Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Is that it for the clips at the pro day?

Trey Lance showing off the 🚀 at his second pro day (via @NDSUfootball) pic.twitter.com/iG3Apqupch

— KNBR (@KNBR) April 19, 2021

His deep balls are making the WR slow down. I wonder if he isn't used to throwing to WRs with NFL speed or if his accuracy hasn't improved that much from 2019?

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Perhaps you forgot, but before Wentz got hurt, he was having a legitimate MVP type season and was being talked about as a perennial all pro type QB. Hasn't been the same since his injuries.

He was playing hero ball last year and it backfired tremendously for everyone involved. The truth is though, that 2019 was not that bad of a season. His supporting cast was constantly injured and changing and he led them to 4 straight victories to get into the playoffs throwing the ball to practice squad guys. He has his share of blame in how things went in 2020 and the divorce with the Eagles, but I feel there's plenty to go around in that organization. 2020 will be an interesting year for sure but I hope he does well if for no other reason than I have him in a dynasty fantasy football league .

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Yea - accuracy thing is def. talked about a lot bc he doesn't have many weaknesses. As you mentioned - he was 19 and he ONLY started playing QB at age 14. He didn't get any private coaching till this past year when his season was canceled unlike other players in this class who have been getting it for years.

For many - problem is his competition and that's a valid point. At the same time - he was offered to play RB, LB, Safety for some bigger schools but he refused and went to ND St. to play QB. Shows me that he has complete conviction and belief in himself and guess what - he was 120% correct. He is gonna be a high pick in NFL draft (hopefully no. 3) and if that happens - I have no doubt in my mind that he will be in conversation for best QB in the league in 3-4 years with Shanahan.

The accuracy thing is talked about because its so crucial to the position in the NFL. Historically speaking, if you have shaky accuracy in college, the odds of it getting substantially better in the NFL are pretty slim. People are just on this "anyone can improve accuracy" kick because Josh Allen appears to be an exception to the rule. I said months ago that eventually one of these QB's is going to turn out to be a massive bust and then the NFL will find a new fad to follow. I don't know if Lance is that guy but its clear that he's nowhere near the level of a precision passer that Fields, Wilson and Jones are. Maybe that changes in the future but if you're taking him that early, you're better a whole lot on him joining Allen in fighting against the odds.

I don't really disagree with you but every case is different. As we are all aware - Lance last played games when he was 19. Secondly - he started playing QB in HS. Those two things have to be accounted for. I'd say - his accuracy considering those two things is actually pretty good. I think you can def. improve accuracy at his age and how new to the game he is. He is not throwing the same way for 10-12 years.

The 49ers now have a week an half to take all the feedback and data, perhaps look at more film, to make a final decision. We will find out if the one guy they traded up for (if there was one) is the same guy they draft or they that were swayed since the trade.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
The 49ers now have a week an half to take all the feedback and data, perhaps look at more film, to make a final decision. We will find out if the one guy they traded up for (if there was one) is the same guy they draft or they that were swayed since the trade.

They should throw all of that stupid data away and just go by the fan polls.

Originally posted by roasthawg:
I'm all in on the pick being Trey Lance. The only thing he's missing is elite accuracy. That can be worked as his tape is from his nineteen year old season. He's light years ahead of Fields in terms of processing and decision making. He's light years ahead of Mac in terms of scrambling ability and raw athleticism. He's the pick, I feel confident.

Accuracy is actually one trait that QB's almost never improve significantly in the jump from college to the pros. Josh Allen is the only QB prospect that has drastically improved his accuracy after college.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Cosell loves him some Lance to SF

I've listened a couple of times when Cosell has done his analysis and I can't really say who he thinks the Niners should pick. He says Jones is the most ready, he likes Fields upside but in the end he thinks Lance could eventually be the best. So basically he's where all the rest of us are. Close your eyes a throw the dart. I wonder if Kyle and John are having problems agreeing on who they like or if they have even decided yet. I guess it depends on the Jets too. Everyone seems to think they're picking Wilson but Saleh and his GM might throw a curve in there. Maybe they go for Lance instead, thinking that they aren't ready to win now anyway so let Lance take a couple of years learning while they build the rest of the team.

My penis tingles a little thinking of Trey becoming a Niner in 10 days.

Originally posted by IceMan1763:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Perhaps you forgot, but before Wentz got hurt, he was having a legitimate MVP type season and was being talked about as a perennial all pro type QB. Hasn't been the same since his injuries.

He was playing hero ball last year and it backfired tremendously for everyone involved. The truth is though, that 2019 was not that bad of a season. His supporting cast was constantly injured and changing and he led them to 4 straight victories to get into the playoffs throwing the ball to practice squad guys. He has his share of blame in how things went in 2020 and the divorce with the Eagles, but I feel there's plenty to go around in that organization. 2020 will be an interesting year for sure but I hope he does well if for no other reason than I have him in a dynasty fantasy football league .

I was referring more so to year 2017, his second year in the league, not 2019.

trey Lance pro day on NfL channel now. darn..this is the first pro day. thought it was today!

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by roasthawg:
I'm all in on the pick being Trey Lance. The only thing he's missing is elite accuracy. That can be worked as his tape is from his nineteen year old season. He's light years ahead of Fields in terms of processing and decision making. He's light years ahead of Mac in terms of scrambling ability and raw athleticism. He's the pick, I feel confident.

Accuracy is actually one trait that QB's almost never improve significantly in the jump from college to the pros. Josh Allen is the only QB prospect that has drastically improved his accuracy after college.

So a small school guy playing without NFL quality receivers, running backs, and tight ends improved his accuracy when throwing to actual NFL quality players?

Sign me up for Lance then.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
I kind of would be. Lance is the player you take a swing at if a player like Fields is gone. People call him Josh Allen 2.0. Josh Allen went 12th in the draft. If we do draft him, I hope to be wrong.

Allen went 7th overall

Yeah your right, they traded up from 12

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by roasthawg:
I'm all in on the pick being Trey Lance. The only thing he's missing is elite accuracy. That can be worked as his tape is from his nineteen year old season. He's light years ahead of Fields in terms of processing and decision making. He's light years ahead of Mac in terms of scrambling ability and raw athleticism. He's the pick, I feel confident.

Accuracy is actually one trait that QB's almost never improve significantly in the jump from college to the pros. Josh Allen is the only QB prospect that has drastically improved his accuracy after college.

So a small school guy playing without NFL quality receivers, running backs, and tight ends improved his accuracy when throwing to actual NFL quality players?

Sign me up for Lance then.

Its more about having the natural hand/eye coordination to place the ball exactly where it needs to be, or not so much. Overall, history has shown that if you're not that accurate in college, you don't really improve upon that part of your game in the pros. Fields has outstanding deep ball accuracy, which seems like an element that Kyle would wish he can mix in. He has never really opened up the offense in that way since he got here.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by roasthawg:
I'm all in on the pick being Trey Lance. The only thing he's missing is elite accuracy. That can be worked as his tape is from his nineteen year old season. He's light years ahead of Fields in terms of processing and decision making. He's light years ahead of Mac in terms of scrambling ability and raw athleticism. He's the pick, I feel confident.

Accuracy is actually one trait that QB's almost never improve significantly in the jump from college to the pros. Josh Allen is the only QB prospect that has drastically improved his accuracy after college.

Drew Brees and Stafford significantly improved their accuracy from 2nd year in college to 4th year in college and then took another leap in nfl. Neither were super accurate to begin with.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Cosell loves him some Lance to SF

I hold his football assessments higher than literally anyone else.