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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jed will care when it affects his pocket book.

Thats EXACTLY what i am hoping for. I dont buy that the "revolt" of the fanbase has no impact.
Make sure you let them know until the pick is in.
Jones would be the QB taken insde the top3 EVER with the lowest merch sales.
Usually you expect to have excitement in your franchise if you pick a top3 qb which clearly will be felt in jeds pocket.
If they go wrong - well...not so

Stupid stupid stupid. Niners picking jones will make fans stop watching the 49ers? So are we the dallas cowboys now? Just draft the flashiest fan approved player? They start winning the fans will come. Fickle bunch. Look at the warriors. Booed lacob when they traded monta. You can't buy warriors tickets for less than 200 now.

f**k the fans. Including me. Just win and everyone will have a jones jersey. Bunch of hypocrites.

Harsh, but true. The fans have no control over who we draft unless the team is dealing with a toxic or weak/scared owner who is more worried about people-pleasing than letting his football guys do their thing.

I trust our FO and coaches. I do like the majority of the QBs. I think we'll be OK.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jed will care when it affects his pocket book.

Thats EXACTLY what i am hoping for. I dont buy that the "revolt" of the fanbase has no impact.
Make sure you let them know until the pick is in.
Jones would be the QB taken insde the top3 EVER with the lowest merch sales.
Usually you expect to have excitement in your franchise if you pick a top3 qb which clearly will be felt in jeds pocket.
If they go wrong - well...not so

Stupid stupid stupid. Niners picking jones will make fans stop watching the 49ers? So are we the dallas cowboys now? Just draft the flashiest fan approved player? They start winning the fans will come. Fickle bunch. Look at the warriors. Booed lacob when they traded monta. You can't buy warriors tickets for less than 200 now.

f**k the fans. Including me. Just win and everyone will have a jones jersey. Bunch of hypocrites.

Agree 100% - Some of these fans are completely lost in their emotions.
Originally posted by gored49:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
I'll Lance over Jones but he's a very big gamble. He probably has the smallest resume ever drafted top 5.

Definitely a gamble but kyler Murray didn't have much more experience aside from a better division and he went 1st overall.

when people say Lance is a gamble I always look at the fact it is also a gamble to take the guy that most likely has the lowest ceiling, and passing on the guy with the highest ceiling who could be a superstar.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jed will care when it affects his pocket book.

Thats EXACTLY what i am hoping for. I dont buy that the "revolt" of the fanbase has no impact.
Make sure you let them know until the pick is in.
Jones would be the QB taken insde the top3 EVER with the lowest merch sales.
Usually you expect to have excitement in your franchise if you pick a top3 qb which clearly will be felt in jeds pocket.
If they go wrong - well...not so

Stupid stupid stupid. Niners picking jones will make fans stop watching the 49ers? So are we the dallas cowboys now? Just draft the flashiest fan approved player? They start winning the fans will come. Fickle bunch. Look at the warriors. Booed lacob when they traded monta. You can't buy warriors tickets for less than 200 now.

f**k the fans. Including me. Just win and everyone will have a jones jersey. Bunch of hypocrites.

Yeah, but when you lose because you drafted Mac, and Tr ey becomes a hall of fame for the Falcons or the Broncos, and Kyle gets fired and we go back to the early Alex Smith years than what? 🤔
Originally posted by hello49:
Originally posted by gored49:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
I'll Lance over Jones but he's a very big gamble. He probably has the smallest resume ever drafted top 5.

Definitely a gamble but kyler Murray didn't have much more experience aside from a better division and he went 1st overall.

when people say Lance is a gamble I always look at the fact it is also a gamble to take the guy that most likely has the lowest ceiling, and passing on the guy with the highest ceiling who could be a superstar.

Don't understand what part of completely unstoppable this knucklehead doesn't understand. Bizarre
Originally posted by NYniner85:
JTO thinks he's ready to play week 1

Phil Simms didn't say day 1, but he said Lance is far more pro ready than he's given credit for.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Stupid stupid stupid. Niners picking jones will make fans stop watching the 49ers? So are we the dallas cowboys now? Just draft the flashiest fan approved player? They start winning the fans will come. Fickle bunch. Look at the warriors. Booed lacob when they traded monta. You can't buy warriors tickets for less than 200 now.

f**k the fans. Including me. Just win and everyone will have a jones jersey. Bunch of hypocrites.

