One thing I noticed today. Trey did quite a few interviews due to sleep number. The questions were basically the same at each one. This tells me that the agent gave them the questions they were allowed to ask. Everyone asked them about the 49ers in some fashion.
Was this the agent trying to make it happen or is it because he knows something?
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Apr 27, 2021 at 7:05 PM
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Apr 27, 2021 at 7:19 PM
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I want Lance, but I think the Jets are taking him. Joe Douglas was the vice president of player personnel of the Eagles when the last NDSU QB was drafted. If we can't get Lance, I want Pitts.
[ Edited by BigRedNiner on Apr 27, 2021 at 7:21 PM ]
Apr 27, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Aside from those traits, playing in a traditional Pro-style offense from under center, running boot action, turning his back to the defense, and calling protections would be the things Trey Lance has over Mac Jones.
My stance from early on with Lance is that he's the biggest boom-or-bust pick in the draft. If you told me in 4 years he's an elite QB, I can believe it; Conversely, if you told me he's out of the league in 4 years, I can also believe it.
I don't have a dog in the fight but to expand
Isn't it easier to get Jones under center and teach him the basics vs fixing Lances mechanics?
Apr 27, 2021 at 7:39 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:For what Lance has over Jones~
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Lance is bigger, faster, younger, has zero off field issues, has great character, took more snaps under center, can run, calls his protections, breaks tackles, and isn't fat with skinny legs.
Apr 27, 2021 at 7:48 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Aside from those traits, playing in a traditional Pro-style offense from under center, running boot action, turning his back to the defense, and calling protections would be the things Trey Lance has over Mac Jones.
My stance from early on with Lance is that he's the biggest boom-or-bust pick in the draft. If you told me in 4 years he's an elite QB, I can believe it; Conversely, if you told me he's out of the league in 4 years, I can also believe it.
I don't have a dog in the fight but to expand
Isn't it easier to get Jones under center and teach him the basics vs fixing Lances mechanics?
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
Apr 27, 2021 at 7:50 PM
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Aside from those traits, playing in a traditional Pro-style offense from under center, running boot action, turning his back to the defense, and calling protections would be the things Trey Lance has over Mac Jones.
My stance from early on with Lance is that he's the biggest boom-or-bust pick in the draft. If you told me in 4 years he's an elite QB, I can believe it; Conversely, if you told me he's out of the league in 4 years, I can also believe it.
I don't have a dog in the fight but to expand
Isn't it easier to get Jones under center and teach him the basics vs fixing Lances mechanics?
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
There's also no character concerns with Lance or Fields... definitely have some with Jones.
Apr 27, 2021 at 7:51 PM
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Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by jreff22:For what Lance has over Jones~
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Lance is bigger, faster, younger, has zero off field issues, has great character, took more snaps under center, can run, calls his protections, breaks tackles, and isn't fat with skinny legs.
Great work ethic too. He has been working with different coaches and seeking them to working on his weaknesses. He also seems more mature even though he's 2 years younger.
Lance is 2 YEARS YOUNGER!
Apr 27, 2021 at 7:59 PM
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Aside from those traits, playing in a traditional Pro-style offense from under center, running boot action, turning his back to the defense, and calling protections would be the things Trey Lance has over Mac Jones.
My stance from early on with Lance is that he's the biggest boom-or-bust pick in the draft. If you told me in 4 years he's an elite QB, I can believe it; Conversely, if you told me he's out of the league in 4 years, I can also believe it.
I don't have a dog in the fight but to expand
Isn't it easier to get Jones under center and teach him the basics vs fixing Lances mechanics?
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
There's also no character concerns with Lance or Fields... definitely have some with Jones.
I thought we were already past the "winning with class" era of 49er football?
Apr 27, 2021 at 8:01 PM
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Apr 27, 2021 at 8:16 PM
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Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by jreff22:For what Lance has over Jones~
So we potentially gave up a s**t ton for a guy with little tape that needs serious work?
Comparing him to Jones…
Aside from a stronger arm and raw athleticism, what does Lance have over Jones?
Lance is bigger, faster, younger, has zero off field issues, has great character, took more snaps under center, can run, calls his protections, breaks tackles, and isn't fat with skinny legs.
He took more snaps under center but took less snaps overall. Learning protections and play calls won't be reinventing the wheel. So it's his arm strength and physical talent vs decision making and better accuracy? Does anybody think Jones can't learn how to play in a pro system? Bad mechanics worry me a lot.
Apr 27, 2021 at 8:19 PM
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Originally posted by 4ML:
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
Lance just seems like a giant gamble and Shanny hasn't shown the ability to groom QB's. An average player vs an unknown…both seem like a giant risk that we shouldn't blow draft capital on. Did it make sense to stay put and not give away the farm?
Apr 27, 2021 at 8:35 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 4ML:
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
Lance just seems like a giant gamble and Shanny hasn't shown the ability to groom QB's. An average player vs an unknown…both seem like a giant risk that we shouldn't blow draft capital on. Did it make sense to stay put and not give away the farm?
Every draft pick is a gamble. I think Trey's insane work ethic, intelligence, and elite physical traits makes him less of a gamble. I think that's exactly the kind of player you want to draft.
You def don't want to draft a guy at 3 who doesn't have big potential. That's a recipe for disaster imho. And let's not forget - we are drafting with 3rd overall + 2 future 1sts.
[ Edited by 4ML on Apr 27, 2021 at 8:37 PM ]
Apr 27, 2021 at 8:37 PM
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Apr 27, 2021 at 8:44 PM
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 4ML:
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
Lance just seems like a giant gamble and Shanny hasn't shown the ability to groom QB's. An average player vs an unknown…both seem like a giant risk that we shouldn't blow draft capital on. Did it make sense to stay put and not give away the farm?
Every draft pick is a gamble. I think Trey's insane work ethic, intelligence, and elite physical traits makes him less of a gamble. I think that's exactly the kind of player you want to draft.
You def don't want to draft a guy at 3 who doesn't have big potential. That's a recipe for disaster imho. And let's not forget - we are drafting with 3rd overall + 2 future 1sts.
I get it.
The lack of snaps and worrisome mechanics still bothers me. We've seen guys try to rework their motion and they just revert back when bullets started flying. A D2 kid with limited snaps in a Covid year, not getting warm fuzzy feelings lol
Apr 27, 2021 at 8:46 PM
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 4ML:
He has a very average arm and obviously very limited athleticism - which limits his potential. Imo you can find guys like him later in the draft every year. When you're drafting in top 5 - you want to get a guy with HUGE potential. Lance, Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence are those guys. Mac Jones is a safe pick but with that comes limited potential.
Lance just seems like a giant gamble and Shanny hasn't shown the ability to groom QB's. An average player vs an unknown…both seem like a giant risk that we shouldn't blow draft capital on. Did it make sense to stay put and not give away the farm?
Every draft pick is a gamble. I think Trey's insane work ethic, intelligence, and elite physical traits makes him less of a gamble. I think that's exactly the kind of player you want to draft.
You def don't want to draft a guy at 3 who doesn't have big potential. That's a recipe for disaster imho. And let's not forget - we are drafting with 3rd overall + 2 future 1sts.
Bingo, folks thought Ryan Leaf was a sure thing. Yes he's raw but dude does whatever it takes to learn and put in the work to be better. You add the physical traits that's the type of guy you give up multiple 1sts for, you take that challenge to develop him and help him reach the potential.