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Trey Lance QB NDSU

Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I disagree there. I think he's got better upside than Love but he's still exceedingly raw. You draft a guy like Lance with the plan of him sitting for a year behind a veteran QB and then shaping your offense around him, giving him constant opportunities to run with the football and then take some shots down the field off of playaction and letting him develop as a passer. He's not plug and play by any stretch of the imagination but you're not drafting him for that upcoming season, you're drafting him for what he can be 2 years down the road.

I feel like if NDSU was playing games right now, he'd be getting a whole lot more hype and hopefully showing some degree of improvement from last season.

Meh. I value your opinion but I just don't see it. I'll give you the athleticism aspect. However, I just don't see very many wow "throws." The majority of his throws are scripted and well designed reads with a lot of separation (not necessarily a bad thing, just noting). Go watch Jordan Love's tape from last year. He made "wow throws" almost every drive. He threw on the run and off his back foot with ease. He threw balls to receivers that were well covered and "threw them open." I don't think it is even close in regards to the level of each's pro potential. Lance reminds me of a poor man's Dak Prescott. And I don't mean that as a compliment. He just reeks of a guy who will never reach the high ceiling people put on him.

No matter how you look at the Jimmy G situation, we can't afford to take a raw QB that needs to sit for a year.

1. If we keep Jimmy G, drafting a QB (let alone a raw one) would be senseless. Under this scenario (with a starting QB on the roster) the team would be better served to fill a need at CB,OL,S or EDGE with a first rounder. Warts and all, we did get the the Super Bowl with Jimmy at the helm.

2. If we cut/trade Jimmy G, we will need a QB to come in and play right away. Sure the front office could draft a "project" QB like Lance and sign a veteran to bridge the gap. However, that would make zero sense with the way the roster is constructed. This team is built to win now. The only QB's that could legitimately come in and play from the get go are Lawrence and Fields. Maybe Wilson.

You know what offense has a lot of scripted throws??... ours. Actually the majority of the nfl offenses has scripted plays and throws. Ndsu runs a pro style offense.

Yeah love makes sexy throws but he is raw, makes some f**king bad decisions and is wildly inconsistent with his accuracy while Lance is mobile, smart, accurate, and had a good ass arm. He is capable of making "wow" throws but the offense he runs doesn't rely on that.

Lol even though Lance is raw, kid would be an upgrade from Jimmy immediately imo. We have a strong run game and Lance already runs the playaction from under center as good or better than anyone in the draft. His threat of running it if the read is not there and ability/willingness to throw it deep already makes our offense much more dangerous than it ever was/will be with Jimmy running the playaction. Lance would fit this offense like a glove in my opinion
Who ever draft this guy that team and fan base will have to be very patient in his development. He really needs to sit behind an NFL vet QB for at least one season if not two. He has just missed way to much game time to think he can come in his 1st season and be an effective passer in the NFL. Defenses will confuse this young man fairly easily if he is thrown in to quick. If that happens then we are looking at a Dwayne Haskins situation.

There is no way this guy goes ahead of Zack Wilson. I saw some people thinking Washington will draft Lance which would be the most shocking selection of the entire NFL draft. If Lance and Wilson are on the board when they pick they are taking Wilson without any debate. It would be asinine not too.
[ Edited by Ark49er on Nov 18, 2020 at 8:29 PM ]
Watched some tape and he's definitely a one read qb. He's not the guy to draft if we want someone who can take over as a rookie and take us to the playoffs
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Lol even though Lance is raw, kid would be an upgrade from Jimmy immediately imo. We have a strong run game and Lance already runs the playaction from under center as good or better than anyone in the draft. His threat of running it if the read is not there and ability/willingness to throw it deep already makes our offense much more dangerous than it ever was/will be with Jimmy running the playaction. Lance would fit this offense like a glove in my opinion

IMO he's similar to Justin Herbert as a QB talent....more athletic but similar traits.
Originally posted by Ark49er:
Who ever draft this guy that team and fan base will have to be very patient in his development. He really needs to sit behind an NFL vet QB for at least one season if not two. He has just missed way to much game time to think he can come in his 1st season and be an effective passer in the NFL. Defenses will confuse this young man fairly easily if he is thrown in to quick. If that happens then we are looking at a Dwayne Haskins situation.

There is no way this guy goes ahead of Zack Wilson. I saw some people thinking Washington will draft Lance which would be the most shocking selection of the entire NFL draft. If Lance and Wilson are on the board when they pick they are taking Wilson without any debate. It would be asinine not too.