I'm just speaking for myself but I won't spend a dime if the pick is Jones...I'm not burning $1,000 to watch him play. Sorry my hard earned cash. I'll root for them all the same and if he turns into Brady fine.

you make the biggest move in franchise history and you're basically telling the fan base to f**k off lol
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 29, 2021 at 8:08 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Stupid stupid stupid. Niners picking jones will make fans stop watching the 49ers? So are we the dallas cowboys now? Just draft the flashiest fan approved player? They start winning the fans will come. Fickle bunch. Look at the warriors. Booed lacob when they traded monta. You can't buy warriors tickets for less than 200 now.

f**k the fans. Including me. Just win and everyone will have a jones jersey. Bunch of hypocrites.

I'm just speaking for myself but I won't spend a dime if the pick is Jones...I'm not burning $1,000 to watch him play. Sorry my hard earned cash. I'll root for them all the same and if he turns into Brady fine.

you make the biggest move in franchise history and you're basically telling the fan base to f**k off lol

I could argue blind faith is just as stupid. Freedom of choice and accountability is what makes things work. If we go Jones and its the same cookie butter b******t we had under JG while Fields and Lance are flashing elsewhere Jed and co can kiss my money goodbye too.

Again we're not making any guarantees here. We get the draft is a crapshoot, but what we gave up is massive and passing on a talent like Lance or Fields for Jones makes no damn sense.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Harsh, but true. The fans have no control over who we draft unless the team is dealing with a toxic or weak/scared owner who is more worried about people-pleasing than letting his football guys do their thing.

I trust our FO and coaches. I do like the majority of the QBs. I think we'll be OK.

Agreed, OTC...
  • pdc20
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by pdc20:
"Fan revolt"^^
Meanwhile Shanny drinks his coffee and could care less.

Jed will care when it affects his pocket book.

Jed is too happy to have Kyle as coach. You think Jed wants to have another Tomsula/Chip Kelly?
Besides why should Kyle and the front office care about the vox populi or the medias?
They should draft the QB based on their own evaluations.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jed will care when it affects his pocket book.

Thats EXACTLY what i am hoping for. I dont buy that the "revolt" of the fanbase has no impact.
Make sure you let them know until the pick is in.
Jones would be the QB taken insde the top3 EVER with the lowest merch sales.
Usually you expect to have excitement in your franchise if you pick a top3 qb which clearly will be felt in jeds pocket.
If they go wrong - well...not so

Stupid stupid stupid. Niners picking jones will make fans stop watching the 49ers? So are we the dallas cowboys now? Just draft the flashiest fan approved player? They start winning the fans will come. Fickle bunch. Look at the warriors. Booed lacob when they traded monta. You can't buy warriors tickets for less than 200 now.

f**k the fans. Including me. Just win and everyone will have a jones jersey. Bunch of hypocrites.

Harsh, but true. The fans have no control over who we draft unless the team is dealing with a toxic or weak/scared owner who is more worried about people-pleasing than letting his football guys do their thing.

I trust our FO and coaches. I do like the majority of the QBs. I think we'll be OK.

You can't just come on here last minute and make draft comments. We want your big board dammit.
  • Rascal
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Originally posted by FL9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
If he's Jimmy G level they will be fired. They won't be around to use our next available 1st rd pick in 2024.

If Kyle gets his 4 10+ losing season in 5 yrs, you can't justify keeping them

firing Lynch when everyone knows it's kyle running the show solves nothing. I love Kyle I think he's a top 5 HC. He's basically the GM too which is a problem IMO. Not a lot of HC in the league who do that are great at drafting too.

there's no more "faithful" or "trust the process" BS if they f**k this up...just isn't

Kyle Shanahan is 22-8 in the regular season with Jimmy Garoppolo as his starting quarterback. I'd like to think we have a good roster sans the quarterback position.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
If you draft a player at 3 after giving up 2 additional 1sts plus a 3rd and he turns out to be Kirk Cousins you should and would get fired. Mac better turn out to be Brees or Ryan if Kyle wants to keep his job.

Likewise, I could make the argument that Justin Fields better be DeShaun Watson if they draft him, Trey Lance - Josh Allen, and the 0.000000001% Zach Wilson is available at 3 he better pan out too.

