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2020 draft rumors

Originally posted by OsBoogie:
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team

Still has Colts at #13....
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team

Still has Colts at #13....

Did you read the article??
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
having the 13th pick definitely changes a LOT of things though.
what "blue chip" guy do you expect available and how late?

depth shows more when trading down from 31 than trading down from 13.

My thoughts is trading down between 18-22. Blue chip is always debatable. Just like Ruggs and Jeudy are even debatable. My preference would be Fulton (or Henderson if available)

As for your last sentence, that too is debatable. If you trade down from 31, the best you're looking at is what a mid 2nd and mid-late 3rd? We'll use TB (45-76) for s**ts and giggles. So we pick 13, 45, 76.

Now if we trade down to say 22 with Min- There is all kinds of different offers we could get. But they are loaded with picks so more likely willing to part with his year's picks as oppose to adding next year's picks. Last year to go from 20-10 for Devin Bush Pitt gave up a 2nd and 3rd. With the Ammo Minny has I think that would/could be a reasonable expectation at 13 as well. Especially for them to replace Diggs. So we'll say we get there 22, 58, 105

22, 31, 58 & 105 shows more depth that trading down from 31 does it not? All that and we get a 5th year option on the player we select at 31. The ones that want to trade down at 31 use the 5th year option as an added bonus for the pick. Why can't we keep that added bonus.

Now the problem with that is, sure you could lose out on even the guys I want by moving down. But if you hit on all 3 of your players(perhaps even just 2 of them) they will be worth more than the difference Jeudy/Ruggs and the WR we choose with one of our 1st 4 picks.

Krizay - What you posted is spot on in my opinion. From a roster construction perspective, the type of plan you outline is what I believe the Niners should do. The likely trade compensation for 31 will be a back end 3rd at best (for this year), while 13 could net us a 2 and 3. This front office has done a pretty good (and improving) job the last couple years drafting players in the top three founds (McGlinchy, Samuel, Warner, Moore). Also, there's a greater probability of hitting on a blue chip player over three picks versus one pick even if that one pick is higher. If this team stays competitive we will lose more players to big contracts, so the front office needs to constantly pick up good cheap players through the draft. This also seems to be a deep draft at the WR position.
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Still has Colts at #13....

it's not a mock. lol
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
back to the thread topic:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team

Still has Colts at #13....

Did you read the article??

Weird

SAN FRANCISCO: Two picks in the first round could add much more firepower to an already good roster, but many league sources expect the 49ers to attempt to trade back from No. 31 overall after targeting a top wide receiver or cornerback at No. 13.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
when we had a late 31 pick and nothing until 156 yeah that's made sense to move down...Guess what buckshot...they can still do that AND I'm STILL advocating to do it!

How the hell do you know they can still get a blue chip player by moving down? How far they moving down? When's the cutoff on blue chip talent? You're making us stuff with that comment.

I'm fine with any of the three at 13 and have said that. They're ALL on another tier compared to the rest. I prefer both Bama WRs because they're more pro-ready imo. Wait is OT a NEED? Did I miss that? Yes let's just burn a top 13 pick on a position that isn't a need an make that player play another position that none have ever played? IMO that's stupid. Toss in no off season activities to transition to a new position. Should work out great

I see ONE DT worth the pick at 13 and that's Kinlaw. I also don't think it's smart to continuously invest high picks at DT. As we've just seen we can't afford all of them when it's time to pay them. Balance out the team with top talent, why is that a bad thing? I also like Blackrock and Madubuike just as much in our defensive scheme.

I brought up how we have a massive need at CB. So that point is moot. I also think based on our scheme we can find good cover 3 guys later. IF SF played more man and less cover 3 it would make more sense to invest higher at CB.

Finally...I got all day brother. I'm in total lockdown in NY and a honey-do list a mile long. Much rather talk about the draft vs replace every door knob in the house

Typical "New Yorker!"

As for the 49ers looking at WR/CB @13? It's just too bad those are priorities for the 2 teams that pick in front of them.
Originally posted by FL9er:
Typical "New Yorker!"

