Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Who says there have been leaks?

This is just all hyped by the media so people get excited about the draft otherwise we're just sitting around waiting.

Originally posted by wolfpack2192:
Trey is an amazing athlete. His accuracy looks suspect big time. He throws high often. Hopefully it can get ironed out but accuracy is hard to fix. What Josh Allen accomplished last season with his accuracy was a damn near marical and not normal.

That is just not a fact. How can accuracy be hard to fix? NBA Centers who have never shot 3pt in their lives - come in the league and after a few years they're shooting 35-40% from 3. Accuracy is not hard to fix. Doesn't mean everyone can fix it - but most good QBs have improved their accuracy with more time.

I have posted stats of several QBs like Drew Brees and Matt Ryan who drastically improved their accuracy. There are several more.

Peyton Manning completed 60% of his passes in his last year in college. He was completing 67% of his passes in his prime.

It is a lot of hard work - but you can def. improve accuracy. It makes no sense if you work hard at it you can't improve it. It's a lot of repetition and having repeatable good mechanics.

Ppl look at busts and come to conclusion that they can't improve accuracy. Those guys can't improve anything. Accuracy is just super easy to point out by looking at statistics.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
What I think keeps getting overlooked is Lance's ability to make a run play look like a pass play and a pass play look like run play. His play fakes are much more convincing than Fields and I think that matters to Kyle. Fields is clearly the more proven accurate thrower at this point but he's older than Lance and his strength in the vertical passing game is not what this current offense is designed for.

That could change and it should if Fields is the pick. I just have this feeling that Lance will be special and Kyle knows it too.

Bump. This is a great point.

Originally posted by IceMan1763:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I watched the first quarter against central arkansas. I've never seen anything more horrible in my life.

1. Bullet pass incomplete
2. Overthrown bomb to a wr who didn't have a defender 50 yards from him
3. Strip sack fumble

Great choice. The only game he was able to play in 2020 and he couldn't practice because he had to quarantine for 10 days since his roommate tested positive for COVID. I watched Field's NorthWestern game to evaluate him and he's a 5th round pick. Dude is terrible threw for 114 yards.

Hmm....Wasn't there a game he played after the Northwestern game?

Also, does Fields get a pass for the Indiana game because of the COVID outbreak or the Alabama game because he didn't practice with his injuries, or are we only handing passes out to the other players?

Originally posted by wolfpack2192:
Well if Shanahan picks Lance and he busts, he'll have an out for himself. He'll tell Jed he wanted Mac. He'll say this was the scouting dept and Lynch's guy not mine. I've yet to have my QB, I wanted Mac Jones but let the GM pick.

100% and I def. think Shanahan will be really putting him out there if he forces 49ers to pick Matt Jones. If Mac Jones doesn't play like an pro-bowl - fans are going to be very upset and FO will tell him you did this. When you throw so many picks at a QB - he better be pro-bowl caliber QB. It will be very stupid of Shanahan to go alone in this. Fans don't want him and he can say - that doesn't matter but he can't say that when FO doesn't want him either. He'd be alone and if it doesn't work out (ie Mac Jones isn't a top 5-7 QB) - he'd be fired.

I don't know why Shanahan will put himself out there like that. It makes no sense - especially when he said he thinks all 5 QBs can be really good.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Or the leaks aren't real. Not a lot of reason to believe these so called "leaks".

There are wide spread reports on the leaks. This didn't just happen now, Lynch's leak happened weeks ago and Peters' more recently.

Mike Lombardi pounded the table long ago that it was between Jones and Lance. He even doubled down on it. To date, the reporting has only gotten stronger. As for Lynch and Peter's strong preferences, they had to get it on the record for obvious reasons. We shall find out soon enough.

Other than that, you can choose what to or not to believe.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Who says there have been leaks?

This is just all hyped by the media so people get excited about the draft otherwise we're just sitting around waiting.

Wide spread reports.

You have no proof it is all hyped up by the media. In fact, the media is still saying it today that both Lynch and Peters prefer Trey Lance. Chris Simms says he heard Peters loves Trey Lance.

There is no point in being argumentative about it. You can choose to or not to believe it. Other than that, we will find out soon enough.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Or the leaks aren't real. Not a lot of reason to believe these so called "leaks".

There are wide spread reports on the leaks. This didn't just happen now, Lynch's leak happened weeks ago and Peters' more recently.

Mike Lombardi pounded the table long ago that it was between Jones and Lance. He even doubled down on it. To date, the reporting has only gotten stronger. As for Lynch and Peter's strong preferences, they had to get it on the record for obvious reasons. We shall find out soon enough.

Other than that, you can choose what to or not to believe.

None of that is a reason to believe the so called leaks are real. If all these experts and insiders know so much about what this team is thinking, why didn't they tell us we were sniffing around a trade up before we did?

They didn't know before but they know now? Not buying it.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

There have been no leaks...thousands of reporters have said there have been no leaks...all they are going on is conjecture and heresay. You all just panic like scared children. Nobody knows a single goddamn thing about what is happening behind those doors.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Or the leaks aren't real. Not a lot of reason to believe these so called "leaks".

There are wide spread reports on the leaks. This didn't just happen now, Lynch's leak happened weeks ago and Peters' more recently.

Mike Lombardi pounded the table long ago that it was between Jones and Lance. He even doubled down on it. To date, the reporting has only gotten stronger. As for Lynch and Peter's strong preferences, they had to get it on the record for obvious reasons. We shall find out soon enough.