I don't think it would be shocking at all...he's 6' 4" and around 230lbs. He's got amazing arm talent. He ran a pro-offense at NDSU.

People said the same thing about Herbert and Allen...NFL defenses will confuse them. They didn't deal with a ton of pressure, made some bonehead throws (Lance not so much) etc. He's not Dwayne Haskins lol.

SO MUCH depends on where a rookie QB goes, the talent around them, and the coaching staff. I would be shocked if Wilson goes ahead of him honestly.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Watched some tape and he's definitely a one read qb. He's not the guy to draft if we want someone who can take over as a rookie and take us to the playoffs

How many college QBs are going through multiple reads? Not many at all...it's a TON of half reads, RPOs, scramble/extend a play rinse and repeat.

Any smart OC/HC will use what he's good at yr 1 and develop him...talent is there no doubt. How smart is he? Can he learn coverages/defenses? Just he nuances of playing QB.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Watched some tape and he's definitely a one read qb. He's not the guy to draft if we want someone who can take over as a rookie and take us to the playoffs

How many college QBs are going through multiple reads? Not many at all...it's a TON of half reads, RPOs, scramble/extend a play rinse and repeat.

Any smart OC/HC will use what he's good at yr 1 and develop him...talent is there no doubt. How smart is he? Can he learn coverages/defenses? Just he nuances of playing QB.

This.

And how'd he get access to his game "tape"??? Lol just teasing
[ Edited by AsianJeff on Nov 19, 2020 at 8:33 AM ]
Zero turnovers last year, 15-0 record last year, no need to make a second read if the first one is open. He has a chip on his shoulder from University of Minnesota and can play in cold weather. No missed games from injuries.

He is training for his future right now instead of racking up stats against a bunch of no name directional schools like Wilson.
Originally posted by pdfortune:
Zero turnovers last year, 15-0 record last year, no need to make a second read if the first one is open. He has a chip on his shoulder from University of Minnesota and can play in cold weather. No missed games from injuries.

He is training for his future right now instead of racking up stats against a bunch of no name directional schools like Wilson.

Lol @ your failed shot at Wilson. So you think throwing against air vs actual teams and defenses better trains a QB for their NFL future?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ark49er:
Who ever draft this guy that team and fan base will have to be very patient in his development. He really needs to sit behind an NFL vet QB for at least one season if not two. He has just missed way to much game time to think he can come in his 1st season and be an effective passer in the NFL. Defenses will confuse this young man fairly easily if he is thrown in to quick. If that happens then we are looking at a Dwayne Haskins situation.

There is no way this guy goes ahead of Zack Wilson. I saw some people thinking Washington will draft Lance which would be the most shocking selection of the entire NFL draft. If Lance and Wilson are on the board when they pick they are taking Wilson without any debate. It would be asinine not too.

I don't think it would be shocking at all...he's 6' 4" and around 230lbs. He's got amazing arm talent. He ran a pro-offense at NDSU.

People said the same thing about Herbert and Allen...NFL defenses will confuse them. They didn't deal with a ton of pressure, made some bonehead throws (Lance not so much) etc. He's not Dwayne Haskins lol.

SO MUCH depends on where a rookie QB goes, the talent around them, and the coaching staff. I would be shocked if Wilson goes ahead of him honestly.


You're right about QBs getting put in the right situation where coaching and talent is in place, very important.

If Washington remains the third team up that will draft a QB, I just can't see them going with Lance over Wilson, even though it's possible that Lance has a higher ceiling than Wilson. I just think the BYU QB is further along and could be ready to play in a game much quicker. if Washington had not just drafted Haskins, then I could see them taking Lance.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
How many college QBs are going through multiple reads?






Originally posted by NYniner85:
How many college QBs are going through multiple reads?

Originally posted by Ark49er:

You're right about QBs getting put in the right situation where coaching and talent is in place, very important.

If Washington remains the third team up that will draft a QB, I just can't see them going with Lance over Wilson, even though it's possible that Lance has a higher ceiling than Wilson. I just think the BYU QB is further along and could be ready to play in a game much quicker. if Washington had not just drafted Haskins, then I could see them taking Lance.

I mean just based off what Rivera has had at QB...Lance fits the bill IMO. I'm a fan of Lance as well. I wouldn't be upset one bit if he's the pick here.

DC is the perfect spot to draft a QB that might need to learn for a yr, no one is calling out for them to win a Super Bowl in 2021. Ron just got hired.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
How many college QBs are going through multiple reads?


Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
How many college QBs are going through multiple reads?





You mean Kirk 2.0

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