Trey Lance QB NDSU

https://youtu.be/X0VMVNf5tig

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Did he hit anyone in stride from what we saw?

Hard to tell with some of the potato slow-mo videos that NDSU put out. On at least a couple the receiver was basically standing there waiting for the pass to get to him although it seemed more of a way to demonstrate his arm strength.

The fact Scangarello was hands on with both Fields and Lance and they ran Kyle's offense concepts makes me hard not to believe it's not 1 of those guys in 10 days. The media is stuck that the Jones' type qb is all Kyle wants since he won games with Ryan and Cousins that to them
its a guarantee it's Mac. When this regime has never leaked anything and I find it hard to believe they would leak the most important draft in their tenure and one in the franchises history

Originally posted by genus49:
Oh weird no mention of his WRs having to wait for his passes? Shocking.

Even though it did happen. What I noticed was Justin fields is clearly a better athlete. More accurate and can throw better on the move. When tray Lance attempted to run to the left and throw the Off platform throw that Zach Wilson and Justin fields dead. It only went about 55 yards in the receiver had to slow down to catch it. Fields through at 65 And cut the receiver in stride

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
The fact Scangarello was hands on with both Fields and Lance and they ran Kyle's offense concepts makes me hard not to believe it's not 1 of those guys in 10 days. The media is stuck that the Jones' type qb is all Kyle wants since he won games with Ryan and Cousins that to them
its a guarantee it's Mac. When this regime has never leaked anything and I find it hard to believe they would leak the most important draft in their tenure and one in the franchises history

You're right and they're not going to. If they were sitting at number two they might. But I have a feeling that if Shanahan says what quarterback he wants or it gets late jets might take that quarterback

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
The fact Scangarello was hands on with both Fields and Lance and they ran Kyle's offense concepts makes me hard not to believe it's not 1 of those guys in 10 days. The media is stuck that the Jones' type qb is all Kyle wants since he won games with Ryan and Cousins that to them
its a guarantee it's Mac. When this regime has never leaked anything and I find it hard to believe they would leak the most important draft in their tenure and one in the franchises history

You're right and they're not going to. If they were sitting at number two they might. But I have a feeling that if Shanahan says what quarterback he wants or it gets late jets might take that quarterback

I think Jets already turned their card in for Wilson and that's cool because I really prefer Fields and think he's the better qb at the end of the day and will have the better career. The 1st 2 picks are pretty much especially when the draft nears is already set.

Help me out here guys please explain it to me. Justin fields more accurate has a better arm is clearly a better athlete And he's faster. Neither one can be called a better decision maker. They're both supposedly really smart. So why would tray Lance be the better fit or the better pic?

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
The fact Scangarello was hands on with both Fields and Lance and they ran Kyle's offense concepts makes me hard not to believe it's not 1 of those guys in 10 days. The media is stuck that the Jones' type qb is all Kyle wants since he won games with Ryan and Cousins that to them
its a guarantee it's Mac. When this regime has never leaked anything and I find it hard to believe they would leak the most important draft in their tenure and one in the franchises history

Them keeping Jimmy should be considered the biggest evidence out there that they are not drafting Jones. I hope that's the case.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Did he hit anyone in stride from what we saw?

Hard to tell with some of the potato slow-mo videos that NDSU put out. On at least a couple the receiver was basically standing there waiting for the pass to get to him although it seemed more of a way to demonstrate his arm strength.

Yeah that zoom in on the ball stuff was like a
Bad Madden "feature".

Originally posted by fan49:
Help me out here guys please explain it to me. Justin fields more accurate has a better arm is clearly a better athlete And he's faster. Neither one can be called a better decision maker. They're both supposedly really smart. So why would tray Lance be the better fit or the better pic?

Lance has the better arm, Lance is the better runner, and Lance also is a much better processor/decision maker. Add to that the fact that Lance has experience under center and in a huddle and these guys are nothing alike save they both run 4.5's as a qb.

Fields is more accurate on the intermediate stuff, that's his one and only advantage over Trey.

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by fan49:
Help me out here guys please explain it to me. Justin fields more accurate has a better arm is clearly a better athlete And he's faster. Neither one can be called a better decision maker. They're both supposedly really smart. So why would tray Lance be the better fit or the better pic?

Lance has the better arm, Lance is the better runner, and Lance also is a much better processor/decision maker. Add to that the fact that Lance has experience under center and in a huddle and these guys are nothing alike save they both run 4.5's as a qb.

Fields is more accurate on the intermediate stuff, that's his one and only advantage over Trey.

Good summary, roast - I totally agree.

Originally posted by fan49:
Help me out here guys please explain it to me. Justin fields more accurate has a better arm is clearly a better athlete And he's faster. Neither one can be called a better decision maker. They're both supposedly really smart. So why would tray Lance be the better fit or the better pic?

more accurate - not by enough to matter when examining advanced passing metrics (on target%, etc.)
better arm - debateable
faster - straight line maybe but Trey has 4.5 speed and is more elusive
decision maker - some people think that's a weakness for Fields, but it's rarely said about Lance
smart - for football smarts Trey's experience is more relevant to the NFL is what some would say

But to put it more simply... your opinion might not match everyone else's.

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Did he hit anyone in stride from what we saw?

Not many from what I saw. Not a good sign IMO.

Give me fields

He most certainly did

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by fan49:
Help me out here guys please explain it to me. Justin fields more accurate has a better arm is clearly a better athlete And he's faster. Neither one can be called a better decision maker. They're both supposedly really smart. So why would tray Lance be the better fit or the better pic?

Lance has the better arm, Lance is the better runner, and Lance also is a much better processor/decision maker. Add to that the fact that Lance has experience under center and in a huddle and these guys are nothing alike save they both run 4.5's as a qb.

Fields is more accurate on the intermediate stuff, that's his one and only advantage over Trey.

Did you just say that's the only advantage LOL. It's clear that field is a better athlete. It's very clear. It's clear that feels better it off platforms rows. If Lance has a better arm then why couldn't he throws off platform throw as far and as accurate as fields? And I don't know if tray Lance runs a four or five or not but I do know that Fields runs a 4.3 4.4. And I don't see how Lance is a better runner I'm sorry I just don't yeah he can truck people he could probably take his better. But he is not as agile and he's not as light on his feet. I hope we can continue this debate

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Did he hit anyone in stride from what we saw?

Not many from what I saw. Not a good sign IMO.

Give me fields

He most certainly did

Oh he had some in stride. The biggest thing for me was that off platform throw fading to the left. He definitely didn't hit him in stride and was at least 10 yard shorter than fields and Zack Wilson