Grade 49ers 1st Round in the 2020 Draft!

Without an upgrade in the pass blocking, fans will be saying the same thing again whenever we start playing. Jimmy's getting killed. Jimmy doesn't have enough time. Maybe that's another reason Kyle liked Aiyuk. He's a lot like Deebo in some ways and his ability to run the short crossing patterns fits right in.

Originally posted by genus49:
Time will tell. Fact is Kyle runs our offense and knows what he wants out of it. He did say he liked Lamb. You could take his comments as truth that Aiyuk was our top WR with Lamb behind him or maybe he's saying that because we got Aiyuk and Lamb was actually our top guy but he was gone by the time we traded up.

End of the day we may have had Lamb/Aiyuk close enough and simply felt getting a talent like Kinlaw to make the DL a strength again made more sense than taking the top WR.

Obviously if they weren't BSing about Aiyuk being the top guy then it's a home run. Time will tell whether the evaluation is wrong or accurate. Wouldn't be the first time a prospect or two that everyone was hot and heavy about ended up performing worse than guys drafted after them.

And as mentioned Lamb going at 17 and being the 3rd WR taken means other teams didn't see a guy who just flat out wins.

Obviously the fact they did not have any known contact with Aiyuk prior to the draft indicates they did not want to tip their hand at all. They saw him as their guy and wanted to do everything possible to avoid drawing attention to him prior to the pick. In the end, they had intel that said Miami also wanted him so they moved up and got him. The truth will be told on the field in the coming year/years.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Grade before film study...C
After film study....A+

Overall A+

Suggestion for those that didn't like our draft: Go spend a couple hours watching all the film you can find on each of them , and if you aren't taken by both guys i will be amazed.

Love your take and optimism!

My complaints such as they are aren't about the players themselves as much as with the allocation of draft capital.

To me Kinlaw is an elite DT prospect no question, he looks awesome on film! BUT, DT simply isn't a premium position--there's exactly 1 game-changing DT in the NFL and that's Aaron Donald who may be one of the greatest football players to ever live. A good OT, WR, or CB is more valuable than an great DT.

Aiyuk, I can see the positive qualities and easily see why Shanahan likes him. He has exciting game film, BUT so does Laviska Shanault, Denzel Mims, Michael Pittman Jr., Tee Higgins, (RB/WR) Antonio Gibson, and arguably a handful of other WRs. So why trade UP, sacrificing our already scarce draft capital to do so, when it's debatable at best, ridiculous at worst, that Aiyuk was the most valuable WR available.

I'm fine with the 1st round (B/B-). We got players we like--but that should go without saying, it's not the measure for how good a draft was.
Imo we could have--and therefore should have--come away with more value than we did.

Originally posted by jcs:
C+

These two first round picks were used to replace E.Sanders and D.Buckner two better players today who we already had available to us. On the Sanders side it's cost us 3 early mid round draft picks to replace him with an unproven rookie.

It's ok to be hopeful for these picks but we can't expect either of them to produce like the players they are attempting to replace next season.

Why not? Sure its a crap shoot but there are rarely players who fall into the cant miss category.

Buck and Sanders were great players but if our coaches/GM saw them as indispensable to the roster they would have found a way to keep them.

With a salary cap, teams either keep players and keep piling on cap and at some point collapse when your team gets old and overpaid or you can churn the roster, stay young and hopefully remain in the hunt.

I just keep thinking of how Chris Jones ruined our chances in the SB and think this kid has that potential.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by genus49:

Time will tell. Fact is Kyle runs our offense and knows what he wants out of it. He did say he liked Lamb. You could take his comments as truth that Aiyuk was our top WR with Lamb behind him or maybe he's saying that because we got Aiyuk and Lamb was actually our top guy but he was gone by the time we traded up.

End of the day we may have had Lamb/Aiyuk close enough and simply felt getting a talent like Kinlaw to make the DL a strength again made more sense than taking the top WR.

Obviously if they weren't BSing about Aiyuk being the top guy then it's a home run. Time will tell whether the evaluation is wrong or accurate. Wouldn't be the first time a prospect or two that everyone was hot and heavy about ended up performing worse than guys drafted after them.

