If it came down to it, which would you choose and why...............

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

again, this is assuming it's this way because that's how we want it. as NYniner has stated, there's a reason Kyle has tried really hard to upgrade the position. Those numbers are skewed because we only had Sanders for part of the year. What an improvement we had that part we did have him and he's old and not a #1 type guy. I mean, we traded a LOT away for a couple months rental for a reason.

No, it's this way because Kittle and Deebo are two of the best weapons in the game and because we're so dominant as a running team, needing a 3rd or 4th WR isn't as much as a priority as it would be for a spread offense like New Orleans where Michael Thomas is getting 185 targets a year (that's a real # too).

Jeudy then trade down from 31 for extra picks. Get a developmental like Bartch/Cleveland etc to sit behind Staley for a year or 2. When Staley retires, plug Bartch/Cleveland, Mcglinchey or even Brunskill at LT. If not one step up then we draft another OT the following year. We need a starter at 13 that can contribute right away and that is Jeudy.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Agreed. Also like I just posted in another thread, why upgrade at OL/OT when this O-line is fresh off a Super Bowl? 49ers group of receivers consist of:

Deebo - 2nd year rising star.
Benjamin - Pretty much camp fodder
Boune - Mr. Inconsistent
Pettis - Weirdo and in the doghouse all the time.
R. James - Mostly a Special Teamer

The point being made is that, why can't we upgrade WR with any pick other than 13? My ideal scenario, personally, is Ruggs at 13 (or 15 if Juedy is there and we can trade back with broncos) and Ruiz at 31. Can hope to get someone like Saahdiq Charles in the 5th, and if he's gone, target someone like Cosmi next year. But if we don't believe that Ruiz will be there, that Charles will be there, or if we believe Cosmi will be a 1st rounder that we'd rather spend on CB, im totally good with taking Wills, Wirfs, etc and 13, then targeting say Bryan Edwards or Brandon Aiyuk at WR, and then trade for Curtis Samuel or draft Chris Rowland in the 7th.

Only point I'm trying to make is that neither drafting OT or WR would be a bad move. It's fine that we all have our preference, but some are act liking there is absolutely only one correct approach to this draft. I mean, how else can we replace Emmanuel Sanders other than with a 13th overall pick in the draft.

Originally posted by NCommand:
No, it's this way because Kittle and Deebo are two of the best weapons in the game and because we're so dominant as a running team, needing a 3rd or 4th WR isn't as much as a priority as it would be for a spread offense like New Orleans where Michael Thomas is getting 185 targets a year (that's a real # too).

again, if that was the case, we never would have given so much up for Sanders.

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

Originally posted by NCommand:
No, it's this way because Kittle and Deebo are two of the best weapons in the game and because we're so dominant as a running team, needing a 3rd or 4th WR isn't as much as a priority as it would be for a spread offense like New Orleans where Michael Thomas is getting 185 targets a year (that's a real # too).

again, if that was the case, we never would have given so much up for Sanders.

Those two picks we traded are worth 157.5 points and we got back 28 in return so the net cost is ~130 (equivalent of 92nd or 93rd pick). Denver was also slated to pick 6th when we made that trade making the 4th and 5th round picks even more interchangeable. Either way, we essentially gave up a late 3rd round pick for a veteran WR who could help us during a Super Bowl run and mentor some of our younger WRs. That's not a lot to give up and it doesn't guarantee we're going to address the position at 13.

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

Originally posted by NCommand:

No, it's this way because Kittle and Deebo are two of the best weapons in the game and because we're so dominant as a running team, needing a 3rd or 4th WR isn't as much as a priority as it would be for a spread offense like New Orleans where Michael Thomas is getting 185 targets a year (that's a real # too).

again, if that was the case, we never would have given so much up for Sanders.

We HAD to give up that much because, quite literally, we had no bodies. Goodwin was playing hurt all year, deactivated and then went on I.R. Taylor and Hurd were on I.R. Bourne had to slide inside to SWR so Deebo could be featured at the Z. Pettis is useless and became a healthy scratch. Kyle, literally, had no XWR on the roster.

