There are 337 users in the forums
2020 draft rumors
Apr 6, 2020 at 12:08 AM
- HarboutTHAT
- Veteran
- Posts: 1,074
Would anyone here consider trading Jimmy G and 31 to the Bengals for 1.01... I love Jimmy but I would do it for Burrow plus rookie QB cap space...
Apr 6, 2020 at 12:18 AM
- English
- Moderator
- Posts: 40,571
- NFL Pick 'em
Originally posted by HarboutTHAT:Would anyone here consider trading Jimmy G and 31 to the Bengals for 1.01... I love Jimmy but I would do it for Burrow plus rookie QB cap space...
No, actually. I doubt there is the slightest possibility of the trade, but I would still say no. I am confident of Garoppolo "s future in the NFL as one of the best qb's around. Burrow doesn't entirely convince me, and recent high picks at qb haven't been doing all that well.
Apr 6, 2020 at 1:53 AM
- mayo49
- Veteran
- Posts: 64,886
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by HarboutTHAT:
Would anyone here consider trading Jimmy G and 31 to the Bengals for 1.01... I love Jimmy but I would do it for Burrow plus rookie QB cap space...
No, actually. I doubt there is the slightest possibility of the trade, but I would still say no. I am confident of Garoppolo "s future in the NFL as one of the best qb's around. Burrow doesn't entirely convince me, and recent high picks at qb haven't been doing all that well.
Burrow is a talent, but I like Jimmy better for us right now.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 6, 2020 at 2:18 AM ]
Apr 6, 2020 at 4:13 AM
- eastcoast49ersfan
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,112
Originally posted by HarboutTHAT:Would anyone here consider trading Jimmy G and 31 to the Bengals for 1.01... I love Jimmy but I would do it for Burrow plus rookie QB cap space...
Bengals would never do that. It makes no sense for a rebuilding team to trade for an average starting QB making $27 million/year when they're several years away from a possible championship run. The last thing you want to be is mediocre. You're much better off drafting an elite QB prospect which Burrow is who is cost controlled for 5 years and may turn out to be better than Garoppolo in addition to being 5 years younger. Plus we aren't sure how durable Jimmy is going to be- he missed most of 2018 with a torn ACL.
They probably wouldn't do it for 13, 31, and Jimmy. We tend to overestimate the trade value of our players and picks.
Apr 6, 2020 at 4:50 AM
- NYniner85
- Veteran
- Posts: 112,524
Originally posted by random49er:Well that was in college but college is over. With his slender frame he's going to have to gain some upper body strength to beat the press from bigger, stronger corners in the NFL.
He skipped the bench press @ the combine for a reason.
That and being ready for more contested catch opportunities that he didn't get much of in college are the 2 things to watch for in his rookie year. Everything else pretty much checks the boxes @ this point.
Getting of the LOS is more about footwork than anything else. I expect him to get bigger/strong he's only 21. Also yes it was college which is all we have of go off of. SEC at that
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 6, 2020 at 4:51 AM ]
Apr 6, 2020 at 4:57 AM
- NYniner85
- Veteran
- Posts: 112,524
Per Albert beer on his newest SI article...
The tackles could all be gone by 11, with the Jets and Browns both having needs and sitting right there on the fringe of the top 10. What's interesting is how they're each bringing something different to the table. Becton's a freakish left-side type, with what one scout called "Jason Peters potential." Thomas is solid, and also projects to play on the left, but is unspectacular. Wills is sort of a prototype right tackle, who can swing left. And Wirfs is a very good athlete who everyone sees a little differently (some like him as a guard), and is probably a little more scheme-specific (he'd be best with a zone team) than the others.
The tackles could all be gone by 11, with the Jets and Browns both having needs and sitting right there on the fringe of the top 10. What's interesting is how they're each bringing something different to the table. Becton's a freakish left-side type, with what one scout called "Jason Peters potential." Thomas is solid, and also projects to play on the left, but is unspectacular. Wills is sort of a prototype right tackle, who can swing left. And Wirfs is a very good athlete who everyone sees a little differently (some like him as a guard), and is probably a little more scheme-specific (he'd be best with a zone team) than the others.
Apr 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM
- 49ersFan_vienna
- Veteran
- Posts: 1,643
Man do I need to get someone to help me out with a BigBoard of an reliable Draft Expert.
