If it came down to it, which would you choose and why...............

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

This. Its mind boggling that Thomas was considered a top prospect for so much of the season and then some other guys blew up at the Combine and suddenly he's an afterthought. If he's sitting there for some reason at #13, you can snag your left tackle for years to come. No reason why they couldn't plug him in at guard for a year so you're not drafting a backup with your first pick.

To be fair, Thomas started to "drop" well before the combine, but I think the debate is OT or WR given both are rated by the team equally as prospects.

To me it once again comes down to where the board has these guys.

Is Jeudy the #1 WR on Kyle's board?
Is Thomas the #1 OT on Kyle's board?

Do you take the #1 WR in a deep class or do you take the say #3 OT in a top heavy class?

I'd be fine with either pick(hell I prefer Ruggs but that's another story) and maybe it's partially short sighted of me but I'd rather deal with OT next year or the year after. We managed alright with Skule/Brunskill so it wasn't a total sh*t show when Joe went out.

Saints draft a probowl lineman every year So we should be able to find one eventually lol go with jerry and give him #80

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Drafting a replacement for Staley long term isn't upgrading the guard spot. Its putting the team in a better position to be competitive over the long haul with QB, edge rusher and both tackle spots locked up.

And this team is ready to win a SB NOW. Pretending you can just shove any OT at RG for two yrs isn't something I'd be willing to gamble on with the 13th pick. There's a real need at WR and they have a chance to get a top end talent. That helps the QB/Kittle/and PP as well.

Moving players around from the position that got them drafted as high as they did then moving them elsewhere

Draft a guard to play RG. If you want to make a transition from OT/G for the next two yrs do it without having to use a top 15 pick.

Originally posted by NCommand:

WR's are always available, even in FA or trade.

We barely even use WR's except to block which is why Sanders said he was stoked to go to a spread offense in New Orleans for 2 years with Drew Brees...vs. being a run blocker here.

2019: 2nd most rushing attempts & rushing yards. 4th fewest passing attempts [courtesy, eastcoast49ersfan]

We'll still get a WR...just later.

Guards are always available as well.

If we "barely" used WRs then why the s**t have they invested so many draft picks at the position? Why did they try to get OBJ?

Yes let's keep investing later in WR and keep getting guys like Pettis/Hurd/james/Taylor etc it's worked wonders they've shown real promise at getting those second and their tier WRs lol.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with getting a top end WR on a cheap rookie deal that can rock out with Kittle/Deebo. Trade down at 31 and get an upgrade at OG and DT depth.

After the 2020 season evaluate Joe and If he's gone make a play on a LT, it's a stacked class. Or go spend some cash (which we will have a lot of) at LT and CB. Joe's contract would be off the books as well.

IMO that's better than grabbing a OT and throwing him in at RG and hoping he plays well

I dont know. List your elite WRs that were mid or early first round picks.

Michael Thomas, Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen all 2nd or 3rd round picks. Deandre Hopkins was the 27th pick. Other guys that arent elite by my standard but were top 15 in receiving yards last year, Golladay, Godwin, Landry, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Robert Woods, Stefon Diggs. All outside the first round. DJ Moore was late first at 24.

Now who is the elite mid and early first round picks. Julio Jones, Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, OBJ (assuming he can put another good season together). Notice only 50 percent of those guy are with the team that drafted them.

I think theres a good chance the best WRs in this class and in next years class are taken outside the first round.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Guards are always available as well.

If we "barely" used WRs then why the s**t have they invested so many draft picks at the position? Why did they try to get OBJ?

Yes let's keep investing later in WR and keep getting guys like Pettis/Hurd/james/Taylor etc it's worked wonders they've shown real promise at getting those second and their tier WRs lol.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with getting a top end WR on a cheap rookie deal that can rock out with Kittle/Deebo. Trade down at 31 and get an upgrade at OG and DT depth.

After the 2020 season evaluate Joe and If he's gone make a play on a LT, it's a stacked class. Or go spend some cash (which we will have a lot of) at LT and CB. Joe's contract would be off the books as well.

IMO that's better than grabbing a OT and throwing him in at RG and hoping he plays well

I do agree a tackle at 13 wouldn't be the best use of the pick....this year anyway. I also agree that WR at 13 also wouldn't be the best use of the pick.

However, looking 10 years from now i think the better investment would be the OT. The OT if elite has the ability to stay elite 12+ seasons. A WR if elite starts to fall apart after about 8.

Short term the answer is go get the WR to help NOW. Long term take advantage of being able to get an elite Tackle.

Now, I'm sure you'll say you can do both. Get your WR this year wait for your OT next year. Which is sound advice. It's the same advice that can be given about the WR. Except you don't have to wait til next year. As this class is deep enough to get one that fits your system and maximize his ability.

I don't want either one so i don't even know why i jumped in here.

As you were...

Originally posted by scooterhd:

I dont know. List your elite WRs that were mid or early first round picks.

Michael Thomas, Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen all 2nd or 3rd round picks. Deandre Hopkins was the 27th pick. Other guys that arent elite by my standard but were top 15 in receiving yards last year, Golladay, Godwin, Landry, Cooper Kupp, Allen Robinson, Robert Woods, Stefon Diggs. All outside the first round. DJ Moore was late first at 24.

