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Trey Lance QB NDSU

Trey Lance QB NDSU

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
According to Jack Hammer, Lance has trouble throwing to a wr when there's someone in his line of sight between him and that WR. He also appears to decide where he's going with the ball presnap and then just tries to take off if it's not there.

He also has a stiff lower body when throwing, leading to erratic deep accuracy.

The little I've watched of him suggests Mr Hammer is right.

No way do I pick a mobile Jimmy at 12.

Dude f**k Jack Hammer lol that guy is a trash....sorry if that's you but still, there's nothing he says that leads me to believe he's a knowledgeable football mind.

His footwork is not even remotely close to Jimmy's. Ever think that "appearing" to go with the ball pre-snap is the play call? People were saying the same s**t about Herbert last yr. Mahomes half reads at Texas Tech as well....Scheme that they play in doesn't always define who they are.

nothing stiff about his throwing motion IMO


calls all the protections


Here's you ball placement


not his first read


It's not me, and at this point I haven't done my QB binge watching yet, but so far I have not been particularly impressed with Lance.

For one, he's not particularly consistent with his accuracy. Jimmy can drop the occasional dime too. But how often is he off the mark? Two, he DOES seem to do the "one-read" thing way too much.

JTO wasn't too impressed with him either (pointed out some good things, but also inconsistent accuracy and bad field vision), and I'd take his analysis over anyone's.

But ultimately, we're not discussing if he might become a good QB some day. We're discussing if he's better than Fields as a prospect. Which to me is laughable.

You do stuff like this a lot, say something is laughable and then admit you haven't done the research. Maybe take it down a notch?
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
According to Jack Hammer, Lance has trouble throwing to a wr when there's someone in his line of sight between him and that WR. He also appears to decide where he's going with the ball presnap and then just tries to take off if it's not there.

He also has a stiff lower body when throwing, leading to erratic deep accuracy.

The little I've watched of him suggests Mr Hammer is right.

No way do I pick a mobile Jimmy at 12.

Dude f**k Jack Hammer lol that guy is a trash....sorry if that's you but still, there's nothing he says that leads me to believe he's a knowledgeable football mind.

His footwork is not even remotely close to Jimmy's. Ever think that "appearing" to go with the ball pre-snap is the play call? People were saying the same s**t about Herbert last yr. Mahomes half reads at Texas Tech as well....Scheme that they play in doesn't always define who they are.

nothing stiff about his throwing motion IMO


calls all the protections


Here's you ball placement


not his first read


It's not me, and at this point I haven't done my QB binge watching yet, but so far I have not been particularly impressed with Lance.

For one, he's not particularly consistent with his accuracy. Jimmy can drop the occasional dime too. But how often is he off the mark? Two, he DOES seem to do the "one-read" thing way too much.

JTO wasn't too impressed with him either (pointed out some good things, but also inconsistent accuracy and bad field vision), and I'd take his analysis over anyone's.

But ultimately, we're not discussing if he might become a good QB some day. We're discussing if he's better than Fields as a prospect. Which to me is laughable.

You do stuff like this a lot, say something is laughable and then admit you haven't done the research. Maybe take it down a notch?

By "binge watching" I mean hours and hours. I've watched through his most recent game and AM NOT impressed. At least not as much as I am with Justin Fields. What is laughable is saying Trey Lance is out of the box better than Fields. I don't anticipate that opinion changing.

First I watched highlights. Then I was like, wow, he's great. Then I watched his last game. Then I was like, "Why the hell is he missing so many throws and reads?"
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Feb 4, 2021 at 8:00 AM ]
So yeah, keep in mind I'm not saying Lance won't be good. I'm saying so far, there's no way in the world he should be picked before Fields, and given his lack of experience, he shouldn't be picked at 12 either. And before people say I claim he sucks, I'm saying he should be picked somewhere in the twenties, late teens at best.

So if the 49ers took him, it should be (1) because Lawrence, Wilson and Fields aren't on available, and (2) after a trade down.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Feb 4, 2021 at 8:06 AM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
It's not me, and at this point I haven't done my QB binge watching yet, but so far I have not been particularly impressed with Lance.

For one, he's not particularly consistent with his accuracy. Jimmy can drop the occasional dime too. But how often is he off the mark? Two, he DOES seem to do the "one-read" thing way too much.

JTO wasn't too impressed with him either (pointed out some good things, but also inconsistent accuracy and bad field vision), and I'd take his analysis over anyone's.