And even with that top talent, still barely used him.

Slight nod to Jeudy. Niners have been HORRIBLE about drafting and developing WRs. Not even sure if JJ will be there at #13 but if he is, we need to run up to the podium. His route running skills are what set him apart. Jimmy is still a young QB and I think he and JJ would be able to develop chemistry quickly ie having a receiver be in the right spot at the right time is HUGE.

Now if JJ is gone and Thomas is on the board, it's an easy pick!

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Those two picks we traded are worth 157.5 points and we got back 28 in return so the net cost is ~130 (equivalent of 92nd or 93rd pick). Denver was also slated to pick 6th when we made that trade making the 4th and 5th round picks even more interchangeable. Either way, we essentially gave up a late 3rd round pick for a veteran WR who could help us during a Super Bowl run and mentor some of our younger WRs. That's not a lot to give up and it doesn't guarantee we're going to address the position at 13.

I'm not saying it was too much or that it assures anything, but it clearly pointed that we needed a big boost at the position. Nothing tells me that sentiment should have changed.

Originally posted by NCommand:
We HAD to give up that much because, quite literally, we had no bodies. Goodwin was playing hurt all year, deactivated and then went on I.R. Taylor and Hurd were on I.R. Bourne had to slide inside to SWR so Deebo could be featured at the Z. Pettis is useless and became a healthy scratch. Kyle, literally, had no XWR on the roster.

And even with that top talent, still barely used him.

You are describing what we still have. Sanders before his injury was used quite a bit.

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

Originally posted by NCommand:

We HAD to give up that much because, quite literally, we had no bodies. Goodwin was playing hurt all year, deactivated and then went on I.R. Taylor and Hurd were on I.R. Bourne had to slide inside to SWR so Deebo could be featured at the Z. Pettis is useless and became a healthy scratch. Kyle, literally, had no XWR on the roster.

And even with that top talent, still barely used him.

You are describing what we still have. Sanders before his injury was used quite a bit.

You might want to check his stats the final 3 games and through the playoffs (when it mattered most). What did you find?

Ohhhh the ironing after all these philosophical debates.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Ohhhh the ironing after all these philosophical debates.

Is Matt Maoicco hinting at the fact that the #49ers will be trading out of the No. 13 pick?

This makes me think that SF wants to trade back into the late 'teens and acquire additional mid-round picks. pic.twitter.com/YLGJPqeAyN

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) April 2, 2020

Trading back makes sense but I don't think there will be demand for our pick unless a tackle is on the board. If I'm Denver, I'm not trading up to 13 for any of these WRs.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

Originally posted by NCommand:

We HAD to give up that much because, quite literally, we had no bodies. Goodwin was playing hurt all year, deactivated and then went on I.R. Taylor and Hurd were on I.R. Bourne had to slide inside to SWR so Deebo could be featured at the Z. Pettis is useless and became a healthy scratch. Kyle, literally, had no XWR on the roster.

And even with that top talent, still barely used him.

You are describing what we still have. Sanders before his injury was used quite a bit.

You might want to check his stats the final 3 games and through the playoffs (when it mattered most). What did you find?

Are we really going to blame that all on him ?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Ohhhh the ironing after all these philosophical debates.

Is Matt Maoicco hinting at the fact that the #49ers will be trading out of the No. 13 pick?

This makes me think that SF wants to trade back into the late 'teens and acquire additional mid-round picks. pic.twitter.com/YLGJPqeAyN

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) April 2, 2020

If the player(s) they want isn't there they'll trade back. This isn't exactly a new drafting strategy.

Originally posted by NCommand:
You might want to check his stats the final 3 games and through the playoffs (when it mattered most). What did you find?

dude had broken/brusied ribs.

pre-injury Sanders was very effective even considering he came in at week 8.

What your describing is what we are going to see game in and game out if they don't fix the talent level the 49ers have at WR.