As for the 49ers looking at WR/CB @13? It's just too bad those are priorities for the 2 teams that pick in front of them.
OT/WR for Jets actually
NEW YORK JETS: Every source I spoke with still thinks the Jets go offensive tackle here, but I did learn throughout calls and texts this week that they are very high on Oklahoma wide receiver CeeDee Lamb. He's WR1 on the team's board and wouldn't be a surprise pick at No. 11 overall.
Originally posted by FL9er:
Typical "New Yorker!"

As for the 49ers looking at WR/CB @13? It's just too bad those are priorities for the 2 teams that pick in front of them.

What does typical New Yorker mean??

Sweet we got 3 top tier WRs and one of them is gonna fall right in our lap. IMO jets will be going OT at 11 anyway.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM ]
Did we draft Jeudy or Ruggs yet?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
What does typical New Yorker mean??

Sweet we got 3 top tier WRs and one of them is gonna fall right in our lap. IMO jets will be going OT at 11 anyway.

Niners don't operate like this, tho. For example, if they love Jerry Jeudy but he's picked in front of them, they aren't going to just grab Ruggs or Lamb for the sake of grabbing one of them. Same goes for those guys if they go earlier. They aren't going to simply grab the best guy remaining. That's not their MO. They'll bail and trade back before forcing a pick on a player who isn't their guy.

The closer to get to the draft, the more I am beginning to feel that the 49ers top target is not a WR.
[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 3, 2020 at 2:36 PM ]
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
What does typical New Yorker mean??

Sweet we got 3 top tier WRs and one of them is gonna fall right in our lap. IMO jets will be going OT at 11 anyway.

It was a lame attempt at a joke, bro.
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
Originally posted by FL9er:
Typical "New Yorker!"

As for the 49ers looking at WR/CB @13? It's just too bad those are priorities for the 2 teams that pick in front of them.
OT/WR for Jets actually
NEW YORK JETS: Every source I spoke with still thinks the Jets go offensive tackle here, but I did learn throughout calls and texts this week that they are very high on Oklahoma wide receiver CeeDee Lamb. He's WR1 on the team's board and wouldn't be a surprise pick at No. 11 overall.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107524/article/2020-nfl-draft-firstround-order-top-five-needs-for-all-32-teams

I like this team needs article, so many teams need OT in the top 14 picks. These are teams rated with oline as a top 2 need:

Bengals
Redskins
Giants
Dolphins
Chargers
Cardinals
Browns
49ers
Buccaneers
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107524/article/2020-nfl-draft-firstround-order-top-five-needs-for-all-32-teams

I like this team needs article, so many teams need OT in the top 14 picks. These are teams rated with oline as a top 2 need:

Bengals
Redskins
Giants
Dolphins
Chargers
Cardinals
Browns
49ers
Buccaneers

Bengals, Redskins, dolphins are not going OT. Giants highly unlikely. Chargers could go either way. Which leaves at least 1 but i predict 2 for us at 13 and TB almost definitely taking one at 14.

Putting us in a prime spot to trade down
Originally posted by Heroism:
Niners don't operate like this, tho. For example, if they love Jerry Jeudy but he's picked in front of them, they aren't going to just grab Ruggs or Lamb for the sake of grabbing one of them. Same goes for those guys if they go earlier. They aren't going to simply grab the best guy remaining. That's not their MO. They'll bail and trade back before forcing a pick on a player who isn't their guy.

The closer to get to the draft, the more I am beginning to feel that the 49ers top target is not a WR.

Unless they have Lamb/Ruggs right there on their big board which can very well be the case.
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
Originally posted by FL9er:
Typical "New Yorker!"

As for the 49ers looking at WR/CB @13? It's just too bad those are priorities for the 2 teams that pick in front of them.
OT/WR for Jets actually

NEW YORK JETS: Every source I spoke with still thinks the Jets go offensive tackle here, but I did learn throughout calls and texts this week that they are very high on Oklahoma wide receiver CeeDee Lamb. He's WR1 on the team's board and wouldn't be a surprise pick at No. 11 overall.

I hope that's true. Likely means if we want one of the Bama boys they'll be there.
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