Now who is the elite mid and early first round picks. Julio Jones, Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, OBJ (assuming he can put another good season together). Notice only 50 percent of those guy are with the team that drafted them.

I think theres a good chance the best WRs in this class and in next years class are taken outside the first round.

Only 8 of the top 18 last year were 1st round picks

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Guards are always available as well.

If we "barely" used WRs then why the s**t have they invested so many draft picks at the position? Why did they try to get OBJ?

Yes let's keep investing later in WR and keep getting guys like Pettis/Hurd/james/Taylor etc it's worked wonders they've shown real promise at getting those second and their tier WRs lol.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with getting a top end WR on a cheap rookie deal that can rock out with Kittle/Deebo. Trade down at 31 and get an upgrade at OG and DT depth.

After the 2020 season evaluate Joe and If he's gone make a play on a LT, it's a stacked class. Or go spend some cash (which we will have a lot of) at LT and CB. Joe's contract would be off the books as well.

IMO that's better than grabbing a OT and throwing him in at RG and hoping he plays well

Top IOL rarely ever hit FA. You even got Bellicheat franchise tagging his G.

They "try" to get everyone but don't want to pay any in the end either. Not even $8M for Sanders, which is nothing.

Fair point on their ability to draft/identify a quality one in the 2nd round. Does that give you more confidence at 13? We at least know they can draft a quality T.

Either way, I'm personally wide open as long as they invest highly in both positions...or like you noted, other avenues like trade back scenarios, or buying one in free agency in the future, etc.

While we have clear philosophical differences in the value of G's, I'm just happy they'll finally be investing some real capital in offense.

Kyle, Benton and Welker have been working with a ton of 5th-UDFA's. Imagine what they can do with premier talent? One XWR. One C/G/T.

Originally posted by krizay:

I do agree a tackle at 13 wouldn't be the best use of the pick....this year anyway. I also agree that WR at 13 also wouldn't be the best use of the pick.

However, looking 10 years from now i think the better investment would be the OT. The OT if elite has the ability to stay elite 12+ seasons. A WR if elite starts to fall apart after about 8.

Short term the answer is go get the WR to help NOW. Long term take advantage of being able to get an elite Tackle.

Now, I'm sure you'll say you can do both. Get your WR this year wait for your OT next year. Which is sound advice. It's the same advice that can be given about the WR. Except you don't have to wait til next year. As this class is deep enough to get one that fits your system and maximize his ability.

I don't want either one so i don't even know why i jumped in here.

As you were...

LOL. Valid points.

We really should be entertaining positions Lynch might punk us on. It's happened before.

Originally posted by 49ERnation:

Saints draft a probowl lineman every year So we should be able to find one eventually lol go with jerry and give him #80

I think it would be cool to see 80 out there again.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

With the draft rapidly approaching, it appears that the Niners may have the choice of a future franchise LT in Andrew Thomas and potentially OBJ 2.0 in Jerry Jeudy. We all know the Niners could use a WR to replace Sanders NOW, but they will need to replace Staley sometime in the next two years. Which would you choose and why?

My choice would be Thomas based on the fact that there aren't many opportunities to get a premium prospect at LT. Once the top 4 OT are gone this year (Wirfs, Becton, Wills or Thomas), the talent dropoff is huge. There will be plenty of WRs available on day two that could work well in the Niners offense.

Your thoughts...............

FWIW we have seen you do not have to draft an OT inside the top 15 to find a franchise LT.

Joe Staley
Jason Peters
Anthony Castonzo
Nate Solder
Andrew Whitworth

What we need at WR IMO, is someone who can contribute opposite Deebo from day 1. Jeudy is the only guy who looks like he is closest to that.

That spot opposite Deebo seems to be our biggest weakness right now.

True statement. But in this particular draft, do you see any franchise LT's outside the top 4? With the Niners roster right now, do you see them drafting anywhere near the top 10 for the foreseeable future? I don't think the Niners will be drafting this high for the next 2-3 years.

Originally posted by krizay:

I do agree a tackle at 13 wouldn't be the best use of the pick....this year anyway. I also agree that WR at 13 also wouldn't be the best use of the pick.

However, looking 10 years from now i think the better investment would be the OT. The OT if elite has the ability to stay elite 12+ seasons. A WR if elite starts to fall apart after about 8.

Short term the answer is go get the WR to help NOW. Long term take advantage of being able to get an elite Tackle.

Now, I'm sure you'll say you can do both. Get your WR this year wait for your OT next year. Which is sound advice. It's the same advice that can be given about the WR. Except you don't have to wait til next year. As this class is deep enough to get one that fits your system and maximize his ability.

I don't want either one so i don't even know why i jumped in here.

As you were...

I don't see 8 yrs as short term for any position. Avg career for a NFL player is like 2 1/2 yrs. if you can get any players for the life of their rookie contract and a 2nd contract that's a win in my book.

I predict-

1.Jeudy won't even be there at 13. But...
2.If he happens to be, we still don't take em.

WR.. we select a T he be sitting on the bench, unless we move Staley.. WR gives us a chance to win NOW.. he can play right away and not be stashed for next year.