Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by IceMan1763:

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
I am not familiar with Easton Stick but I just looked up his stats and they are actually pretty darn close to Trey Lance. Stats only tell a little bit but I was a little surprised by this. I expected more a gap.

Trey lance 2019
2786 passing yards
28 tds
0 int
66.9%
rushing 1100 yards
14 TDs

Easton Stick 2018
2752 passing yards
28 tds
7 ints
62.3%
rushing 677
17 tds

The gap shows up on tape in their arm strength. Stick's arm on film compared to Lance is like Mac's arm on film compared to Lance.

Actually I take it back. I'm insulting Stick's arm strength.

In all seriousness though.. as great an FCS college player as Stick was there is a reason he went in the 5th round.

1. It's funny how people use Haskins college success to downgrade Fields but don't use Stick to downgrade Lance. You can see a noticeable difference in Fields and Haskins.

2. It's also funny how Fields gets downgraded for not beating out Fromm as a true freshman, but Lance doesn't get downgraded for not beating out stick.

3. You would expect someone as talented as Lance to "Stick" out a little more and look more like a man amongst boys especially with his arm.

Easton Stick a boss tho

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:
Everybody should not forget, Kyle and John also put a lot of stock on how a player's character would mesh with the current team. They need a new QB which is not only way over achiever but a guy that would be able to show tremendous leadership qualities before even saying anything at all to start with. Hmmm, who's the funny/happy-go-lucky ones on this bunch? I bet the 49ers would prefer maturity than age on that aspect of evaluation.

I see what you're saying, but I think as long as you love football you're cool with us. There are a lot of different personality types and they mesh well together.

I could see Mac fitting in the Kittle, Juice, Trent Taylor group.

Fields with guys like Warner, Bosa, Trent Williams.

And I think Lance would sort of dip in and out of all of them. All these QB's seem to be all ball, I really don't think we can go wrong, maybe just more right with the perfect selection.

I want nothing to do with Jones as I've stated for months but all 3 I think would be excellent leaders where the players would gravitate to. You've already seen some guys on Twitter like Fields. By the way Trent Taylor is so gone

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
1. It's funny how people use Haskins college success to downgrade Fields but don't use Stick to downgrade Lance. You can see a noticeable difference in Fields and Haskins.

2. It's also funny how Fields gets downgraded for not beating out Fromm as a true freshman, but Lance doesn't get downgraded for not beating out stick.

3. You would expect someone as talented as Lance to "Stick" out a little more and look more like a man amongst boys especially with his arm.

1) And the fact that you ignore that Wentz has had success in the NFL yet also sat behind Brock Jensen means your knowledge is limited. Also it's funny you can see the difference athletically between Haskins and Fields yet don't see a difference between Stick and Lance. Actually I don't find that funny, I find it hilarious.

2) Um yeah, Jensen < Wentz but same situation and Stick < Lance but same situation. Keep in mind Stick had just won the national championship the year before. Oh yeah, Jensen had won the two previous years. Also, only some people say Fields not beating out Fromm means anything. This whole process is an echo chamber of dumb takes... try not to take them too personally as I think those takes are a vocal minority.

3) You aren't watching the player if you don't see the arm talent, you're looking at the helmet and discounting him immediately.

With all the news surrounding Lance, Fields, and Jones...they should hold a freaking reality show with a rose ceremony at the end

Someone has got to photoshop something like that

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
With all the news surrounding Lance, Fields, and Jones...they should hold a freaking reality show with a rose ceremony at the end

Someone has got to photoshop something like that

I got something even better I'm working on.

I don't want to post it yet but I don't want to post it too close to the draft.

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:
Everybody should not forget, Kyle and John also put a lot of stock on how a player's character would mesh with the current team. They need a new QB which is not only way over achiever but a guy that would be able to show tremendous leadership qualities before even saying anything at all to start with. Hmmm, who's the funny/happy-go-lucky ones on this bunch? I bet the 49ers would prefer maturity than age on that aspect of evaluation.

Very good post

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
1. It's funny how people use Haskins college success to downgrade Fields but don't use Stick to downgrade Lance. You can see a noticeable difference in Fields and Haskins.

2. It's also funny how Fields gets downgraded for not beating out Fromm as a true freshman, but Lance doesn't get downgraded for not beating out stick.

