Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
This guy is overrated.. He throws deep to wide open receivers. He is not accurate. I haven't seen him go through progressions or read the defense. This video is all need to see. Yeah he is athletic, but that is not enough.

I disagree. (can't really say overrated since we don't yet know where he's rated) I see some really good things. Beastly strong, fast, strong arm. Can't coach those things. rough edges, but looks coachable. Also might not have to go on IR every other game like all our very fragile QBs. I'm interested.

To those of ya'll judging the first game by Lance after an offseason impacted by a pandemic. I bring to you... stat lines of games of current franchise QBs.

Josh Allen:

9 of 19 91 yards 1 touchown, no picks (should have been 3) vs Hawaii

9 of 24 64 yards 1 rushing touchdown, 1 pick vs Oregon

Justin Herbert:

18 of 30 174 yards 0 touchdowns, 1 pick vs Oregon State

Russell Wilson:

12 of 23 74 yards 0 touchdowns, no picks vs South Carolina

Originally posted by Waterbear:

To those of ya'll judging the first game by Lance after an offseason impacted by a pandemic. I bring to you... stat lines of games of current franchise QBs.

Josh Allen:

9 of 19 91 yards 1 touchown, no picks (should have been 3) vs Hawaii

9 of 24 64 yards 1 rushing touchdown, 1 pick vs Oregon

Justin Herbert:

18 of 30 174 yards 0 touchdowns, 1 pick vs Oregon State

Russell Wilson:

12 of 23 74 yards 0 touchdowns, no picks vs South Carolina

But but but they can't have a poor game! You know this.

I want padded stats from an air raid offense!

Originally posted by Waterbear:
To those of ya'll judging the first game by Lance after an offseason impacted by a pandemic. I bring to you... stat lines of games of current franchise QBs.

Josh Allen:

9 of 19 91 yards 1 touchown, no picks (should have been 3) vs Hawaii

9 of 24 64 yards 1 rushing touchdown, 1 pick vs Oregon

Justin Herbert:

18 of 30 174 yards 0 touchdowns, 1 pick vs Oregon State

Russell Wilson:

12 of 23 74 yards 0 touchdowns, no picks vs South Carolina

Every single one of those guys was far more experienced as a passer. Not even close. I went and I looked, in the past 20 years, there's only been a handful of QB's drafted that had fewer than 500 college passing attempts. The only guy to have fewer college passing attempts than Lance was Matt Cassel.

The guys closest to him that were actual starters?

Mark Sanchez, Cam Newton and Matt Flynn. Everyone else had over 500 passing attempts.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Every single one of those guys was far more experienced as a passer. Not even close. I went and I looked, in the past 20 years, there's only been a handful of QB's drafted that had fewer than 500 college passing attempts. The only guy to have fewer college passing attempts than Lance was Matt Cassel.

The guys closest to him that were actual starters?

Mark Sanchez, Cam Newton and Matt Flynn. Everyone else had over 500 passing attempts.

I agree about his lack of reps give him a major disadvantage. I guess the saving grace would be, assuming Garoppolo isn't on the team/SF can use that extra cash to resign guys and such is....at least if Lance was thrust into the starting position, he'd be surrounded by far more talent than most 1st round QB's. Shanahan can hide him about as good as anyone, and the guys can pick him up. He'd be learning the playbook on the job.

The lack of reps is a real issue. On one hand you can sit him but how do you fix a lack of reps when you're not giving him reps? Practice reps only take you so far.

Boom or bust prospect. Needs to land in a good situation.

The lack of reps is actually pretty terrifying.


I'm glad I'm not drafting

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

To those of ya'll judging the first game by Lance after an offseason impacted by a pandemic. I bring to you... stat lines of games of current franchise QBs.

Josh Allen:

9 of 19 91 yards 1 touchown, no picks (should have been 3) vs Hawaii

9 of 24 64 yards 1 rushing touchdown, 1 pick vs Oregon

Justin Herbert:

18 of 30 174 yards 0 touchdowns, 1 pick vs Oregon State

Russell Wilson:

12 of 23 74 yards 0 touchdowns, no picks vs South Carolina

Every single one of those guys was far more experienced as a passer. Not even close. I went and I looked, in the past 20 years, there's only been a handful of QB's drafted that had fewer than 500 college passing attempts. The only guy to have fewer college passing attempts than Lance was Matt Cassel.

The guys closest to him that were actual starters?

Mark Sanchez, Cam Newton and Matt Flynn. Everyone else had over 500 passing attempts.

That's not the argument they are making. They said this one game is why Lance is not worthy of the pick. Not that he's not experienced.

Originally posted by Heroism:

The lack of reps is actually pretty terrifying.


I'm glad I'm not drafting

It's going to take balls to draft him in the top 10 given his lack of experience.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Heroism:

The lack of reps is actually pretty terrifying.


I'm glad I'm not drafting

It's going to take balls to draft him in the top 10 given his lack of experience.

I don't see it. This guy's projected draft position by fans has been severely overrated imo. This guy might have to sit for a couple of years behind a vet before he is ready. I wouldn't be surprised to see him picked up by Tampa to learn from Brady then be ready to step in. Steelers also make sense.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
That's not the argument they are making. They said this one game is why Lance is not worthy of the pick. Not that he's not experienced.

Its a far more convincing argument when it comes to a guy with 250 pass attempts versus someone like Wilson who had almost 1,500 and a resume that covered four seasons as a college passer.

Talented? Absolutely? Tremendous upside? Definitely. NFL game ready as a rookie? Hell no.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

That's not the argument they are making. They said this one game is why Lance is not worthy of the pick. Not that he's not experienced.

Its a far more convincing argument when it comes to a guy with 250 pass attempts versus someone like Wilson who had almost 1,500 and a resume that covered four seasons as a college passer.

Talented? Absolutely? Tremendous upside? Definitely. NFL game ready as a rookie? Hell no.

Number of pass attempts is a terrible way to judge a QBs experience/readiness.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

That's not the argument they are making. They said this one game is why Lance is not worthy of the pick. Not that he's not experienced.

Its a far more convincing argument when it comes to a guy with 250 pass attempts versus someone like Wilson who had almost 1,500 and a resume that covered four seasons as a college passer.

Talented? Absolutely? Tremendous upside? Definitely. NFL game ready as a rookie? Hell no.

I'm with you on all of that.

I'm just trying to give some context to a single game that people are using to say he sucks.

That shouldn't be the reason people are using to dismiss him as a prospect.

It should be for other reasons like the one you mentioned.

Originally posted by Sunshine:

Number of pass attempts is a terrible way to judge a QBs experience/readiness.

Disagree. Its one thing if a guy has two years of starting experience and someone is arguing that they should have three.


Lance as a rookie would have the fewest college pass attempts of any QB drafted earlier than the 6th round in the past 20 years and likely far longer than that.




To me that is a QB that has zero business starting in the NFL as a rookie. Throwing them out there when they have that precious little experience in actually throwing the football is the express lane to ruining a young QB.


There's no way you can argue that a guy with barely a year as a starter in the FCS is NFL ready Day 1. Every rookie QB has a significant learning curve. Lance's will be far steeper than most.

another OVERRATED QB... not sure why people sees him as another Mahomes type QB..

again, I compared his 1 full year to LOVE's and I can't even say that Lance was better than Love...

I see Pittsburgh drafting him late in the 1st round since Big Ben wants to play for another year.. but I also see the Lions getting back to the last 1st round to grab the guy..

but for I would not draft the guy anywhere from 5 to 20... everything about him at this stage is just the arm and the leg...