Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
I kind of would be. Lance is the player you take a swing at if a player like Fields is gone. People call him Josh Allen 2.0. Josh Allen went 12th in the draft. If we do draft him, I hope to be wrong.

Allen went 7th overall

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The Falcons have all kinds of options at No. 4 but could the Niners pick at No. 3 influence their move? From NFL Now @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/1f0z7rnyQh

— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) April 19, 2021

There it is, thanks NY. I posted that he said this a couple pages ago 🤙🏾

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bloodless:
There is no question Lance has a killer arm. From a physical standpoint, he has it all. SO I can see what some people love about him. If you were going to build a Qb in a lab from a physical standpoint, Lance might be as close as you get. Pro days do not tell me anything different, that I didn't already know about him though. The problem is we just didn't get enough of him in college to ever know if he has the other stuff needed to succeed at the next level. No matter what they throw at him in shorts they cannot simulate what we needed to see more of in real game situations. Too many unknowns and too big of a risk for me to spend 3 first-round pick on. Lance is either going to be Amazing or a complete and utter bust. There is going to be no middle ground with him. And I cannot say with any confidence which of the two it is going to be.

Disagree...it's all about understanding his football IQ and from everything we've heard it's stupid good for how young he is.

I don't think he needs another yr of kicking the s**t out of the FCS to show if he's got it. All we talk about is how great Kyle is with getting guys open and making the offense easy for a QB....under structure. There is no reason as to why Lance can run this offense, we see him running the same offense already. The difference is when s**t isn't under structure. Plays break down... Lance/Wilson/Fields can create. that's the difference and I think Kyle is tired of watching his QBs being unable to do that.

The Football IQ you are referring to can only get you so far sometimes. It helps you pre-diagnose defenses. Have an understanding of your own offense and what you should be doing. But once the play is snaped you have to be able to process info fast. Have the vision to see what is happening on the field and so on. This guy barely ever threw the ball in college. Against very slow defenders. Sure we know we can call a play with Lance and say throw it here or if it is not open run. That is all we know for sure that he would be able to do at a high level in the NFL at this point. I am not saying he is not amazing at going through reads processing info fast. Just that the fact is there is no way to know because the sample size just isn't there. I personally don't feel comfortable enough that he won't bust out to take him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't think his accuracy is that bad either. I also don't expect a 19 yr old to be at his peak in regards to QB play...including accuracy. He's still a pup.

I'm still team Fields but I wouldn't be shocked or disappointed if it's Lance.

His inaccuracy is said to be in his mechanics, a good coach should be able to fix those issues. Most athletes nowadays seem to get trainers while in middle school. I wonder why Lance has taken this long to get with a QB coach?

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by asvidzinski:
I´m on Field´s train, but if we choose Lance I won´t be mad at all

I kind of would be. Lance is the player you take a swing at if a player like Fields is gone. People call him Josh Allen 2.0. Josh Allen went 12th in the draft. If we do draft him, I hope to be wrong.

He went 7th.

I bet the Jets wish they would have taken him at #3.

You guys are as loyal as hugh hefner

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The Falcons have all kinds of options at No. 4 but could the Niners pick at No. 3 influence their move? From NFL Now @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/1f0z7rnyQh

— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) April 19, 2021

There it is, thanks NY. I posted that he said this a couple pages ago 🤙🏾

All the signs its not gonna be mac.... but yet people still persists its gonna be mac... I don't get it.

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
I could give two cents that everyone is praising him. Come on you see that every fkn year, and it's been like that forever. And these pundits are often way off and wrong vs being right.
I could care less about his arm strength and intelligence, who was his competition? Sorry I'm just not that impressed. Every year there's physically gifted athletes, that's doesn't mean they transition to the next level.
Last best/solid D2 QB the NFL has had was McNair. Flacco had a decent few years, Wentz... meh. Fitzmagic? Jimmy G? Romo?

just saying I think facing stiff competition goes a long way. It seems to workout better for other positions vs QB's. I'd think he's got a long ways to go in developing at the Pro level.

IMHO I just don't see him being this stud QB at the next level that all the media keep saying.

Well if you want to limit your team to only FBS players feel free, but I doubt any NFL team would hire you as a GM any time soon.

From a technical standpoint, Wentz has a super bowl ring and so does Flacco, while McNair is considered one of the best to not win a super bowl. Romo and Jimmy G are thought of as at least relatively good NFL players. So basically the worst is Fitz... who has been in the league how long now?

Best to completely avoid the FCS guys though because... level of competition.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
"Sports Info Solutions' proprietary quarterback metric that builds on the traditional Passer Rating formula by isolating competitive throws (e.g., by excluding throwaways and only including accurate completions) and eliminating the effects of results outside his control (e.g., dropped passes, dropped interceptions).

Lance: 120.1

Fields: 104. 3.

Wilson: 69.9"

it's a real company who made this stat. Doesn't prove he's more accurate than Fields but Lance is certainly not inaccurate.

I'm fine with either...I will say I've seen way more tight window throws from Fields compared to Lance, I'm not saying Lance can't do it though.

Accuracy isn't an issue for any of these top 5 guys. Some have the arm talent that will elevate them at he next level.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
"Sports Info Solutions' proprietary quarterback metric that builds on the traditional Passer Rating formula by isolating competitive throws (e.g., by excluding throwaways and only including accurate completions) and eliminating the effects of results outside his control (e.g., dropped passes, dropped interceptions).

Lance: 120.1

Fields: 104. 3.

Wilson: 69.9"

it's a real company who made this stat. Doesn't prove he's more accurate than Fields but Lance is certainly not inaccurate.

Have a link to this data anywhere?

The only things that are coming up when I search for this are the Ninersnation article that doesn't include a source and your previous posts about it.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
You guys are as loyal as hugh hefner

Loyal to Niners - that why want the best QB.

Why you loyal to Mac Jones? lol makes no sense.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by asvidzinski:
I´m on Field´s train, but if we choose Lance I won´t be mad at all

Same here. I would be excited about either.

Yessir

I'd be happy with Lance or Fields. I just don't see enough to justify taking Lance over Fields.

Agreed

I'm all in on the pick being Trey Lance. The only thing he's missing is elite accuracy. That can be worked as his tape is from his nineteen year old season. He's light years ahead of Fields in terms of processing and decision making. He's light years ahead of Mac in terms of scrambling ability and raw athleticism. He's the pick, I feel confident.

First post here(I think).

I don't think Lance or Fields will be the pick, unfortunately. I'd take either, preferably Fields, but it's not going to happen.

Some of us want to believe that Shanahan's QB-type preference has evolved to something more than just pure pocket-passing QBs based on things he may have said here and there recently--possibly valuing athleticism and mobility--but one thing is what he says and another thing is what he actually does. The last two QBs the niners signed were Josh Rosen and Nate Sudfeld--two pocket-passers who may have decent size but don't scream anything great about mobility or their athleticism. Look at the last QB he got excited about in a draft and traded up for--C.J. Bethard. Which is why any speculation about the niners being interested in Fields or Lance is just speculation, nothing worth taking serious. Shanahan is set in the type of QBs he prefers and that's not changing any time soon.

Regarding the Lance/Fields pro day visits--maybe there's some internal back and forth between Shanahan and John Lynch/scouts to some degree or MAYBE its a smokescreen(doubt it). I think it's just procedural rather than serious consideration. Whatever the reason may be, in the end, Shanahan will get his guy---McCorkle Jones. I hope I'm wrong (crossing fingers), but if I'm not, I hope McCorkle lights it up with us.