3. You would expect someone as talented as Lance to "Stick" out a little more and look more like a man amongst boys especially with his arm.

Fields' improvement as a QB coming out of college was incremental, while Lance's improvement in much lesser amount of time was exponential!

What are you basing that on? What data points?

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
If this playing under center and calling protections thing was so important to Shanahan, why wouldn't we just trade for Wentz who had 3 years in that system instead of 1, and NFL success. He would have been much cheaper.

He was damaged goods imho, based on his attitude which started after the benching.

So there are things that are more important then? Good to know!

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:
Everybody should not forget, Kyle and John also put a lot of stock on how a player's character would mesh with the current team. They need a new QB which is not only way over achiever but a guy that would be able to show tremendous leadership qualities before even saying anything at all to start with. Hmmm, who's the funny/happy-go-lucky ones on this bunch? I bet the 49ers would prefer maturity than age on that aspect of evaluation.

Very good post

Agree.

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:
Everybody should not forget, Kyle and John also put a lot of stock on how a player's character would mesh with the current team. They need a new QB which is not only way over achiever but a guy that would be able to show tremendous leadership qualities before even saying anything at all to start with. Hmmm, who's the funny/happy-go-lucky ones on this bunch? I bet the 49ers would prefer maturity than age on that aspect of evaluation.

we drafted McGlinchey and kept Staley around. They do not mind goofy characters. As long as they are not getting DUIs. Which in Mac's case, I guess they're just ignoring it.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by 49ersam-II:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Warning it's a Grant Cohn video. And he says "why are Justin Fields 600 throws more valuable than Lances 300?" He didn't answer the question cause I think he heard himself talk and realized he's a moron.

He said the number of quality throws based on Lance's experience and repetitions playing under center and/or having full control /decision making as far as protections and overall decision on what to do with the ball on any given play was much higher than Fields. Lance at this point in time is more pro ready based on experience, regardless of throws/snaps.

If this playing under center and calling protections thing was so important to Shanahan, why wouldn't we just trade for Wentz who had 3 years in that system instead of 1, and NFL success. He would have been much cheaper.

Wentz is making $32 million a season. I think this deal was reduce the cost of a QB on the salary cap in the near future while guys like Bosa and Warner start looking for $$.

Not if they were considered Stafford and Watson.

Originally posted by IceMan1763:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
1. It's funny how people use Haskins college success to downgrade Fields but don't use Stick to downgrade Lance. You can see a noticeable difference in Fields and Haskins.

2. It's also funny how Fields gets downgraded for not beating out Fromm as a true freshman, but Lance doesn't get downgraded for not beating out stick.

3. You would expect someone as talented as Lance to "Stick" out a little more and look more like a man amongst boys especially with his arm.

1) And the fact that you ignore that Wentz has had success in the NFL yet also sat behind Brock Jensen means your knowledge is limited. Also it's funny you can see the difference athletically between Haskins and Fields yet don't see a difference between Stick and Lance. Actually I don't find that funny, I find it hilarious.

2) Um yeah, Jensen < Wentz but same situation and Stick < Lance but same situation. Keep in mind Stick had just won the national championship the year before. Oh yeah, Jensen had won the two previous years. Also, only some people say Fields not beating out Fromm means anything. This whole process is an echo chamber of dumb takes... try not to take them too personally as I think those takes are a vocal minority.

3) You aren't watching the player if you don't see the arm talent, you're looking at the helmet and discounting him immediately.

1. I don't know why you are bringing up Wentz, he was gone before Lance got there.

2. I was merely pointing out the fact that those most of fields "shortcomings" can be applied to the other QBs.

3. Looking at the helmet is yet another thing that only seems to affect Fields draft status.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
What are you basing that on? What data points?

Based on time and distance traveled.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
we drafted McGlinchey and kept Staley around. They do not mind goofy characters. As long as they are not getting DUIs. Which in Mac's case, I guess they're just ignoring it.

rest assured Mac Jones' not the pick.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
we drafted McGlinchey and kept Staley around. They do not mind goofy characters. As long as they are not getting DUIs. Which in Mac's case, I guess they're just ignoring it.

It was a transcendent dui though lol