I don't want that....but anything can happen.
I want a difference maker at WR.
But if they are all gone, there almost HAS to be a franchise LT available.
If all 6 top tackles and top WRs are gone, odds are something fell. That might make the 13th pick good trade fodder for QB needy teams.
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Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 AM
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Apr 20, 2020 at 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Waterbear:I would rather get 4-5 quality starters than 2 "impact players".
You can't assume you're getting 4-5 quality starters when you keep trading down. Prospects typically aren't better the later you go in a draft great example of that was Seattle's draft last yr
That said if the guys they want are gone at 13, I'm fine with moving down. I've been all about moving down from 31 from the start
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Waterbear:I would rather get 4-5 quality starters than 2 "impact players".
You can't assume you're getting 4-5 quality starters when you keep trading down. Prospects typically aren't better the later you go in a draft great example of that was Seattle's draft last yr
That said if the guys they want are gone at 13, I'm fine with moving down. I've been all about moving down from 31 from the start
Well if Trent Baalke was our GM I wouldn't feel as confident wanting to trade down.
You also can't assume that drafting a player at 13 will be better than one at 23 or 33.
I think Reagor, Aiyuk, and Mims aren't that far off from the top 3.
If we're targeting a OT then I agree we shouldn't trade down.
Every draft is different and I believe in Lynch and KS to identify where they can maximize value by trading down.
And of any draft I can remember... this might be the best talent from picks say 30-60 and right now we don't have squat.
[ Edited by Waterbear on Apr 20, 2020 at 10:30 AM ]
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:32 AM
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Just got the hit the pick too. Bust happens every round. Solly and Trubisky at the top come to my mind first. Foster at the end of first along with Pettis in the second. But studs are found all over the draft relative to where they got drafted.Originally posted by NYniner85:You can't assume you're getting 4-5 quality starters when you keep trading down. Prospects typically aren't better the later you go in a draft great example of that was Seattle's draft last yr
That said if the guys they want are gone at 13, I'm fine with moving down. I've been all about moving down from 31 from the start
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
I would rather get 4-5 quality starters than 2 "impact players".
The thing is, a rookie WR is unlikely to be an impact player right away. It just doesnt happen very often. Not in the first year. Especially this year with whatever shortened camps and preseason we might be seeing. Not going for 1000 yards and leading this offense. If Ruggs is good for 800 yards and Aiyuk is good for 650, I'm good with Aiyuk if that means we are bringing in a starting OL or a DT like Madubuike or a CB like Bryce Hall or Arnette.
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM
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Would be the dumbest move they could make
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM
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Stay at #13 - get blue chip player at position of need.
Trade out of #31 - get 2nd and 3rd round picks.
Trade out of #31 - get 2nd and 3rd round picks.
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM
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The last time I can remember the 49ers trading out of a premium draft slot in a "stacked" draft class?
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Apr 20, 2020 at 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by FL9er:
The last time I can remember the 49ers trading out of a premium draft slot in a "stacked" draft class?
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Got Andy Lee. Totally worth it.
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Waterbear:Well if Trent Baalke was our GM I wouldn't feel as confident wanting to trade down.
You also can't assume that drafting a player at 13 will be better than one at 23 or 33.
I think Reagor, Aiyuk, and Mims aren't that far off from the top 3.
If we're targeting a OT then I agree we shouldn't trade down.
Every draft is different and I believe in Lynch and KS to identify where they can maximize value by trading down.
And of any draft I can remember... this might be the best talent from picks say 30-60 and right now we don't have squat.
No doubt you can't assume, you can use odds and projections though. There's a reason certain guys are higher on big boards. Less risk, less bust potential etc. that's just how it is.
I think there's a good drop from the top 3 WRs. I will disagree with that take.
I do agree there's some quality talent to be had from 2nd-4th..they can still get a difference maker at 13 and use that 31st pick to move down multiple times.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 20, 2020 at 10:50 AM ]
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by FL9er:The last time I can remember the 49ers trading out of a premium draft slot in a "stacked" draft class?
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Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53 AM
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Let's relax for now. Not overreact to every rumor online.
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Let's relax for now. Not overreact to every rumor online.
How is that fun?
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by TheXFactor:Let's relax for now. Not overreact to every rumor online.
I mean they're just listening to calls (which they should be).
Apr 20, 2020 at 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by FL9er:
The last time I can remember the 49ers trading out of a premium draft slot in a "stacked" draft class?
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To be fair we traded back in 2017. Of course Solomon Thomas was the pick, but he was the pick at 2 anyway. But we did end up getting Dante Pettis, Fred Warner, and Ruben Foster out of that deal and subsequent deals.
While is it possible that we trade further back, one option it to move a few spots back with the same target in mind. Back to 15 with the Broncos, 16 with Atlanta, 18 with Miami.