Originally posted by socal1632:
A lesser Kirk Cousins is decent????????? WTF.

You're too emotional about this. I get it is major turning point for our franchise and this regime. There is a lot riding on this pick. I just hope for the best.

"Fan revolt" is real.

You are out of touch with what the fans are thinking right now. You forget this thing has been building and building ever since the trade-up.

I watched a Ronbo clip a couple of nights back just to gauge the current sentiments of the fan base, boy I had no idea so many fans are this p*ssed off with Shanahan as one by one phoned in to the show. You can go and listen to it for yourself.

Then, you add on top of that all the comments on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, there is zero doubt "fan revolt" is a real thing. It shouldn't be hard to understand, just look at the poll here on Webzone. 62% of the respondents don't want Mac Jones. What do you expect?

The other thing is Kyle Shanahan is impotent when it comes to talent evaluation. The record speaks for itself. People haven't forgotten about the Solomon Thomas pick, missing out on Mahomes, bringing in Hoyer, moving up in the draft to take Beathard, the Dante Pettis pick, the Joe Williams pick, etc. You won't believe it until you hear people recite all the screw-ups angrily as they phone in to tell Ronbo what they really think of Shanahan.

Even last night, I could sense the tension coming to a boil with one night to go before draft night. If Shanahan insists on taking Mac Jones, things are going to go south in a hurry.
Shanny designs great plays but it's like he's autistic. One road only. Blind to everything else. His piss poor talent evals speak for themselves. Kirk Cousins?? Seriously??? I watched him in college and he never stuck out.
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by FL9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
If he's Jimmy G level they will be fired. They won't be around to use our next available 1st rd pick in 2024.

If Kyle gets his 4 10+ losing season in 5 yrs, you can't justify keeping them

firing Lynch when everyone knows it's kyle running the show solves nothing. I love Kyle I think he's a top 5 HC. He's basically the GM too which is a problem IMO. Not a lot of HC in the league who do that are great at drafting too.

there's no more "faithful" or "trust the process" BS if they f**k this up...just isn't

Kyle Shanahan is 22-8 in the regular season with Jimmy Garoppolo as his starting quarterback. I'd like to think we have a good roster sans the quarterback position.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
If you draft a player at 3 after giving up 2 additional 1sts plus a 3rd and he turns out to be Kirk Cousins you should and would get fired. Mac better turn out to be Brees or Ryan if Kyle wants to keep his job.

Likewise, I could make the argument that Justin Fields better be DeShaun Watson if they draft him, Trey Lance - Josh Allen, and the 0.000000001% Zach Wilson is available at 3 he better pan out too.

Originally posted by socal1632:
A lesser Kirk Cousins is decent????????? WTF.

You're too emotional about this. I get it is major turning point for our franchise and this regime. There is a lot riding on this pick. I just hope for the best.

"Fan revolt" is real.

You are out of touch with what the fans are thinking right now. You forget this thing has been building and building ever since the trade-up.

I watched a Ronbo clip a couple of nights back just to gauge the current sentiments of the fan base, boy I had no idea so many fans are this p*ssed off with Shanahan as one by one phoned in to the show. You can go and listen to it for yourself.

Then, you add on top of that all the comments on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, there is zero doubt "fan revolt" is a real thing. It shouldn't be hard to understand, just look at the poll here on Webzone. 62% of the respondents don't want Mac Jones. What do you expect?

The other thing is Kyle Shanahan is impotent when it comes to talent evaluation. The record speaks for itself. People haven't forgotten about the Solomon Thomas pick, missing out on Mahomes, bringing in Hoyer, moving up in the draft to take Beathard, the Dante Pettis pick, the Joe Williams pick, etc. You won't believe it until you hear people recite all the screw-ups angrily as they phone in to tell Ronbo what they really think of Shanahan.

Even last night, I could sense the tension coming to a boil with one night to go before draft night. If Shanahan insists on taking Mac Jones, things are going to go south in a hurry.

Winning is the strongest disinfectant. You're not wrong about the power of fan sentiment, but if Mac is the pick and he performs and the team wins, everything will be copacetic. Fans will watch and come out just the same. Really, whoever the 49ers pick needs to outperform the other two guys or sentiment will turn.

If Mac is the pick, fans will boo and hiss and ticket sales will lag, but many fans will rationalize and hope and wait to see the product.
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