And as mentioned Lamb going at 17 and being the 3rd WR taken means other teams didn't see a guy who just flat out wins.

Obviously the fact they did not have any known contact with Aiyuk prior to the draft indicates they did not want to tip their hand at all. They saw him as their guy and wanted to do everything possible to avoid drawing attention to him prior to the pick. In the end, they had intel that said Miami also wanted him so they moved up and got him. The truth will be told on the field in the coming year/years.

You never know if they actually did have a Skype interview. Meeting with people isn't really an indicator for anything as you meet with people for a variety of reasons. You could request a meeting with somebody because his evaluation gave you questions worth exploring. Or it could be simply be that you want to meet the guy you love on film to see if he'd be a good fit in your organization.

To your point, it sure sounds like they didn't want to telegraph their intentions. Conversely, it is widely known that the team paid a lot of attention to Ruggs and when the Raiders selected him, they changed their plans to target Aiyuk. Those two are very similar In terms of being YAC monsters who could do a lot in a WC Offense.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Scottie15:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

I gave it a C-.

Kinlaw is a really good player. He is very talented. I had him 22nd overall on my board. He has some injury issues in the past that need to be monitored. He has a great backstory of overcoming tough odds. These are all positive aspects to the player and pick.

However, when you have the best player on the board at the most important position of need, you pull the trigger. You don't play cute. The Niners need a wideout who you line up against their best CB and beats that player. No gimmick, no trickery. Just flat out wins. That is Ceedee Lamb. This is a lost opportunity.

You have to respect the Cowboys. They didn't need another star wide receiver. They needed defensive help. But, there was no way they were passing on Lamb when he dropped to them. Talent wins over everything else. The Niners had the opportunity to match talent and need, and flopped.

As for Aiyuk, he is a nice WR. A good WR. However, there were better wide receivers on the board (Mims, Pittman), and the team didn't need to sacrifice three picks to pick up a player at his talent level. We really could have used those extra mid-round picks.

As for me, I picked Lamb and Josh Jones, who will be a starting LT in the NFL. Would have been equally thrilled with Lamb and Winfield. The key player is Lamb. We were too cute, and therefore a lost opportunity.

C-

This is what experienced front offices do. You can tell the Niners FO panicked. That's what inexperience does, and it's going to be the downfall of this team.

How did we panic? Wtf.

I'm sorry Maddog but you're dead wrong. Maybe I missed your top players list somewhere but I would love to see 21 players better than Kinlaw.

Lamb would have been good but not at the cost of Kinlaw + a WR I truly feel they wanted as much or more.

There's a reason the 49ers were in the Superbowl and the Cowboys are always sitting at home. The "experienced" FOs draft players to fit their scheme. Lmao I can't believe you both are applauding the Cowboys when we know how that story ends every.single.year.

Losing respect for posters left and right who clearly focus more on public perception and combine numbers than actually watching and understanding the fit of these picks to our scheme. No one should be shocked that Aiyuk was our top guy if you watch his film.

There is a clear difference between watching tape and following numbers/measurables. Excellent post!

Also to add on, I've heard Lynch say many times that "our goal is to strengthen our strengths." Drafting both Kinlaw and Aiyuk is doing exactly that.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:

Originally posted by obx49:

B+

Positive:
Good draft so far, Kinlaw is a freak. I can't imagine what opposing OLs are going do with Bosa and Kinlaw. No living person can block him one on one if he's coached up right. So who are are you going to double team Bosa or Kinlaw?

Negative:
I don't really like the move up to draft Aiyuk. I think our biggest need is QB. If we were to move up the draft and gain major value than the pick should've been Love not Aiyuk. Jacob Fromm is still available. He doesn't have all the tangibles that you look for in a qb, but he definitely has that "it" factor that Brady had. I just hope he's still available by the time we draft.

DAFUQ ? you got to be joking?

He's drinkin that Cohn Hateraid

Lol, sure. I'm not a jimmy hater at all. In fact, if you look at my posts from last season, you'll see I was his biggest supporter.

