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If it came down to it, which would you choose and why...............

If it came down to it, which would you choose and why...............

Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
I guess the question is..............is Jerry Jeudy really an NFL #1 WR? Obviously, he's not a Julio Jones or Megatron physical specimen. He can run amazing routes, but his hands are a little suspect. What say you?

Then again, there's been so much trade talk lately (......which I love) about the Broncos or Bucs leap frogging the Niners to get their guy. May not even come to this.

Jeudy could very well remind people why ignoring tape and letting the combine cloud your judgement time after time continues to be a bad idea.
I'm saying it now if Jeudy falls to us and we take him teams are going to regret allowing Kyle to get his hands on him and the teams behind us will hate the wr needy teams who let him slip to us. His route running alone will make his rookie year much easier than most wrs
Originally posted by NinerLegionnaire:
I have been saying oline for awhile now, but Jerry Jeudy is a true Blue Chip prospect and got my vote. While Andrew Thomas is a really good prospect, he isn't dominant.

Ultimately I believe the 49ers trade down a few spots with a team like Denver or really in between 15 and 21. Missing out on the top 3 but still coming away with a guy like Justin Jefferson.

I wouldn't put it past KS to be in love with Jefferson and was certain after the combine he wasn't going to make it to #31. Jefferson met with the staff at the combine and that could have have gone very well. KS also likes players who come from a Pro Style offense in college.

I think this WR class is the top 4 with Jefferson instead of the top 3
Originally posted by birdie2bogey:
Originally posted by NinerLegionnaire:
I have been saying oline for awhile now, but Jerry Jeudy is a true Blue Chip prospect and got my vote. While Andrew Thomas is a really good prospect, he isn't dominant.

Ultimately I believe the 49ers trade down a few spots with a team like Denver or really in between 15 and 21. Missing out on the top 3 but still coming away with a guy like Justin Jefferson.

I wouldn't put it past KS to be in love with Jefferson and was certain after the combine he wasn't going to make it to #31. Jefferson met with the staff at the combine and that could have have gone very well. KS also likes players who come from a Pro Style offense in college.

I think this WR class is the top 4 with Jefferson instead of the top 3

I don't have an issue with Jefferson but if Kyle takes him at 13 with any of Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb still on the board then I'm gonna be super upset. Maybe I'll be proven wrong in time but it would be another Kyle trying to prove he's smarter than everyone else. Didn't work with Joe Williams, CJ Beathard and Pettis isn't looking so good now.
Originally posted by genus49:
I don't have an issue with Jefferson but if Kyle takes him at 13 with any of Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb still on the board then I'm gonna be super upset. Maybe I'll be proven wrong in time but it would be another Kyle trying to prove he's smarter than everyone else. Didn't work with Joe Williams, CJ Beathard and Pettis isn't looking so good now.

I agree with you at #13. If that happened and they love Jefferson, then they trade back with those teams thirsty for one of those and get day two picks while getting "their guy." I wouldn't be that shocked if that's how that scenario played out even though I would be jumping with joy if all 3 were there at #13.

I still don't know who I'd prefer.
I'd go Jeudy. It appears Staley is playing next year. It also looks like we have a quality backup/potential starter in Justin Skule in case Staley goes down. It also looks like Brunskill could play tackle as well and be successful even though it appears he is pegged for right guard. We also have Coleman who the coaches seem to like a lot.

At receiver we have Deebo and Bourne. After that, a bunch of question marks. Hurd could be special but back injuries are no joke, Taylor hasn't been right for two years now, Pettis has the talent but not the drive, Goodwin's head is elsewhere and probably will not be on the team by the start of the season, Benjamin probably is best suited for the slot and James shouldn't be anything more then a 4th receiver at best.

We should probably grab two receivers again this year with how good the talent is at the position in this draft.
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I'd go Jeudy. It appears Staley is playing next year. It also looks like we have a quality backup/potential starter in Justin Skule in case Staley goes down. It also looks like Brunskill could play tackle as well and be successful even though it appears he is pegged for right guard. We also have Coleman who the coaches seem to like a lot.