I follow all the threads and i do understand the margins between WRs,... but cross Position rankings I get really lost.
Any hints to some good BigBoard?
Thanks in advance.
I follow all the threads and i do understand the margins between WRs,... but cross Position rankings I get really lost.
Any hints to some good BigBoard?
Thanks in advance.
Apr 6, 2020 at 10:44 AM
- OsBoogie
- Veteran
- Posts: 887
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Man do I need to get someone to help me out with a BigBoard of an reliable Draft Expert.
I follow all the threads and i do understand the margins between WRs,... but cross Position rankings I get really lost.
Any hints to some good BigBoard?
Thanks in advance.
Brugler didn't drop yet, and Zierlin and Pauline are a bit weird. I'd say to use Miller's for now.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883386-nfl-draft-400-matt-millers-latest-2020-big-board-with-1-month-to-go
Apr 6, 2020 at 10:50 AM
- eastcoast49ersfan
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,112
I like Jeremiah's top 50 although I think he has Thomas too low
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108021/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-2020-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-40
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001108021/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-2020-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-40
Apr 6, 2020 at 10:52 AM
- 49ersFan_vienna
- Veteran
- Posts: 1,643
Thanks. Jeremiah would have been my guess, but i really dont have an overview to all draft experts in farfar away :)
Edith: is there something, next to the nfl.com Prospects "grades" which sets the players in comparison by numbers and margins?
To see where the dropoffs are?
Edith: is there something, next to the nfl.com Prospects "grades" which sets the players in comparison by numbers and margins?
To see where the dropoffs are?
[ Edited by 49ersFan_vienna on Apr 6, 2020 at 10:55 AM ]
Apr 6, 2020 at 11:19 AM
- matt49er
- Veteran
- Posts: 7,457
Any teams out there you guys think we could get two 2nd round picks from for 31? Maybe we have to throw in a 5th but I wouldn't care about that. Would love having two in round 2 but doubt it could happen
Apr 6, 2020 at 11:35 AM
- random49er
- Veteran
- Posts: 14,112
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Thanks. Jeremiah would have been my guess, but i really dont have an overview to all draft experts in farfar away :)
Edith: is there something, next to the nfl.com Prospects "grades" which sets the players in comparison by numbers and margins?
To see where the dropoffs are?
Looks like the old trusty site nfldraftscout.com (before NFL.com started doing ratings) has migrated to draftscout.com.
http://www.draftscout.com/players.php?GenPos=QB&DraftYear=2020&sortorder=TSXPos&order=ASC
Also looks like they went away from the # rankings they traditionally did, and now assign letter grades. Either that, or you need a paying subscription to add them.
[ Edited by random49er on Apr 6, 2020 at 11:36 AM ]
Apr 6, 2020 at 11:38 AM
- krizay
- Veteran
- Posts: 25,340
- NFL Pick 'em
Originally posted by matt49er:
Any teams out there you guys think we could get two 2nd round picks from for 31? Maybe we have to throw in a 5th but I wouldn't care about that. Would love having two in round 2 but doubt it could happen
baltimore 55/60
seattle 59/64
i think best chance would be a 2nd/3rd
Apr 6, 2020 at 11:42 AM
- adrianlesnar
- Veteran
- Posts: 5,651
- NFL Pick 'em
Originally posted by NYniner85:Getting of the LOS is more about footwork than anything else. I expect him to get bigger/strong he's only 21. Also yes it was college which is all we have of go off of. SEC at that
I disagree with this statement. In fact, in most offensive schemes, your "prototypical" x receiver is your big, strong WR, not your agile fleet of foot receiver. Of course, the elite receiver is the one who checks both boxes.
Apr 6, 2020 at 11:52 AM
- CatchMaster80
- Veteran
- Posts: 16,904
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Man do I need to get someone to help me out with a BigBoard of an reliable Draft Expert.
I follow all the threads and i do understand the margins between WRs,... but cross Position rankings I get really lost.
Any hints to some good BigBoard?
Thanks in advance.
Everyone has their favorites and I don't know if one is really that much better than another. Everyone claims to have their 'inside sources' but every draft order can change as soon as one team goes outside the box and makes a surprise pick. If you just want player evaluations you still get differing opinions. One guy sees a big upside and another sees red flags.