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Dec 21, 2020 at 7:01 AM

NCommand
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
AND this is the s**t I'm talking about...you don't have to spend a top 10 pick this yr

The #2021NFLDraft Class of OTs is pushing into the 'insane level' of depth... I don't know if it's as top heavy in the past - but wow it is deep

Will it be possible to have nearly 40 draftable grades on OTs prospects?! And many OL rooms in the NFL desperately need it... pic.twitter.com/Ut5YKBnR6e
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 21, 2020

SOME fans need to do their research instead of just looking at whomever is the top prospect at a certain group they've been hounding at getting and look at everything.

It depends on how good the top guys are and how quickly you need them to start but to your point, it sounds like the drop off from tier 1 and 2 isn't super high and the pool is incredibly deep and talented.

Thanks for this.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 22, 2020 at 11:04 AM ]

Dec 21, 2020 at 7:01 AM

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OnTheClock
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
AND this is the s**t I'm talking about...you don't have to spend a top 10 pick this yr

The #2021NFLDraft Class of OTs is pushing into the 'insane level' of depth... I don't know if it's as top heavy in the past - but wow it is deep

Will it be possible to have nearly 40 draftable grades on OTs prospects?! And many OL rooms in the NFL desperately need it... pic.twitter.com/Ut5YKBnR6e
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 21, 2020

SOME fans need to do their research instead of just looking at whomever is the top prospect at a certain group they've been hounding at getting and look at everything.

We need to draft two of these, and a center.

Rather spend money on a FA center (If Richburg is done) grab a IOL/OT in the mid rds. Depth is there for the three main position groups we want upgrade in OL/EDGE/DB (after of course upgrading at QB).

Would be great if we had money, but at this point, we're likely going to have to draft our way out of this hole.

Dec 21, 2020 at 7:06 AM

#168

NYniner85
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Would be great if we had money, but at this point, we're likely going to have to draft our way out of this hole.

plenty of money if Jimmy is gone...throw in Gould/Richburg and a Tomlinson extension you're looking at almost $60M in cap space for 2021.

Ford June-1st cut pays for Warner (and then some). Before resigning/upgrades they're gonna have around $120M in cap space in 2022.

Rookie QB resets the cap massively and allows for other positions to have higher quality talent.

Dec 21, 2020 at 7:31 AM

#169

NYniner85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
It depends on how good the top guys are and how quickly you need them to start but to but to your point, it sounds like the drop off from tier 1 and 2 isn't super high and the pool is incredibly deep and talented.

Thanks for this.

Sewell is the only guy that's worth a top10 pick imo.

Dec 21, 2020 at 7:34 AM

#170

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Would be great if we had money, but at this point, we're likely going to have to draft our way out of this hole.

plenty of money if Jimmy is gone...throw in Gould/Richburg and a Tomlinson extension you're looking at almost $60M in cap space for 2021.

Ford June-1st cut pays for Warner (and then some). Before resigning/upgrades they're gonna have around $120M in cap space in 2022.

Rookie QB resets the cap massively and allows for other positions to have higher quality talent.

Yeah but I cannot imagine us going into the season with a rookie QB as a starter. They want to win and I think the fact that the backup QB has almost singlehandedly cost us a playoff berth, despite all the other injuries, it would be hard for me to believe they would bank on a rookie for next year.

Dec 21, 2020 at 7:50 AM

#171

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If the 49ers don't take a QB in the first round and decide to take a DB, then I wouldn't mind if they went with Landon Dickerson, Alabama's center in round 2. He hurt his knee and won't play any more this year but he'll probably be fine next year. Aside form his physical play I liked the way the team rallied around him when he got hurt. That's not something you see with O linemen very often. It tells me he was really respected and a true leader. That's what the O line needs.

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:10 AM

#172

NYniner85
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Yeah but I cannot imagine us going into the season with a rookie QB as a starter. They want to win and I think the fact that the backup QB has almost singlehandedly cost us a playoff berth, despite all the other injuries, it would be hard for me to believe they would bank on a rookie for next year.

Who cares? If the roster is good around a rookie QB I see no reason why they can't win?

Jimmy came in and won 5 straight not knowing a single thing about this offense. Following yr played 2 in a half games. It's not like he was seasoned vet with a bunch of games under his belt.

