Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
you'd think it wouldn't be this difficult
They meant skin color, not ability. 
I think it's the other way around. Fans want the skin color. Shanahan, on the other hand, wants the guy that's gonna make Shanahan look like a superstar (as opposed to an actual superstar player).
Yea? I think most fans here would be happy with Fields or Lawrence or Wilson or even Lance. Shanahan is the one that only ever seems to choose QBs of a certain skintone.
Shanahan has literally only drafted one QB, and fought for another (Cousins). He traded for Jimmy because the Patriots offered.
He also signed Josh Johnson.
This take is lazy. It's more than lazy. It's f**king stupid.
Oh wow, he signed Josh Johnson. The fourth QB on the depth chart. That refutes any possibility of bias. 
C'mon man, before you have a stroke over the slightest possibility of racial bias taking a role, maybe consider you're the one that first claimed that the fans want a QB based purely on race and that Shanahan doesn't care. Meanwhile, Shanahan didn't want RG3, didn't want Kaepernick, didn't want Watson, didn't want Mahomes, didn't want Fields, doesn't want Lance. Any one of those individually could easily be justified or explained, but the trend is there and cannot be refuted by merely pointing at Josh Johnson, a guy that will never play.
Can we get a facepalm emoji?
(1) He didn't want Kap. And he didn't want Gabbert either. Both mobile QBs who struggled with on time pocket passing.
(2) RGIII SUCKS! He was right then and he was right now. As soon as teams started scheming for the zone read he disappeared into nothing. Kind of like what happened with Kap.
(3) The 49ers were interested in Watson actually. But to them Cousins was a done deal.
(4) Most of the people HERE didn't want Mahomes either.
(5) Fields runs a college version of the run and shoot. It is clear why Shanahan wouldn't want him.
(6) The team may well pick Lance. But he has accuracy problems. That's a fact.
Lastly, HOW MANY WHITE QBS DID THEY PASS TO TAKE BEATHARD? They picked Beathard because Shanahan has a type. The type is not "white QB." The type is "pocket QB who doesn't bail on the play with his legs.
Your. Take. Is. STUPID.
Ok, dude. You accused 49er fans of wanting the next QB based on race and then act silly when shown how that made no sense. I didn't even say Shanahan was racist, but pointed out how if anything, his long history of preferring a certain type of QB reflects more of a bias than whatever nonsense you were claiming. Your points to refute that make zero sense, which you probably know (a racial bias means they have to take the first white QB possible? What 
). But whatever, I've clearly touched a nerve, so I'll drop it.
Uh, no, that's not what happened. Someone ELSE said Shanahan was picking based on race (actually several people), and I said no, the only people worried about the race of these QBs are the ones claiming Shanahan is picking based on race.
Drop it if you want. I won't, because I'm interested in observable reality. Shanahan has PASSED on QBs who default to legs before exhausting the play, and he has SAID that he doesn't trust guys who default to their legs instead of exhausting the play, because they've done that all their lives, which likely inhibited their growth in, for example, learning how to exhaust a play.
And this goes back before Kyle Shanahan. This goes back clear to Steve Young, who I remember saying in an interview a couple decades ago that MIKE Shanahan helped him get much better at exhausting all options in the play before defaulting to his legs. Hell, Bill Walsh was also pushing to mold him that way.
Oh yeah, same thing seems to have happened with John Elway.
This pattern of wanting QBs to sit in the pocket and exhaust the play goes back
decades in this coaching tree. DECADES. There are DECADES worth of evidence about what type of QB the people who run this scheme and variations of it prefer. DECADES. And I don't just mean the roster, since that will be your retort (derp they were almost all white). Not just the roster. The things said. The evidence of players who were coached to drastically change how they play (e.g., Steve Young).
The type is a QB who exhausts all options in the play before improvising.
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That said, there's evidence Shanahan's finally changing his mind on that. Hopefully the change is complete so he doesn't blow this chance to take Lance.