At receiver we have Deebo and Bourne. After that, a bunch of question marks. Hurd could be special but back injuries are no joke, Taylor hasn't been right for two years now, Pettis has the talent but not the drive, Goodwin's head is elsewhere and probably will not be on the team by the start of the season, Benjamin probably is best suited for the slot and James shouldn't be anything more then a 4th receiver at best.

We should probably grab two receivers again this year with how good the talent is at the position in this draft.

Skule ranked as one of the worst tackles in football. He was absolutely atrocious when left alone 1 on 1. His main saving grace is that he saw few good edge rushers for much of the time he was playing. If Skule is your backup plan, you need a better one.
I want a corner badly
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I want a corner badly

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I'd go Jeudy. It appears Staley is playing next year. It also looks like we have a quality backup/potential starter in Justin Skule in case Staley goes down. It also looks like Brunskill could play tackle as well and be successful even though it appears he is pegged for right guard. We also have Coleman who the coaches seem to like a lot.

At receiver we have Deebo and Bourne. After that, a bunch of question marks. Hurd could be special but back injuries are no joke, Taylor hasn't been right for two years now, Pettis has the talent but not the drive, Goodwin's head is elsewhere and probably will not be on the team by the start of the season, Benjamin probably is best suited for the slot and James shouldn't be anything more then a 4th receiver at best.

We should probably grab two receivers again this year with how good the talent is at the position in this draft.

Skule ranked as one of the worst tackles in football. He was absolutely atrocious when left alone 1 on 1. His main saving grace is that he saw few good edge rushers for much of the time he was playing. If Skule is your backup plan, you need a better one.
Skule got the job done, did he not? He was also a late round rookie. Based off what I saw last year, I am perfectly fine having him as our swing tackle in case Staley or McGlinchey goes down. I expect him to be better based off the following reasons: another year in the same system, he can focus solely on football now without school and if he is fortunate enough, he will get a full NFL off season to work on his technique and body.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Skule ranked as one of the worst tackles in football. He was absolutely atrocious when left alone 1 on 1. His main saving grace is that he saw few good edge rushers for much of the time he was playing. If Skule is your backup plan, you need a better one.

This. I'd put both Coleman and Brunskill there before him
Either but I'm thinking they'll both be ghandi by pick 13.
Juedy

This media stir of "if" Joe Staley will return is BS. He's coming back and he's still a pro bowl level LT. He just signed a 2 year extension, he wants a ring and said when he signed the deal he intended to play it out, he's coming back. The need at OT is greatly over exaggerated. Skule played well and should continue to be developed before we invest heavily in the position.

The first round picks we take this year should be about winning the Super Bowl next season. The Niners need a WR, DT, those are their biggest needs and what they should look to fill immediately.
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Jeudy, better player at a position of need.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 6, 2020 at 10:39 PM ]
Everyone saying they'd prefer Thomas is also conceding we would then need to use 31 on a WR. It seems we all agree that WR is a position of need. If that is the case, take the stud WR at 13 that fits Kyle's system. This frees up 31 to go anyway you want.

I personally think Jeudy/Ruiz would be far better than Thomas/5th best WR. That's two starters versus a back up tackle/out of position guard and a "potential" contributing WR.
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Skule got the job done, did he not?


If you mean by holding up against mostly so so edge rushers while getting a lot of help, I suppose you could say that. But Shanahan did a lot of scheming to protect him and you don't want to be doing that for a tackle that is so crucial in this offense. Its a detriment to the offense if you can't leave your tackle on an island to win 1 on 1.

He was also a late round rookie. Based off what I saw last year, I am perfectly fine having him as our swing tackle in case Staley or McGlinchey goes down. I expect him to be better based off the following reasons: another year in the same system, he can focus solely on football now without school and if he is fortunate enough, he will get a full NFL off season to work on his technique and body.

He looks fine for a backup but I'm not holding out hope of him suddenly turning into a starting caliber NFL tackle. He was absolutely overwhelmed against Green Bay, like he'd never played the position before.
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