The NFL is heading in a different direction, these young QBs can play. Look at Hurts right now. Herbert and Burrow. They're weren't close to the reason for them losing...bad coaching and or a bad roster around them.

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:12 AM

#173

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
If the 49ers don't take a QB in the first round and decide to take a DB, then I wouldn't mind if they went with Landon Dickerson, Alabama's center in round 2. He hurt his knee and won't play any more this year but he'll probably be fine next year. Aside form his physical play I liked the way the team rallied around him when he got hurt. That's not something you see with O linemen very often. It tells me he was really respected and a true leader. That's what the O line needs.

Dickerson is a walking injury dude. I watched him at FSU and he's been hurt a ton.

How about we not spend a 2nd on a always banged up center

already got one of those on the team.

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:14 AM

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OT #2

Easy to see why @dpbrugler is hearing 1st Round buzz from VaTech OT Christian Darrisaw.

Massive, mauling OT with good quickness/balance - big but not sloppy

I think Chazz Surratt will be seeing him in his nightmares. Darrisaw did some good work on 2nd/3rd levels in loss vs UNC pic.twitter.com/qk7Sk94XLG
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) October 11, 2020

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:16 AM

#175

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dickerson is a walking injury dude. I watched him at FSU and he's been hurt a ton.

How about we not spend a 2nd on a always banged up center already got one of those on the team.

I didn't know he was injured a lot at FSU. That makes a difference. Maybe he slides back and they can get him in the later rounds 5-7.

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:17 AM

#176

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Find you someone who blocks for you like Christian Darrisaw (#77) blocks for Khalil Herbert on this play. He blocks #14 out of existence 👀 pic.twitter.com/YmhoxHnJ7l
— Treadmill Horse (@treadmillhorse) October 19, 2020

This @HokiesFB offense needs some more buzz!

LT Christian Darrisaw #77
LG Lecitus Smith #54
RB Khalil Herbert #21

These 3 have been on a tear in 2020! Herbert leads CFB in 10+yd runs. Love seeing Darrisaw block the same player in space 3 times on the screen TD last week... pic.twitter.com/aL7UCOEENC
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) October 21, 2020

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:27 AM

#177

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I didn't know he was injured a lot at FSU. That makes a difference. Maybe he slides back and they can get him in the later rounds 5-7.

Yeah medicals are gonna be big for him.

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:34 AM

#178

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I didn't know he was injured a lot at FSU. That makes a difference. Maybe he slides back and they can get him in the later rounds 5-7.

Yeah medicals are gonna be big for him.

It's a shame because the guy can maul. He apparently wasn't having any lasting issues from his previous injuries. I was just impressed by the way his teammates rallied around him like they would with a star RB or QB. A guy like that would be nice to have if they could snag him in a later round.

Dec 21, 2020 at 8:58 AM

#179

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Find you someone who blocks for you like Christian Darrisaw (#77) blocks for Khalil Herbert on this play. He blocks #14 out of existence 👀 pic.twitter.com/YmhoxHnJ7l
— Treadmill Horse (@treadmillhorse) October 19, 2020

This @HokiesFB offense needs some more buzz!

LT Christian Darrisaw #77
LG Lecitus Smith #54
RB Khalil Herbert #21

These 3 have been on a tear in 2020! Herbert leads CFB in 10+yd runs. Love seeing Darrisaw block the same player in space 3 times on the screen TD last week... pic.twitter.com/aL7UCOEENC
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) October 21, 2020

He looks pretty athletic and talented but his pad level sucks. Not sure he's gonna get away with that at the next level.

Dec 21, 2020 at 9:35 AM

#180

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
AND this is the s**t I'm talking about...you don't have to spend a top 10 pick this yr

The #2021NFLDraft Class of OTs is pushing into the 'insane level' of depth... I don't know if it's as top heavy in the past - but wow it is deep

Will it be possible to have nearly 40 draftable grades on OTs prospects?! And many OL rooms in the NFL desperately need it... pic.twitter.com/Ut5YKBnR6e
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 21, 2020

SOME fans need to do their research instead of just looking at whomever is the top prospect at a certain group they've been hounding at getting and look at everything.

Wow!