Let's be honest, he is by far the weakest playmaker on the team that occupies the most important position. Not saying he should be replaced, but he should be put on a short leash.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Without an upgrade in the pass blocking, fans will be saying the same thing again whenever we start playing. Jimmy's getting killed. Jimmy doesn't have enough time. Maybe that's another reason Kyle liked Aiyuk. He's a lot like Deebo in some ways and his ability to run the short crossing patterns fits right in.

There is not a lot of that to look at.

The problem with Aiyuk is you have to spend a lot of time, working around the offense he was in and his QB.

Its hard to look at his tape and see him as a guy that will save Jimmy G by getting open early against NFL DBs.

Could he? Sure maybe.....

but

You don't have a lot of tape on that.

Most of the tape you do have of the guy in "WCO" type patterns is him getting the ball a split second before some one tries to take his head off.

That old term "throw the guy open" you don't have a lot of that.

What you do have looks like early Steve Young and Jerry Rice, were Steve would come apologize because he almost got Jerry Killed. Aiyuk has a willingness to go get the ball, but his QB lead him to danger on a lot of passes.

Its easy to like Aiyuk, but I don't expect a lot of early success. I suspect we will need Deebo to step up, because Aiyuk is going to have training wheels on for a while. I would be ecstatic if we got Deebo like production out of him year one.

In the long term, I really like the skill position players the 49ers now have, so i am happy we got him. Like most posters, I would have preferred Lamb

This draft is worth 10,000 schmeckles. No more no less.

I give it a who the f**k knows grade, just like everybody else should be doing.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Without an upgrade in the pass blocking, fans will be saying the same thing again whenever we start playing. Jimmy's getting killed. Jimmy doesn't have enough time. Maybe that's another reason Kyle liked Aiyuk. He's a lot like Deebo in some ways and his ability to run the short crossing patterns fits right in.

4 years and this o line is still s**t. Smh

I need some damn trade news

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I think if Aiyuk had a better QB at ASU he woulda been in the conversation with the top 3. Ruggs, Jeudy, Lamb and Jefferson all had future NFL QBs throwing them the rock. Aiyuk had a guy who's gonna work construction and talk about how his coach held him back or he would have gone pro.

what? Jayden Daniels is a 4 star recruit. Was ranked #2 dual threat QB coming out of HS. First ever QB at ASU to win the starting job as a true freshman. Set all kinds of freshman records there. Threw for 3000 yards, 17 TD, and 2 INT. 3 rushing TDs. Named a Freshman All-American by ESPN. Honorable mention by the Pac 12 for Freshman Offensive Player of the Year. Yards per completion was top 10 nationally. Yards per attempt was top 15 nationally. His passer efficiency was in the top 25 nationally. Besides being a string bean, Daniels was incredibly impressive. Have seen multiple 2022 mock drafts have him going in the first round. Colin Cowherd called him a future No 1 pick. Watch Aiyuk's highlights again, thats not a construction worker throwing the rock.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I give it a who the f**k knows grade, just like everybody else should be doing.

we could all agree to do that......

but what the hell would we do until next year.....

I think you will find using your imagination to a fun and worthy mental endeavor.

Originally posted by scooterhd:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

I think if Aiyuk had a better QB at ASU he woulda been in the conversation with the top 3. Ruggs, Jeudy, Lamb and Jefferson all had future NFL QBs throwing them the rock. Aiyuk had a guy who's gonna work construction and talk about how his coach held him back or he would have gone pro.

what? Jayden Daniels is a 4 star recruit. Was ranked #2 dual threat QB coming out of HS. First ever QB at ASU to win the starting job as a true freshman. Set all kinds of freshman records there. Threw for 3000 yards, 17 TD, and 2 INT. 3 rushing TDs. Named a Freshman All-American by ESPN. Honorable mention by the Pac 12 for Freshman Offensive Player of the Year. Yards per completion was top 10 nationally. Yards per attempt was top 15 nationally. His passer efficiency was in the top 25 nationally. Besides being a string bean, Daniels was incredibly impressive. Have seen multiple 2022 mock drafts have him going in the first round. Colin Cowherd called him a future No 1 pick. Watch Aiyuk's highlights again, thats not a construction worker throwing the rock.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/4562857002

Named least accurate passer in the PAC 12. Lol he better improve if he wants to be a future #1