Thomas would be playing guard long term?
Cause Staley will never retire
Never!
Originally posted by NYniner85:That's where we will disagree.
Even Shanny brought up there are only a handful of top end DTs in this league and by top end I mean elite pass rushers.
There's a reason why you don't see guards go top 15 a lot (outside of elite guys like Q).
IMO if they use the 13th pick on what ends up to be a guard, lose Bucker in the process it would be a epic failure AND they still have to find a LT
I understand what you want and I want an upgrade at RG I sure as s**t don't want to use a 1st rd pick on that. Not in this draft.
Originally posted by NCommand:Philosophical difference.
We have two holes. One guy won't fill both. Hell, might need 3 if Richburg continues to go on I.R. every year.
And you don't need dominant IDT to destroy our IOL. I just rewatched the condensed season and that really stood out (at least vs. last year's opponents). Kyle was using an extreme example to deflect but I think at this point, even he's starting to get it.