But ultimately, we're not discussing if he might become a good QB some day. We're discussing if he's better than Fields as a prospect. Which to me is laughable.

I'm not debating fields vs Lance. You are. I like Fields plenty. All of these QBs throw to their 1st reads a ton.

Jack hammer can S a D his Twitter comments are click bait crap.

give me traits, upside, and drive with a good coaching staff to develop plus a good roster to put around a young QB
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
By "binge watching" I mean hours and hours. I've watched through his most recent game and AM NOT impressed. At least not as much as I am with Justin Fields. What is laughable is saying Trey Lance is out of the box better than Fields. I don't anticipate that opinion changing.

First I watched highlights. Then I was like, wow, he's great. Then I watched his last game. Then I was like, "Why the hell is he missing so many throws and reads?"

Who gives a crap about a one game season with Covid restrictions.

I hope GMs think like that and he drops right into the lap of Shanahan. Those teams will regret it end of the day.
So one of you who thinks he's better than Fields want to explain why he missed so many throws against UCA? This is the one full game cutup showing all his plays I've watched in its entirety. There are WAY too many missed throws.

And don't go saying "But it was his only game, he was rusty," because every QB has to play his first game of the year.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
By "binge watching" I mean hours and hours. I've watched through his most recent game and AM NOT impressed. At least not as much as I am with Justin Fields. What is laughable is saying Trey Lance is out of the box better than Fields. I don't anticipate that opinion changing.

First I watched highlights. Then I was like, wow, he's great. Then I watched his last game. Then I was like, "Why the hell is he missing so many throws and reads?"

Who gives a crap about a one game season with Covid restrictions.

I hope GMs think like that and he drops right into the lap of Shanahan. Those teams will regret it end of the day.

Me, because it's the most recent one, and he only has 18 games under his belt. That's a lot of missed throws.

I have more to watch. I'm not saying my opinion is final, but this sticks out really badly to me. Got more to watch, but so far, there's no way I'm picking him over Fields.
Im old enough to remember some of the weaknesses of Watson coming out of college

  • Can be inaccurate
  • Poor ball placement
  • Ball security; throws too many interceptions
  • Field vision
  • Working through progressions
  • Will need to learn working under center
  • Will need to learn working a NFL huddle
  • Will need to improve footwork
  • Prone to throwing too high
  • Can stare down his primary read
  • Needs development for a pro-style offense
  • College offense inflated his stats
  • College offense ran lot of plays he won't run in the NFL
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 4, 2021 at 8:26 AM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Me, because it's the most recent one, and he only has 18 games under his belt. That's a lot of missed throws.

I have more to watch. I'm not saying my opinion is final, but this sticks out really badly to me. Got more to watch, but so far, there's no way I'm picking him over Fields.

One game after not playing for a yr? Limited practices no idea of a season is gonna happen lol. Stop it. You must have been completely done with Lawrence when he sucked a big dick at the beginning of last yr.

you sure sounded like you opinion was final one page age based off some dude named Jack hammer and watching some ridiculous one game season.

look everyone has an opinion and he's a polarizing prospect, but it doesn't sound like you're based your stance off much.

FWIW fields last game wasn't very good?
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Feb 4, 2021 at 8:35 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Bruh this mock draft is infuriating. Jamarr Chase not being the first receiver taken is strike one. The Bengals passing up two legit tackles for a TE is strike 2. And Justin Fields falling to 15 is Lance you're a f**king stupid f**king moron

Im not even going to click on the mock draft link after reading this.

Yeah better not, Your boy Jones wasn't even in the 1st rd

Lance said in this mock this is what he thinks teams will do, not what he would do.

Blasphemy.

And every year, Lance's mocks are always filled with "insane" selections picks for teams just to get the masses talking.
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Blasphemy.

And every year, Lance's mocks are always filled with "insane" selections picks for teams just to get the masses talking.

He's definitely got people talking lol
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Blasphemy.

And every year, Lance's mocks are always filled with "insane" selections picks for teams just to get the masses talking.

He's definitely got people talking lol

Dammit, hes succeeded again
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Blasphemy.

And every year, Lance's mocks are always filled with "insane" selections picks for teams just to get the masses talking.

He's definitely got people talking lol

Dammit, hes succeeded again

It's the new "journalism". Instead of being correct they aim to get traffic for ad revenue. Can't hate the hustle I just hate the integrity
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Blasphemy.

And every year, Lance's mocks are always filled with "insane" selections picks for teams just to get the masses talking.

His mocks are based on what he's hearing
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