Grade 49ers 1st Round in the 2020 Draft!

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Didn't trade Buck cuz they didn't want him. Aiyuk will have better first season for SF than Sanders had last year. They did give up too much to get Aiyuk, that baffles me. 3 picks to move up 6 spots. Should a been 31 plus 5th or stay put and grab Mims if Aiyuk if is gone.

The total value of the picks up we gave up : 681 points.

The value of the 25th pick : 720 points.

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By comparison, the Packers gave up 658 points to move up 4 spots for a pick worth 700 points.

In 2017 Atlanta traded 31,95 and 249 for 26.

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In no way did we give up too much to move up, we paid less than chart value.

Originally posted by evil:

The total value of the picks up we gave up : 681 points.

The value of the 25th pick : 720 points.

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By comparison, the Packers gave up 658 points to move up 4 spots for a pick worth 700 points.

In 2017 Atlanta traded 31,95 and 249 for 26.

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In no way did we give up too much to move up, we paid less than chart value.

People are grossly overestimating the value of that 4th and 6th round pick. Not sure if it's because we have so few picks this year or because we got lucky and drafted Kittle in the 5th round.

We gave up 80 points to move up and get a WR we clearly liked more than the other WRs on the board (Mims, Higgins, Pittman). I would have stayed there at 31 or tried to trade down but they have their own rankings.

Loved kinlaw move didnt like the aiyik move or selection. B.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9moon:

C+
... just my opinion... I like the players but can't help and look at it this way.. THE ONLY WAY..

We traded Bucko who most fans here see him as a SUPERSTAR for Kinlaw..

Then we gave up picks including the ones to Denver for the stupid Sanders signing for Aiyuk..

to make a long story short, we gave up a bunch of picks and two proven players to go CHEAP in salary..

Exactly how you win long term in the salary cap era

and I AGREE... but will you be happy for the team under a good salary cap if Kinlaw and Aiyuk turn out to be as good as Solomon and Pettis ??

You never should be happy with busts. But making the hard decisions to let the really good vets go shows that Shanalynch want to win long term and I'm all about it

Solid A

Needed to replace 2 starters and did so with the players the organization wanted from the draft.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I gave it a C-.

Kinlaw is a really good player. He is very talented. I had him 22nd overall on my board. He has some injury issues in the past that need to be monitored. He has a great backstory of overcoming tough odds. These are all positive aspects to the player and pick.

However, when you have the best player on the board at the most important position of need, you pull the trigger. You don't play cute. The Niners need a wideout who you line up against their best CB and beats that player. No gimmick, no trickery. Just flat out wins. That is Ceedee Lamb. This is a lost opportunity.

You have to respect the Cowboys. They didn't need another star wide receiver. They needed defensive help. But, there was no way they were passing on Lamb when he dropped to them. Talent wins over everything else. The Niners had the opportunity to match talent and need, and flopped.

As for Aiyuk, he is a nice WR. A good WR. However, there were better wide receivers on the board (Mims, Pittman), and the team didn't need to sacrifice three picks to pick up a player at his talent level. We really could have used those extra mid-round picks.

As for me, I picked Lamb and Josh Jones, who will be a starting LT in the NFL. Would have been equally thrilled with Lamb and Winfield. The key player is Lamb. We were too cute, and therefore a lost opportunity.

C-

This is what experienced front offices do. You can tell the Niners FO panicked. That's what inexperience does, and it's going to be the downfall of this team.

Originally posted by Scottie15:

This is what experienced front offices do. You can tell the Niners FO panicked. That's what inexperience does, and it's going to be the downfall of this team.

What team just went to the super bowl and what front office kept a coach 5 years to long? Miss me with this nonsense.

I voted C- with an upgrade to possible A depending upon the "redshirts" Lynch speaks of.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Scottie15:
This is what experienced front offices do. You can tell the Niners FO panicked. That's what inexperience does, and it's going to be the downfall of this team.

What team just went to the super bowl and what front office kept a coach 5 years to long? Miss me with this nonsense.

I totally get it. It's the same argument everyone brings up "But we went to the Superbowl!" Well, how did that turn out for us?

Fact is we lost the superbowl. And a huge reason we lost was because of our terrible O-line, which we did absolutely nothing to fix when we had one of the best O lineman in the draft on a platter. Bruce Arians knew better and took his guy to protect his immobile QB.

First off, can we please quit the hyperbole about how much dumber we are than Jerry Freaking Jones. He is the one guy I do not want to base our draft and team construction philosophy on, so let's refrain putting his man parts in our mouths.

