Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
So the hope is that Lance does a complete 180 like Allen did?

WTF are you talking about?
67% completion
28 TDs 0 INT
On target %: 78%
Catchable %: 84%

Those are MUCH better than Allen coming out of college. Trey doesn't need a 180, he just needs a little polish, just like every other QB in this draft.

Sorry but this guy scares me a lot.
Ton of upside but he has the lower floor of the top 5 at the moment.
His accuracy worries me.
If really they are all in on the big nuclear potential guy, just take Justin Fields. Fields has that superb deep ball.
And Mac Jones like Fields is accurate on deep throws and is a good decision taker. Really smart.
I hope if Trey is the pick, it´s Kyle decision. I don´t want to hear that in fact John and Adam convince Kyle to go that route.
I don´t want to hear that Kyle prefered Mac Jones. It has to be his decision.
That being said, I would lie if Trey Lance wasn´t an exciting pick.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

Yeah so you draft a noodle arm limited drunk with only 17 starts? Lol b******t.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

Yeah so you draft a noodle arm limited drunk with only 17 starts? Lol b******t.

Lmao I WANT them to draft Fields.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

Yeah so you draft a noodle arm limited drunk with only 17 starts? Lol b******t.

So you draft an unprovem kid with only 200 pass attempts? Clearly they want someone who is ready.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Ray Charles holds the record for passing touchdowns without an interception?

Lmao y'all don't have to tear down the other prospects to prop up your favorite.

Lance sees the field the worst of the top QBs but they all are special in that area imo.

It's not about tearing someone down, it's about bringing up real concerns about a prospect. Out of the three, Lance has the fewest passing attempts, is the least accurate, had the fewest snaps playing from behind, had the most rushing attempts per game, struggles the most with reading defenses and making timely throws.

Basically people are saying "he's got a huge arm, he's really fast and we've heard he's really smart so f**k it, he can figure out the rest!" If the 49ers draft him, for their sake, I hope those people are right.

Why is it so hard for people to admit that the reps that Lance had we're closer to Kyle's offense than any QB in the draft. Half the time when watching film breakdowns people kept saying it basically IS Kyle's offense or they don't have to imagine what it would look like cause NDSU is so similar. Unlike Lance, you have to do some imagination for Fields and Jones.

Kyle wants his QBs to get on the edges, create designed plays where the QB changes their throwing platform by swiveling their feet, carry out play fakes, check the ball down, call their own protections, read the defense and change the play at the line of scrimmage, all things Fields does not do as much or at all. Lance's feet aren't perfect but they're certainly much better than Fields and Wilson.

You can say "well every team runs pro concepts" but how isn't it a knock on Fields that he ran an offense that required him to hold onto the ball (good luck with that with MM) and made his plays deep down the field. That's not what this team is designed for currently.

It's a joke to claim that argument for Lance is that he's just big and fast and ignore the system he's played in, his work ethic, and so on. You don't have to do that to make the case for Fields over Lance but it's easier to do so I guess that's why people keep making similar arguments.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
What is this based off of? Allen was a two year starter at Wyoming playing in the exact same offense. The main difference is that Allen played with crap talent and NDSU without Lance, Jabril Cox and other starters lost to the transfer portal has gone 6-2 and in the playoffs once more.

Did you want Josh his last yr? s**t was no pretty. Who's all the amazing WRs getting drafted out of NDST?

You constantly s**t on Jones for having open receivers but ignore how Lance constantly had guys wide open? His competition was that bad.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

Yeah so you draft a noodle arm limited drunk with only 17 starts? Lol b******t.

Right (although I don't think the kid's a drunk lol). If you're going to spend an offseason going after QBs with big arms (Stafford, Rodgers, Watson), it doesn't make sense to turn around and draft a guy with an average-at-best arm.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

You draft who believe has the highest potential. Either way, who ever they choose will more than likely be the starter by year 2 at the latest.

Originally posted by IceMan1763:
WTF are you talking about?
67% completion
28 TDs 0 INT
On target %: 78%
Catchable %: 84%

Those are MUCH better than Allen coming out of college. Trey doesn't need a 180, he just needs a little polish, just like every other QB in this draft.

I don't care about the stats, I'm talking about the eye test. Allen was playing on a crap team with crap talent, Lance was playing on a team that went undefeated and won a championship without him and is now chasing another championship despite having lost Lance and a bunch of other talent to transfers or the draft.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by IceMan1763:
WTF are you talking about?
67% completion
28 TDs 0 INT
On target %: 78%
Catchable %: 84%

Those are MUCH better than Allen coming out of college. Trey doesn't need a 180, he just needs a little polish, just like every other QB in this draft.

I don't care about the stats, I'm talking about the eye test. Allen was playing on a crap team with crap talent, Lance was playing on a team that went undefeated and won a championship without him and is now chasing another championship despite having lost Lance and a bunch of other talent to transfers or the draft.

How is it Lance's fault that his team did well without him? Do you see Alabama going into the tank now that Jones left?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Only he's doesn't need 2/3 yrs that's a straight up b******t take. Kid is more pro-ready then Josh Allen and Mahomes.

if he stayed a yr he would be the #1 pick in 2022...SF gets him a yr early and your boy Jimmy gets one last shot in SF to build up trade stock and a new contract for himself. Win/win

That is literally what every expert's take is.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
How is it Lance's fault that his team did well without him? Do you see Alabama going into the tank now that Jones left?

It's not his fault but you can't just post stats from Allen without any context. He played on far worse, far more talent poor teams. He still had two seasons as a starter in the same offense as Lance.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

You draft who believe has the highest potential. Either way, who ever they choose will more than likely be the starter by year 2 at the latest.

Cool, then they should have no problem drafting Fields

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You try to trade for Aaron Rodgers and Watson but you draft a kid whos not old enough to drink, that needs to sit a year or 2 before even being considered a top QB on any NFL team let alone under Shanahan when Justin Fields is available? Lol b******t

You draft who believe has the highest potential. Either way, who ever they choose will more than likely be the starter by year 2 at the latest.

Cool, then they should have no problem drafting Fields

We'll be In good hands with either one Imo.