Other than that, you can choose what to or not to believe.

None of that is a reason to believe the so called leaks are real. If all these experts and insiders know so much about what this team is thinking, why didn't they tell us we were sniffing around a trade up before we did?

They didn't know before but they know now? Not buying it.

Did I say the media knew about the trading up? No, I didn't.

But, circumstances have changed since as Kyle Shanahan and the front office have ended up on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Mac Jones. And if Shanahan really has the ultimate say, then it makes absolute perfect sense that either Lynch or Peters would leak it. If I were them I would leak it myself. Why would they do so? Simple, would you want your own reputation and career to be tainted by such a lame move in taking Mac Jones?!

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Or the leaks aren't real. Not a lot of reason to believe these so called "leaks".

There are wide spread reports on the leaks. This didn't just happen now, Lynch's leak happened weeks ago and Peters' more recently.

Mike Lombardi pounded the table long ago that it was between Jones and Lance. He even doubled down on it. To date, the reporting has only gotten stronger. As for Lynch and Peter's strong preferences, they had to get it on the record for obvious reasons. We shall find out soon enough.

Other than that, you can choose what to or not to believe.

None of that is a reason to believe the so called leaks are real. If all these experts and insiders know so much about what this team is thinking, why didn't they tell us we were sniffing around a trade up before we did?

They didn't know before but they know now? Not buying it.

Did I say the media knew about the trading up? No, I didn't.

But, circumstances have changed since as Kyle Shanahan and the front office have ended up on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Mac Jones. And if Shanahan really has the ultimate say, then it makes absolute perfect sense that either Lynch or Peters would leak it. If I were them I would leak it myself. Why would they do so? Simple, would you want your own reputation and career to be tainted by such a lame move in taking Mac Jones?!

Boy you really buy into fiction hard eh?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"So, I evaluate quarterbacks in terms of trying to find people who can have a chance to be one of those elite-type guys and there's lots of different ways to do it" kinda goes against the weird 'Kyle doesn't want a star QB' narrative.

— Steven Ruiz (@theStevenRuiz) April 28, 2021

Another from that same article, but the quote is from 2017: pic.twitter.com/TpDsLTg5OI

— Steven Ruiz (@theStevenRuiz) April 28, 2021

"It's effortless. You don't think about it" pic.twitter.com/zYWyOcajYH

— Steven Ruiz (@theStevenRuiz) April 28, 2021

There was also a 17 year old that Kyle knew a few years ago that was throwing it pretty effortlessly!

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Hmm....Wasn't there a game he played after the Northwestern game?

Also, does Fields get a pass for the Indiana game because of the COVID outbreak or the Alabama game because he didn't practice with his injuries, or are we only handing passes out to the other players?

Well I think it stands to reason that if I believe we shouldn't look too hard at the CA game for Lance that Fields can be forgiven a couple bad games in 2020. I mean I literally have Lance ranked 2A and Fields ranked 2B (I feel like I'm allowed a preference) so it's not that I dislike Fields. I don't dislike Jones either but the trade to #3 makes no sense to me if he's the target. Ceiling is too low for that much investment IMO.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

There have been no leaks...thousands of reporters have said there have been no leaks...all they are going on is conjecture and heresay. You all just panic like scared children. Nobody knows a single goddamn thing about what is happening behind those doors.

Sorry bro, your sentence is a conjecture in itself.

Mike Lombardi came out long ago and said it was between Jones and Lance. When challenged, he doubled down on it. To date, the same line of reporting has only gotten stronger. This isn't conjecture or heresay, you have no idea who his source/s are. At the very least, he is willing to put his name and reputation on it.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Colin Cowherd: "I think the 49ers draft Mac Jones. I know John Lynch and Adam Peters and the scouting department want Trey Lance and are pushing back on Shanahan, but Shanahan is the star of the franchise and he wants Jones."

I have taken s**ts that could provide more credible sports analysis than Colin f**king Cowherd.

You are missing the point. Forget about Collin Cowherd, the point is there have already been leaks that both Lynch and Peters much prefer Trey Lance. In other words, the situation that we are currently faced with is a case of Kyle Shanahan vs pretty much the entire 49ers organization, especially the front office.

The only way this potential disaster can be averted is if Jed York could intervene and override Kyle Shanahan, is really as simple as that.

Or the leaks aren't real. Not a lot of reason to believe these so called "leaks".

There are wide spread reports on the leaks. This didn't just happen now, Lynch's leak happened weeks ago and Peters' more recently.

Mike Lombardi pounded the table long ago that it was between Jones and Lance. He even doubled down on it. To date, the reporting has only gotten stronger. As for Lynch and Peter's strong preferences, they had to get it on the record for obvious reasons. We shall find out soon enough.

Other than that, you can choose what to or not to believe.

None of that is a reason to believe the so called leaks are real. If all these experts and insiders know so much about what this team is thinking, why didn't they tell us we were sniffing around a trade up before we did?

They didn't know before but they know now? Not buying it.

Did I say the media knew about the trading up? No, I didn't.

But, circumstances have changed since as Kyle Shanahan and the front office have ended up on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Mac Jones. And if Shanahan really has the ultimate say, then it makes absolute perfect sense that either Lynch or Peters would leak it. If I were them I would leak it myself. Why would they do so? Simple, would you want your own reputation and career to be tainted by such a lame move in taking Mac Jones?!

Boy you really buy into fiction hard eh?

You have no proof it is fiction.