Now, I give the first round a B+. The trade down for Kinlaw was absolutely a slam dunk A+ home run. He would have been the target at 13, but we stole a 4th rounder anyway, and then we take the last bluechip prospect on the board. As for Aiyuk, he is not my fav receiver, and I would have preferred a trade down; I think a CB and the next tier of WR has the potential to be more impactful. However, I can't judge too harshly and let it affect my grade too strongly given the following reasons:

1. I can't assume a trade down was available. My guess is that, at the least, the chiefs would have looked to trade down; you're telling me they couldn't get a RB in the second? But they didn't trade down, and so maybe that means no one was looking to trade up, or at least for nothing of value. Maybe the niners are like me and valued Bryan Edwards in the third + another pick in the 2nd more than they value Aiyuk in the 1st. But if getting a pick in the third was going to be impossible without being ripped off, then you have to take what you can get where you are picking. Value aside, Aiyuk is definitely the better receiver, and so it's better to trade up slightly to get him then to take Bryan Edwards at 31.

2. We can't assume Aiyuk would have been there at 31. I don't care what you "have been hearing." What the freaking NFL teams have been hearing is that he wouldn't be there, so they made sure to get their guy.

3. Even tho I had players rated higher than Aiyuk, my evaluation is no more valuable than shanny and Lynch.

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

I gave it a C-.

Kinlaw is a really good player. He is very talented. I had him 22nd overall on my board. He has some injury issues in the past that need to be monitored. He has a great backstory of overcoming tough odds. These are all positive aspects to the player and pick.

However, when you have the best player on the board at the most important position of need, you pull the trigger. You don't play cute. The Niners need a wideout who you line up against their best CB and beats that player. No gimmick, no trickery. Just flat out wins. That is Ceedee Lamb. This is a lost opportunity.

You have to respect the Cowboys. They didn't need another star wide receiver. They needed defensive help. But, there was no way they were passing on Lamb when he dropped to them. Talent wins over everything else. The Niners had the opportunity to match talent and need, and flopped.

As for Aiyuk, he is a nice WR. A good WR. However, there were better wide receivers on the board (Mims, Pittman), and the team didn't need to sacrifice three picks to pick up a player at his talent level. We really could have used those extra mid-round picks.

As for me, I picked Lamb and Josh Jones, who will be a starting LT in the NFL. Would have been equally thrilled with Lamb and Winfield. The key player is Lamb. We were too cute, and therefore a lost opportunity.

C-

This is what experienced front offices do. You can tell the Niners FO panicked. That's what inexperience does, and it's going to be the downfall of this team.

How did we panic? Wtf.

I'm sorry Maddog but you're dead wrong. Maybe I missed your top players list somewhere but I would love to see 21 players better than Kinlaw.

Lamb would have been good but not at the cost of Kinlaw + a WR I truly feel they wanted as much or more.

There's a reason the 49ers were in the Superbowl and the Cowboys are always sitting at home. The "experienced" FOs draft players to fit their scheme. Lmao I can't believe you both are applauding the Cowboys when we know how that story ends every.single.year.

Losing respect for posters left and right who clearly focus more on public perception and combine numbers than actually watching and understanding the fit of these picks to our scheme. No one should be shocked that Aiyuk was our top guy if you watch his film.

The Niners are fresh off a trip to the Superbowl. The Cowboys went .500.

f**k.out.of.here.

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

This is what experienced front offices do. You can tell the Niners FO panicked. That's what inexperience does, and it's going to be the downfall of this team.

What team just went to the super bowl and what front office kept a coach 5 years to long? Miss me with this nonsense.

I totally get it. It's the same argument everyone brings up "But we went to the Superbowl!" Well, how did that turn out for us?

Fact is we lost the superbowl. And a huge reason we lost was because of our terrible O-line, which we did absolutely nothing to fix when we had one of the best O lineman in the draft on a platter. Bruce Arians knew better and took his guy to protect his immobile QB.

I kind of assumed you would hate the draft, whoever we took. I think the point the previous poster was making - and it was a good one - referred to your silly comment about them panicking. They built a team virtually from scratch in a remarkably short time. They took that team through the playoffs and to the SuperBowl. Didn't see much sign of anyone panicking. But the team and the FO are relatively young, and they don't have as much experience as some older groups. I don't see that as being anywhere near a downfall but I suppose if that is what you are looking to see you will see it, somehow.

The 49ers simply went BPA on their board. Expecting that to continue. We may very well not draft one of the positions fans want if the value TO THEM isn't there. The formula is easy. They have to have a shot to make the team and then they have to be the best available player at that spot among positions where they have an opportunity.

Feel like OG and LB are the two most glaring needs left. But based on our scouting process, wouldn't put it past them to go DB, TE, or RB if the value is there.

If We drafted the new Seymour and Garcon it is a good first round. But, we should have traded 31 for a second and third. There were good WRs to be had in the second and moving up and costing the team 2 mid round picks which we need more of for a position that was loaded made me drop it to a C-. I like the players I hate the use of those picks.

I totally expect us to trade away a player or 2 for a second or 3rd round pick now. Richie James and Breaia for a 3rd and maybe Goodwin for a 5th